ZAKO Posted May 2, 2010 Share Posted May 2, 2010 OK, I've been dieing to ask this: Marty, are you REALLY a painter? And where did you get your degree? Must be a helluva program... Dave You dont need a degree to be a painter,,,just a bucket of paint and a big brush. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fini Posted May 2, 2010 Share Posted May 2, 2010 For those interested in delving deeper, I have white papers dealing with burn-in for Sunday mornings after going to a Mexican restaurant Saturday night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fini Posted May 2, 2010 Share Posted May 2, 2010 You dont need a degree to be a painter,,,just a bucket of paint and a big brush. No, but you need a PhD to become a fence builder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators dtel Posted May 2, 2010 Moderators Share Posted May 2, 2010 Question [6] What happens if you turn a cable around (end for end) after "burn in", or for heavens sake halfway through "burn in" ? Is it more balanced, ruined, edgy sounding for life, should we rotate our cables every 5000 songs. Or just run some pink or white noise through them to balance them back out every 6 months ? Does breaking them in with white noise make the range of frequency they cover greater ? Just wondering Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer Posted May 2, 2010 Share Posted May 2, 2010 Whatever you do never run the brown note through them, because then they will sound like crap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylanl Posted May 2, 2010 Author Share Posted May 2, 2010 For those interested in delving deeper, I have white papers dealing with burn-in for Sunday mornings after going to a Mexican restaurant Saturday night. That's more like burn out! I almost lost an O ring once that way when stuck on the Pittsburgh trolley after a long night out. Local Mexican restaurant called Jose and Toni's gave me the worst case of Jose hole as it has been referred to ever since. I used to ride the train to work daily, but this morning was going to be different than any another. It started with a small stomach growl, like the Mexican food was saying adiós your done. I played as if it was nothing, sure, I could handle it, I've been here before I told myself. Well the birth pangs lead to one after the next until there was no end in sight. I pinched so hard you could have put nickels into that slot and had them come back as quarters. I stood up, pulled the emergency stop cord on the train and told the conductor if he did not stop the train immediately he would have a tragedy on his hands. He exclaimed "Dude, can you hold it until the next stop"? " I'll floor it!" - HE DID!- I never knew a trolley could move like that. Needless to say, he spared all 60+ on the train. Getting off the story get's even better. No bathroom no nothing.... .....but 20 more passengers boarding and a steep inclining hillside. Well, 4 strides into ascending that hill I started to lose it by the 5 stride the grip of that Mexican dinner stopped me dead in my tracks. As the trolley pulled away I know there was a sigh of relief for the conductor and the unsuspecting travelers. As I remember it, the sun was shinning but all if not most on the trolley would agree that they witnessed a Full Moon on Monday at 8:15AM! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clipped and Shorn Posted May 4, 2010 Share Posted May 4, 2010 Why what? Indeed. Please pmail me the name of your supplier...must be really good stuff. Standard Boilerplate: That's a joke, no offense, etc, etc. Dave Oh, Dave, no offense taken. I just woke up from that trip....... thanks for the thumbs up. What were we talking about...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallette Posted May 4, 2010 Share Posted May 4, 2010 Why what? Indeed. Please pmail me the name of your supplier...must be really good stuff. Standard Boilerplate: That's a joke, no offense, etc, etc. Dave Oh, Dave, no offense taken. I just woke up from that trip....... thanks for the thumbs up. What were we talking about...? I believe it was two or more examples of the undistributed middle not supported by available research. Coulda been cookies... Yeah, it was cookies. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clipped and Shorn Posted May 4, 2010 Share Posted May 4, 2010 Why what? Indeed. Please pmail me the name of your supplier...must be really good stuff. Standard Boilerplate: That's a joke, no offense, etc, etc. Dave Oh, Dave, no offense taken. I just woke up from that trip....... thanks for the thumbs up. What were we talking about...? I believe it was two or more examples of the undistributed middle not supported by available research. Coulda been cookies... Yeah, it was cookies. Dave As time passes, my stereo sounds better to me. Burn-in takes time passing. Therefore Burn-in makes my stereo sound better to me. hmmmmm... it depends what you put in those cookies, good idea to make one batch "with" and one batch "without" just in case you cannot keep yourself from eating a lot of cookies. --Odd Planner Chips Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebes Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 Still burned up about how much money is wasted on cables? I know I am. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators dtel Posted January 10, 2012 Moderators Share Posted January 10, 2012 Still burned up about how much money is wasted on cables? I know I am. Your right, thinking maby there was something to all of this I took my cables outside to burn them in and now all the insulation is gone. I have two choices now, replace them or try the little wire elevators to lift them off the floor and keep them separated so they don't short out. It never ends Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sputnik Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 Some will say it's the dielectric that is being conditioned, because wire is wire, comparing apples to apples. Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong!!!!!!!!!!!! It's not the dielectric that's being conditioned, but the dialectic, the conversation, that is being ignored. As part of that dialectic, I will posit that cheap speaker wire performs equally well as high highfalutin speaker wire, but costs a lot less. It is possible that a manufacturer can screw things up to the point that speaker wire will sound worse, but it can never, ever, sound any better. Sometimes, however, I eschew dialectic discourse for intuitive reasoning. When I'm in that state, I would agree with the need for a break in time. I would propose that if you spend 10 hours running Marvin Gaye's "I Heard It Through The Grapevine" your cables will have a funky soulfull groove added to them that will stand you in good stead in the coming years. Thebes you completely ignored apples in your reply. Apples are apples right? No of course they aren't. Grannie Smiths are way different from Golden Delicious, but neither require burn in, unless you are making a pie. Then there are those who swear by a combination of the two, or purists who insist on using only Jonathans. But comparing same variety apples carmelization is preferred to burn in if you have to get technical. Just as with wire in aircraft applications, fresher is better. I've been binging on Honeycrisp apples lately. Expensive buggers but I can't stop myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest " " Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 burn in allows the electrolytic insulation to properly charge, like a capaciter, so, if I use a variac to power up, shouldn't need any burin in time???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 Easy answer to an old thread, if you have a set thats to the point where burning in cables is the final step in a perfect system, you already have one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groomlakearea51 Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 I still say: http://www.roger-russell.com/wire/wire.htm pretty much has this whole thing nailed down..... Although I like the Variac thingy!!! LOL!!!!! [H] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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