luckyduck Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 I recently purchased a Sony DVP-NC800H CD player to work with my Pioneer VSX-517 receiver. My goal is to supply my Fortes with at least 100 watts each. I think this would improve the bass response, and even though the receiver is rated at 110 watts per ch., I know that is not what I'm getting. Can I add a good quality integrated two ch. amp and run the CD player through it, and keep the Pioneer as my tuner? If it were up to me, I would sell the Pioneer and just stick with an amp and CD player, but my wife enjoys listening to the radio through out the day, and she's going to go nuts if I tell her we need a seperate tuner, seperate pre-amp, and amplifier. Thanks for any suggestions! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS Button Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 I recently purchased a Sony DVP-NC800H CD player to work with my Pioneer VSX-517 receiver. My goal is to supply my Fortes with at least 100 watts each. I think this would improve the bass response, and even though the receiver is rated at 110 watts per ch., I know that is not what I'm getting. Can I add a good quality integrated two ch. amp and run the CD player through it, and keep the Pioneer as my tuner? If it were up to me, I would sell the Pioneer and just stick with an amp and CD player, but my wife enjoys listening to the radio through out the day, and she's going to go nuts if I tell her we need a seperate tuner, seperate pre-amp, and amplifier. Thanks for any suggestions! Get a preamp/tuner + amp. Adcom, Parasound and others Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesV Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 Your Pioneer receiver does not have Pre-Outs so you can't add an external amp. You will have to look for another receiver that has them or as it was mentioned go separates. James Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 want bass? add a sub, even a cheap one will make a big difference Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvel Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 want bass? Good grief, Colin, he has Fortes. I don't even want a sub with my LaScalas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schu Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 so then with pre outs it goes... player, integrated input, integrated preout to external amp input, then speakers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvel Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 so then with pre outs it goes... player, integrated input, integrated preout to external amp input, then speakers? That would be correct. You would just ignore the power amp in the integrated. You shouldn't need a load placed on the integrated's outputs, it no signal is being fed to it. However, you should check the manual that comes with any piece of gear to see what the manufacturer says. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdm56 Posted May 4, 2009 Share Posted May 4, 2009 I don't know how loud you need to go, but I would think a pair of Fortes, considering their high sensitivity, would have plenty of power available from your Pioneer receiver. True, it probably can't deliver it's rated power to seven or even five channels simultaneously, but I bet it can get dangerously close into two channels. Besides, you'll have a hard time finding an "affordable" integrated amp that can deliver substantially more power into an 8 Ohm load. I would suggest either a powered sub to suppliment your bass, or if your receiver and your Fortes are equipped for it, a separate power amp to bi-amp your speakers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
middlecreekguy Posted May 4, 2009 Share Posted May 4, 2009 LaScalas with no sub? A man after my heart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
efzauner Posted May 10, 2009 Share Posted May 10, 2009 if your receiver has tape outs. .you can use those as inputs to the integrated amp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Posted May 10, 2009 Share Posted May 10, 2009 even my Khorns need a sub woofer to add power to the low end, especially for movies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russ69 Posted May 10, 2009 Share Posted May 10, 2009 If you want some real punch you'll need a amp with a couple of hundred watts per. A big brute amp will help the bottom end even at low levels. A seperate amp is the way to go. Thanx, Russ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
middlecreekguy Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 Colin, I can see where one might need a sub for movies even with the mighty Khorns, but for music too? Of course this is a matter of taste. To each his own. But I'm betting you're using them in a large room. High ceiling? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckyduck Posted May 30, 2009 Author Share Posted May 30, 2009 Thank you very much for all of the replys! I've added a JBL powered subwoofer to the mix, and it has really helped round things out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artto Posted May 30, 2009 Share Posted May 30, 2009 even my Khorns need a sub woofer to add power to the low end, especially for movies Colin, that's because your room sucks. I'm only down 9dB at 20Hz. Most subs can't even touch that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artto Posted May 30, 2009 Share Posted May 30, 2009 Colin, I can see where one might need a sub for movies even with the mighty Khorns, but for music too? Of course this is a matter of taste. To each his own. But I'm betting you're using them in a large room. High ceiling? It's not necessarily the "large room", nor "high ceilings" ~ both of which can be, and usually are a great asset. It's the room proportions, in concert with the room geometry, and of course it's acoustical treatments ~ including the contents that are affecting the production of standing waves, which in turn cause bass attenuation, reinforcement, or cancellation at certain (predictable) frequencies. I guess I can understand the sub with movies, which in general have exaggerated sound tracks, but with any well recorded music, it's simply not necessary in my situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWL Posted May 31, 2009 Share Posted May 31, 2009 with any well recorded music Well recorded music......what's that? Gotta get me some of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just_Strummin Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 Get an Emotiva amp. If you're lucky, your receiver has pre-outs. Otherwise, you'll need a pre-amp too. At that point, start from scratch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. RF62 Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 again, what J.S. said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willland Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 If you are using this setup as a 2 channel system, vintage Marantz is the way to go IMHO. My Marantz 2252b took my Forte's to another level. If that does not work for you, I have a 1986 Luxman R-115 stereo receiver(70w/ch) with a killer tuner for sale. Not quite the Marantz but better than most modern 2 channel receivers. 70 watts twenty years ago is give or take 100 watts today. Send me a PM if interested. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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