ZAKO Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 Like ive mentioned before,,The 402 and Jube are but an unfinished product, shoved into the Pro cimema division,,,The Hobbiest Klipsch members have pulled it into the Two way home unit,,With many variations Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris A Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 ...for $24,000 a pair the JBL M2´s should sound pretty good, hard to compare them in any way with Klipsch offerings...I still feel a fair amount of guilt for the TAD TD-4002s that I acquired 4 years ago--at about a tenth of that price. (They do sound good, however.)I believe that the K-402 horn is worthy of its own thread regardless of the differing opinions: there isn't another horn that I've heard that sounds as natural and as big at the same same time regardless of 2" full-range compression driver used, including the now-depreciated K-69-A. To my ears, it's still amazing. It easily blows away anything else that I've heard. Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAKO Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 You should not feel any guilt,,,for getting a good price on a TAD,,But should be commended,,,Thats what this hobby is about,,Tweeking our systems at any cost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark1101 Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 Like ive mentioned before,,The 402 and Jube are but an unfinished product, shoved into the Pro cimema division,,,The Hobbiest Klipsch members have pulled it into the Two way home unit,,With many variations When is a product finished? Klipsch still updates the Heritage line. You are right about the hobbiest pulling the Jub into the home.........some of us pulled the MCM into the home too. More people keep doing these things because they found these speakers can sound better than Klipsch's other speakers. Yeah, they take a little skill to run correctly, but the return is great. I agree that the K402 is the best horn Klipsch has ever made to date. The driver that you use may be based on your budget. But you will still get results with a K69 that eclipse the other speakers in the Klipsch line up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAKO Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 Yes ,,,Updating the Heritage line is wise,,Or the product will die,,PWK new this, And his baby (Khorn) matured,,,Also introducing other horn designs,,I hope the 510 and 402 will not be the last,,,Driver design is improving,,in a positive direction,,JBL driver 456 and D2.,,,Woofer designs are improving too, With differential dual voicecoil designs,, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators dtel Posted April 17, 2013 Moderators Share Posted April 17, 2013 The driver that you use may be based on your budget. But you will still get results with a K69 that eclipse the other speakers in the Klipsch line up. Positively I have compared them to almost every mid and larger horn from klipsch in my own room, not even close and that is with the much cheaper K69 driver. Great design, Thanks Roy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deang Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 Like ive mentioned before,,The 402 and Jube are but an unfinished product, shoved into the Pro cimema division,,,The Hobbiest Klipsch members have pulled it into the Two way home unit,,With many variations Here we go again. Who wants to hold his arms back so I can get a clear shot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebse2a3 Posted April 17, 2013 Author Share Posted April 17, 2013 Like ive mentioned before,,The 402 and Jube are but an unfinished product, shoved into the Pro cimema division,,,The Hobbiest Klipsch members have pulled it into the Two way home unit,,With many variations Here we go again. Who wants to hold his arms back so I can get a clear shot? Dean...this Fact Sheet was to help anyone that has an interest in the K402 and wants reliable information from the designer. I suggest we all try not to feed into the non-sense. mike tn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebse2a3 Posted April 17, 2013 Author Share Posted April 17, 2013 However, none of this has anything to do with this thread other than to say there have been several new drivers intorduced since Roy designed the K402 horn and since Klipsch has sold systems with K69 and 1132 and 1133. This is a very good thing! In fact I have a couple of pairs of K402s and have been experimenting with some of these different drivers, and have a couple more to try. It's exciting that there are more choices now as time has gone on. Mike, thanks for posting this info. It answers a few questions about why someone might prefer the sound of a K402 over the older exponential horns or even a pure tractrix or conical horn. Exactly Mark...it's important that people understand that the K402 is a very neutral design compared to most horns and that means it will allow any driver to give it's best performance IMHO. Thanks, mike tn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornman Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 Good Stuff", thanks Mike & Roy. The technical description is almost as expressive as is the sound out of the K402. [Y][Y] Cornman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rigma Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 Like ive mentioned before,,The 402 and Jube are but an unfinished product, shoved into the Pro cimema division,,,The Hobbiest Klipsch members have pulled it into the Two way home unit,,With many variations Moron speaks again!! rigma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deang Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 (edited) Yes Mike, agreed. Edited December 7, 2013 by DeanG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrWho Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 Roy is a nerd, haha. I always enjoy hearing his take on things - thanks for working on this Mike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebse2a3 Posted December 7, 2013 Author Share Posted December 7, 2013 Roy is a nerd, haha. I always enjoy hearing his take on things - thanks for working on this Mike. I thought it was very important that people interested in these systems be able to read the facts in Roy's own words. miketn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mustang guy Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 Great information. Now more than ever, I want to find three K-402's to mate with the KPT-904-LF's I have! My poor 904's are shelved. Well... actually floored since my shelves can't hold them. It would be very nice to see some errata in this thread of this horn matched with different drivers like the K69A, the K1132, the JBL offerings, and any other which folks here are using or have tried and have measurements for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrestonTom Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 Like ive mentioned before,,The 402 and Jube are but an unfinished product, shoved into the Pro cimema division,,,The Hobbiest Klipsch members have pulled it into the Two way home unit,,With many variations Here we go again. Who wants to hold his arms back so I can get a clear shot? Dean...this Fact Sheet was to help anyone that has an interest in the K402 and wants reliable information from the designer. I suggest we all try not to feed into the non-sense. mike tn Mike, I was thinking that wouldn't it be nice if there was a sticky thread or locked thread that would only have the Jubilee interview and specs on it. This could substitute for the lack of advertising info and spec sheet for the "home" version of the Jubilee. It would be a valuable (and easy to find) source of info for those wanting to drink the kool aid. I am not sure what should go into it. Certainly the above interview and specs for the K-510 and K-402 versions, dimensions, and crossover setup. By keeping the thread locked, then all the nonsense and contentiousness could be eliminated. I am thinking about what unfortunately happened when a fact sheet was posted for the bass bin and all heck broke loose with a flood of misinformation. What are your thoughts and do you think the moderators might allow this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deang Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 That's a really good idea Tom. I have a way to do that -- could you and Mike please PM me your email addresses so I can pitch it to you. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebse2a3 Posted December 7, 2013 Author Share Posted December 7, 2013 Tom it might be worth looking into. Dean PM sent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 I like the way you guys think on this, I don't want to flood this thread with ideas. But while your at it, what if someone with Jubs had taken some plots or measurements in their environment emailed them to the mod to have them applied to the sticky, that way folks who question how them might respond with certain room criteria would get a good Idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrestonTom Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 Tom it might be worth looking into. Dean PM sent I sent a PM to the both of you. My guess is that most of the info and data are already out there so this should be straight forward (famous last words ...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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