artto Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 10 minutes ago, Emile said: OK; just had to post this. Got a pair of CF-3's (version 2) a couple of weeks ago ... just played Itzhak Perlman;s Paganini's 1st Violin concerto ... haha; at 100dB's ... absolutely awesome! The CF-3's replaced a pair of Forte's ... no comparison Which recording version of this did you listen to? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emile Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 3 minutes ago, artto said: Which recording version of this did you listen to? EMI, 1972, CDC 7 471022 (??), Royal Philharmonic Orchestra, Lawrence Foster director. Think it is a pretty good recording Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artto Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 Excellent. Thank You! Tidal has this. I'll give it a listen. But I have to tell ya, 100dB (C weighted I hope) on a violin concerto seems, a little loud to me, which is why I'd like to give it a listen. For the most part I don't violins either. But since it's Itzhak I have to cut it some slack as he is one of a handful of violinists that I can easily tolerate and truly appreciate. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emile Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 1 hour ago, artto said: 100dB (C weighted I hope) on a violin concerto seems, a little loud to me OK; having another glass of vino ... and will turn it up a bit Playing Handel's Messiah ( Robert Shaw, Atlanta Symphony, TELARC). AWESOME Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emile Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 OK; switched to Santana's "Shaman." Great sound These CF-3's sound as good (in a small room) as my 904's (in a bigger room). 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shiva Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 25 minutes ago, Emile said: OK; switched to Santana's "Shaman." Great sound These CF-3's sound as good (in a small room) as my 904's (in a bigger room). So, are you trying to say, the Epics kind of hit above their price point? 😀 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emile Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 1 minute ago, Shiva said: the Epics kind of hit above their price point? YES ... think they are AWESOME 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oicu812 Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 1 minute ago, Emile said: YES ... think they are AWESOME Yes. Yes they are. I’m ecstatic over mine! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvu80 Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 18 minutes ago, Shiva said: So, are you trying to say, the Epics kind of hit above their price point? 😀 Not sure about that. They were about $2400 new, the compression driver had a neo magnet and replacements were about $750. These were the top of the 2-ways for the three years they were produced starting in 1994. IMO adding a musical sub turns these into a 3-way speaker system and they are as good as I've ever heard, and I've owned LS and Khorns. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shiva Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 Just now, wvu80 said: Not sure about that. They were about $2400 new, the compression driver had a neo magnet and replacements were about $750. These were the top of the 2-ways for the three years they were produced starting in 1994. IMO adding a musical sub turns these into a 3-way speaker system and they are as good as I've ever heard, and I've owned LS and Khorns. What I'm really getting at is a question of comparative value. After listening to a great many speakers at audio shops and big shows, costing far more, the Epics still stand tall an hold their own in comparison. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oicu812 Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 7 minutes ago, wvu80 said: Not sure about that. They were about $2400 new, the compression driver had a neo magnet and replacements were about $750. These were the top of the 2-ways for the three years they were produced starting in 1994. IMO adding a musical sub turns these into a 3-way speaker system and they are as good as I've ever heard, and I've owned LS and Khorns. I think he means the used market, where you get near Klipschorn performance for 1/5th the price. Simultaneous post, Schu! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emile Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 4 minutes ago, wvu80 said: IMO adding a musical sub turns these into a 3-way speaker system and they are as good as I've ever heard, and I've owned LS and Khorns. Thought about a sub ... but these CF-3's go down pretty deep ... think they are much deeper than Forte;s even though the specs say no .... pretty close to my KPT-904 (although in a much bigger room ) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvu80 Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 Just now, Shiva said: What I'm really getting at is a question of comparative value. I knew what you meant, point well taken. If I had to shell out twenty-five hundred bucks today the CF-4's or CF-3's put out that much value in sound. Picking up that kind of sound for under a thousand is a deal. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvu80 Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 5 minutes ago, Emile said: Thought about a sub ... but these CF-3's go down pretty deep ... think they are much deeper than Forte;s even though the specs say no .... pretty close to my KPT-904 (although in a much bigger room ) The CF-4's have dual 12" woofers but when they are cranking, the woofs move very little which is why they have very low distortion. I added a 15" sealed sub DIY with a 500 watt plate amp and it really fills out that bottom octave with oomph. If you've ever heard a baby grand or a grand piano up close and personal, the CF-4's with a sub SOUND like a baby grand with the same kind of power up and down the keyboard. If a speaker can reproduce a piano, it can reproduce just about anything. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shiva Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 I have listened to speakers costing 20 grand and more which don't do what the Epics can do, whether as a stereo pair or as part of a home theater. That is what is cool about the Epics and Klipsch. 👍 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emile Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 Guess I was lucky ... paid $650 for my CF-3's ... OK; paid extra for delivery Best money I've ever spend for speakers ... these things are pretty close to "pro" speakers 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oicu812 Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 7 minutes ago, Shiva said: I have listened to speakers costing 20 grand and more which don't do what the Epics can do, whether as a stereo pair or as part of a home theater. That is what is cool about the Epics and Klipsch. 👍 Didn’t Roy / @Chief bonehead design these? If so, he knocked this one out of the park! Thank you, Sir. I’m a fan of your work. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emile Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 19 minutes ago, Oicu812 said: Didn’t Roy / @Chief bonehead design these Yes; but not a big fan of Roy. He gave me the run-around on K-510 horns ... got some from Klipsch ... then got forwarded to Roy ... with the message "I'll find you some" ... never heard from him again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emile Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 53 minutes ago, wvu80 said: @wvu80 ... AWESOME ... as always 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oicu812 Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 @Emile If his work is like mine, you get pulled in many different directions constantly, all day, every day. Occasionally, things fall into the cracks. It’s just a fact of life. I try to cut people some slack! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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