USNRET Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 Always ensure you use the right tool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaddeus Smith Posted November 22, 2014 Author Share Posted November 22, 2014 i need help thinking this through. we don't have a fireplace, but I'm going to build a faux mantle on a wall to serve as a shelf year round + stockings in december. pretty much following this process, but don't have sufficient studs for 3 lag bolts to grip: http://binkiesandbriefcases.com/build-floating-fireplace-mantle/ if I make three mount points in the 4x4, but go all the way through a wall and through a 2x4 with washers/nuts to effectively sandwich the wall, will I be secure enough? the other side of the wall is inside my media closet so the back end aesthetics aren't a concern. I just want to make sure I'm thinking this through properly before I start punch holes in the wall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USNRET Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 Investigate both wooden and metal French cleats attached to the studs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaddeus Smith Posted November 22, 2014 Author Share Posted November 22, 2014 the wall is only 6ft wide with studs roughly 8-24" from each edge. I'm only planning to make the 4x4 4ft wide with about 4 inches of overhang with the top board. so i just don't have enough studs towards the middle of the wall for getting a good secure mount point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USNRET Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 (edited) If you have access behind the wall tack some plywood across the studs and use long machine bolts with large area (fender / skin) washers under the nuts to attach cleat. Or use two "J" hooks per stud, one on each side to attach mantle or cleat. http://www.grainger.com/category/ecatalog/N-1z0drpi Trying to not compromise the studs integrity by boring all the way thru. Edited November 22, 2014 by USNRET Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaddeus Smith Posted November 22, 2014 Author Share Posted November 22, 2014 k. back to the drawing board Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich_Guy Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 Always ensure you use the right tool I leave my tool attached so it's never confused with others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USNRET Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 (edited) If you have access behind the wall tack some plywood across the studs and use long machine bolts with large area (fender / skin) washers under the nuts to attach cleat. Or use two "J" hooks per stud, one on each side to attach mantle or cleat. http://www.grainger.com/category/ecatalog/N-1z0drpi Trying to not compromise the studs integrity by boring all the way thru. I know what I want to describe but having a had time doing so. Take a flat steel strap and form a U shape for around the stud but it'll have four 90* bends so that you have a leg on each side to drill holes thru to put the bolts thru. Edited November 22, 2014 by USNRET Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaddeus Smith Posted November 22, 2014 Author Share Posted November 22, 2014 I don't have access to the raw side. The wall is finished out on both sides, but the other side of the wall is in a closet so I was just going to run three bolts through the drywall with the 4x4 post and a 2x4 effectively sandwiching the wall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaddeus Smith Posted November 22, 2014 Author Share Posted November 22, 2014 *raw studs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USNRET Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 I don't have access to the raw side. The wall is finished out on both sides, but the other side of the wall is in a closet so I was just going to run three bolts through the drywall with the 4x4 post and a 2x4 effectively sandwiching the wall. Got it, should work. Could you use a shelf on the interior as well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaddeus Smith Posted November 22, 2014 Author Share Posted November 22, 2014 Not really. Are you thinking I should 4x4 on both sides? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USNRET Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 Not really. Are you thinking I should 4x4 on both sides? No, I was thinking if you used a shelf on the inside as well you could sandwich the wall with cleats on both sides. If you don't want a shelf there then do your thing as described. BTW, I was recently turned on to french cleats and they are handy as all get out. I have my acoustic panels hung with them now instead of drywall anchors and screws to hang them on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich_Guy Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 The sandwich should be pretty strong, maybe put a couple lag bolts through the 2x4 into the studs as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USNRET Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 Any one have experience making bacon bowls? I just learned of this. I want a BLT that you can eat like an ice cream cone. I am thinking a cocktail shaker as the 'shaping' device and fill with the LT of a BLT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paducah Home Theater Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 Some folks here might not know that light bulbs are really dark absorbers. You use the valve on the wall to open them, they absorb dark and when full you have to replace them with an empty one. The sun comes here late in the day to dump the darkness that it collected over THERE >>>>> Does that make speakers "silence absorbers"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 I don't have access to the raw side. The wall is finished out on both sides, but the other side of the wall is in a closet so I was just going to run three bolts through the drywall with the 4x4 post and a 2x4 effectively sandwiching the wall. Are you going to be putting a shelf in the closet side as well? If not, that will look like $hit on a white chicken. Why not just open the closet wall up, install proper bracing and patch the drywall back? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaddeus Smith Posted November 25, 2014 Author Share Posted November 25, 2014 I love you Carl. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 (edited) Lemmie guess. When your truck has an oil leak, you clean it off and put a big blob of RTV on it and call it a day, right? Edited for emoticon. Didn't want to appear too snarky to the snarky one. Edited November 25, 2014 by CECAA850 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators dtel Posted November 25, 2014 Moderators Share Posted November 25, 2014 Carl, you know Thad, is he really that snarky or is it just to make up for being surrounded by females all the time ? I know how the last part feels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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