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Yea EpicKlipshFan,i totally understand everything you are saying, im well aware of distortion killing a speaker, i don't do distortion lol, i like to think i have a good ear for listening to audio, i mostly listen to music dvd's, some are good some aren't and some are very well recorded, some sound excellent at only half volume and is extremely loud, some i can turn the volume up close to wide open to get the same effect, all due to how it is recorded of coarse, but i don't get distortion even when it's at level, but it is really working the amp, that's usually when the overload prevention happens, I've always been a Sony fan, i think for the money they make pretty good stuff, i can't afford the high dollar stuff that some have, but let me tell you this little reciever loves these speakers! I am a big believer in an EQ, every recording is different and it really shows with these cf4's, i tweak just about everything i am playing, i think that also helps with distortion to some extent, some things i listen to in 2 channel and some surround, i picked up a M.L. 12 inch 500 watt sub of CL a few months ago, my last one was toasted by lightning, wasn't on a protector, i missed it, but man, this sub fills in the bottom seamlessly, glad to hear some still enjoy the vers.3's , like i mentioned, i have never heard the others, but it's hard to imagine anything sounding much better, after all most 25 years i am still in love with them, and i think they sound as good as they ever have, definitely looking for an amp tho, thanks guy's, any opinions are always welcome

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15 hours ago, Truepiclover said:

Yea EpicKlipshFan,i totally understand everything you are saying, im well aware of distortion killing a speaker, i don't do distortion lol, i like to think i have a good ear for listening to audio, i mostly listen to music dvd's, some are good some aren't and some are very well recorded, some sound excellent at only half volume and is extremely loud, some i can turn the volume up close to wide open to get the same effect, all due to how it is recorded of coarse, but i don't get distortion even when it's at level, but it is really working the amp, that's usually when the overload prevention happens, I've always been a Sony fan, i think for the money they make pretty good stuff, i can't afford the high dollar stuff that some have, but let me tell you this little reciever loves these speakers! I am a big believer in an EQ, every recording is different and it really shows with these cf4's, i tweak just about everything i am playing, i think that also helps with distortion to some extent, some definitely looking for an amp tho, thanks guy's, any opinions are always welcome

I would look for an amp that puts out at least 200 watts a side.  What price range?  What state do you live in, perhaps, there is something good on the local Craigslist.

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Hey Shiva, yes im near Kansas city, i look pretty much everyday, hoping to find at least 200 per channel, the only ones affordable are not much more than i already have, there has benn a couple but way outta my price reach, really nice one on there now but it's 2200.00,i can buy something new for that, but i keep looking, just seen a set of black version 3 cf4's in topeka last week fir 950, already gone lol, thanks for the input

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$200, no bids yet ... 220wpc ... https://www.ebay.com/itm/large-heavy-KENWOOD-BASIC-M2A-STEREO-POWER-AMP-AMPLIFIER-A/123902522325?epid=1953338364&hash=item1cd92a73d5:g:hjAAAOSwB3pddxTN

 

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One more ... $400 ... https://www.ebay.com/itm/Kenwood-M2A-Power-Amplifier-Fully-Tech-Serviced-working-great-220w-ch-in-8-ohm/113863716728?hash=item1a82ce6f78:g:pbcAAOSwF3ldYDGU

 

OK; reason for listing these ... have one (with a Kenwood Basic C2 pre-amp) on my CF-3's ... these amps are very, very good and way underrated ... haha, therefor still available at reasonable prices :D 

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6 hours ago, Truepiclover said:

Hey Shiva, yes im near Kansas city, i look pretty much everyday, hoping to find at least 200 per channel, the only ones affordable are not much more than i already have, there has benn a couple but way outta my price reach, really nice one on there now but it's 2200.00,i can buy something new for that, but i keep looking, just seen a set of black version 3 cf4's in topeka last week fir 950, already gone lol, thanks for the input

Your local Craigslist is quite bleak at the moment, isn't it.     If you would like to try an amp with all the power you will ever need, look at the Crown XLS 1502.  It is a Class D pro amp with 300 watts at 8ohms.  You can get one on Amazon, new or used and try it out for fun and see what it brings to the party.  

 

https://www.amazon.com/Crown-XLS1502-Two-channel-Power-Amplifier/dp/B011X2HTZC/ref=sxin_2_ac_d_rm?ac_md=0-0-Y3Jvd24geGxzIDE1MDI%3D-ac_d_rm&crid=FMGEDFHD2SIM&keywords=crown+xls+1502&pd_rd_i=B011X2HTZC&pd_rd_r=a2e4d66a-c3be-4226-871e-c1773091b191&pd_rd_w=HqnUj&pd_rd_wg=GYjFF&pf_rd_p=404c4843-2c96-4d0d-a5fe-2b0598693e61&pf_rd_r=ARKXDVRNRT7QEVHZ8AF7&qid=1568243304&s=gateway&sprefix=crown+xls%2Caps%2C306

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OK; suggesting a Crown K2 ... usually about $400 :D 

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Hey Emile, sounds good if you will hand deliver it to my door😁 i have looked at the crown and other pro stuff, but don't they have different type inputs, like quarter turns or something like it? 

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1 minute ago, Truepiclover said:

have looked at the crown and other pro stuff, but don't they have different type inputs, like quarter turns or something like it? 

I have a Crown K2 that I use with my KPT-904's ... absolutely awesome. But, it may be a bit too much power for your CF-4's, unless you stay away from max volume :D  The K2 has 1/4 inch and XLR inputs ... used 1/4 inch before, but it broke off inside the amp :(  ... now using a RCA to XLR adapter ($5 online).

 

Using a Kenwood Basic M2 amp (220wpc) with a C2 preamp on my CF-3's.  Pretty sure that's all the power they need ... haha, have had them up to 120dB's :D 

 

Good luck with the search :) 

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2 hours ago, Shiva said:

 If you would like to try an amp with all the power you will ever need, look at the Crown XLS 1502.  It is a Class D pro amp with 300 watts at 8ohms.

How would you use that? I presume the AVR would be the pre-pro into the 1502, but at that point do you use the Crown for both HF and LF?

 

My instinct would be to bi-amp using the 1502 for the LF and the AVR's internal amp for the HF.

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1 hour ago, wvu80 said:

How would you use that? I presume the AVR would be the pre-pro into the 1502, but at that point do you use the Crown for both HF and LF?

 

My instinct would be to bi-amp using the 1502 for the LF and the AVR's internal amp for the HF.

I would just let the Crown power the Epics full range, no bi wire, with AVR as pre. I wouldn’t underestimate the Crowns top end off the bat, without hearing it first, it might surprise.

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On 9/10/2019 at 5:57 PM, Truepiclover said:

Yea EpicKlipshFan,i totally understand everything you are saying, im well aware of distortion killing a speaker, i don't do distortion lol, i like to think i have a good ear for listening to audio, i mostly listen to music dvd's, some are good some aren't and some are very well recorded, some sound excellent at only half volume and is extremely loud, some i can turn the volume up close to wide open to get the same effect, all due to how it is recorded of coarse, but i don't get distortion even when it's at level, but it is really working the amp, that's usually when the overload prevention happens, I've always been a Sony fan, i think for the money they make pretty good stuff, i can't afford the high dollar stuff that some have, but let me tell you this little reciever loves these speakers! I am a big believer in an EQ, every recording is different and it really shows with these cf4's, i tweak just about everything i am playing, i think that also helps with distortion to some extent, some things i listen to in 2 channel and some surround, i picked up a M.L. 12 inch 500 watt sub of CL a few months ago, my last one was toasted by lightning, wasn't on a protector, i missed it, but man, this sub fills in the bottom seamlessly, glad to hear some still enjoy the vers.3's , like i mentioned, i have never heard the others, but it's hard to imagine anything sounding much better, after all most 25 years i am still in love with them, and i think they sound as good as they ever have, definitely looking for an amp tho, thanks guy's, any opinions are always welcome

 

keep in mind, when i say distortion or clipping, you cant really hear that, just like when you say your amp goes into protect but sounds good to you.  any amp can go into clipping & you wont hear it.  so be careful driving power hungry speakers with mediocre receivers... & no amp should ever be ran at full "wide open" power.  they dont make the woofers & drivers for these epics anymore & you will have a heck of a time trying to located them if they blow. 

 

& no offense to you or your sony... but sony receivers are not very good, for about the same price you can get onkyo or yamaha receivers that have much better amplification & usually much better features.  sony ES are decent quality but again for the price there are many other better brands. 

 

for amps, $400-$500 will get you a very good used amp in the 200watt per channel range.  for about $400 you can get a adcom gfa555ii that is an excellent amp & will drive the epics to levels you have never heard before with your receiver, & the adcoms have clipping indicator lights to warn you if the amp is even beginning to approach clipping.  many other brands in that price range too, keep checking your local CL or ebay or put a wanted ad in the garage sale section here. 

 

       

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I find a couple of different amps within about a 3 hours from me on cl, I'm sure either would be a great fit, there is this Adcom for 550.00
(This ADCOM GFA-555 is a rare classic. You will not find many of these for sale since the lucky people who own them, keep them! The design and power is second to none. At 200 watts per channel into 8 ohms, this baby will light up any quality speakers. This is the original Nelson Pass design. It's a HIGH CURRENT two channel amp. Adcom named it their “Great F-ing Amplifier” for a reason. The awesome sound stage and clean audio with super low THD, will blow you away. It will hold its own)

and this Carver

Carver M 1.5T Amplifier rated 350 W/Ch RMS@8 Ohm & 700 W/Ch Dynamic He - $700 -This is THE Carver amplifier everyone who knows desires and and is always hunting for. Pair it up with the notable Carver C1 preamp and you’ll never want / need to upgrade ever again. Because there is nowhere to upgrade unless you want to buy some Mcintosh $50,000 setup. This amp was the direct result of the famous Carver challenge where he used one of his amps and copied a Mark Levinson amp sonically so that even the trained audiophiles at Stereophile magazine couldn’t identify which was which by listening to it. Carvers made some amazing pieces of audio gear over the past 40 years like his 7” cube amps that run 200x2 or 500 x 1 and only weigh 14lbs, or his 11” square sealed True Subwoofer pushing 2700 wpc rms and some of the old Phase Linear gear but this is his best work and one of the best sounding amplifier he ever designed. This is the 2 Channel amplifier made by Carver that everyone wants. Just look on eBay at all the people offering modification, updates, etc for this amp. But, if you are hunting the M-1.5t then you probably already know all of the above and are wondering if you finally found it. Don’t let someone grab it while you are pinching yourself to make sure it’s not a dream. 🙂

 

I think either would be fantastic! 

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