Who has Klipsch Palladium speakers and can tell me a little bit about them?

[Fjd]

 

Would it be a bad thing to forgo seeing my Son and his family this year to attend the 2016 Hope Gathering??? My My My... I should give him a call!!!

 

 

 

You could always make it a family get together in Hope and invite your Son and his family.    

[MyOwn]

 

 

Would it be a bad thing to forgo seeing my Son and his family this year to attend the 2016 Hope Gathering??? My My My... I should give him a call!!!

 

 

 

You could always make it a family get together in Hope and invite your Son and his family.    

 

I could, My son lives in Idaho, I'm in Iowa....My son's Fiancee..."I'm sure she would be okay letting him go leaving her with a 6, 4 and 3 year old"  LOL...Doesn't mean I can't put off a visit to them to come to Hope :emotion-55:

[Ceptorman]

 

I own the Palladium 5.1 setup with p37s. Although I do use this setup for home theater I also use it for 2 channel listening probably 75% of the time. There is no doubt you are paying somewhat for the build quality and aesthetics the speakers provide. I think they are gorgeous and extremely well made/engineered. Except for the decals.

The room they are in calibrated and the sound is as flat as it can be. They sound fantastic - better than my klispchorns (not calibrated, much larger room).

Would I buy them again? Yes. YMMV but if money isn't the issue then get them, you will not be sorry. I would suggest the Palladium subwoofer to go with any of the 3 speaker options (37, 38, or 39). The sub is perfectly matched to the speakers and you will hear excellent bass, but bass that dovetails flawlessly with the speakers, if properly setup.

 

 

Put them in the same room, under the same circumstances, with the same sourceand A/B them with others present and try to make me believe they sound better than Klipschorns, been there, done that, with a room full of Forum members as witnesses and it isn't even close. Klipsch set them all up, so I would assume conditions are optimal for the comparison. You don't have to close your eyes, the listening is not critical, it was obvious to everyone in attendance that the PF-39s just aren't in the same ball park. Come to Hope, listen for yourself, then tell the engineers and the rest of us, how the listening setup is skewed in the Klipschorns favor?

 

There, I extended the invitation, Happy??

 

Roger

 

Is it possible for another test with the same speakers, different amps, that the Khorn didn't sound best to your eyes?

[derrickdj1]

Sound is subjective like music taste.  I have heard the smaller Heritage/extended Heritage line like Heresey, Forte

I, Forte II, Corwall's and LaScala and they all share a sweet mid-rang.  I would think this extends to the Khorn and if you like the sound, go for it.    The matching of gear is critical as well as calibration and setup with any system.  But, I would be grinning from ear to ear with a set of Palladium towers. Those speakers look good like some of the European sports cars.

[twistedcrankcammer]

 

 

I own the Palladium 5.1 setup with p37s. Although I do use this setup for home theater I also use it for 2 channel listening probably 75% of the time. There is no doubt you are paying somewhat for the build quality and aesthetics the speakers provide. I think they are gorgeous and extremely well made/engineered. Except for the decals.

The room they are in calibrated and the sound is as flat as it can be. They sound fantastic - better than my klispchorns (not calibrated, much larger room).

Would I buy them again? Yes. YMMV but if money isn't the issue then get them, you will not be sorry. I would suggest the Palladium subwoofer to go with any of the 3 speaker options (37, 38, or 39). The sub is perfectly matched to the speakers and you will hear excellent bass, but bass that dovetails flawlessly with the speakers, if properly setup.

 

 

Put them in the same room, under the same circumstances, with the same sourceand A/B them with others present and try to make me believe they sound better than Klipschorns, been there, done that, with a room full of Forum members as witnesses and it isn't even close. Klipsch set them all up, so I would assume conditions are optimal for the comparison. You don't have to close your eyes, the listening is not critical, it was obvious to everyone in attendance that the PF-39s just aren't in the same ball park. Come to Hope, listen for yourself, then tell the engineers and the rest of us, how the listening setup is skewed in the Klipschorns favor?

 

There, I extended the invitation, Happy??

 

Roger

 

Is it possible for another test with the same speakers, different amps, that the Khorn didn't sound best to your eyes?

 

 

 

Anything is possible, but I sincerely doubt it.

 

It was as plain as the nose on your face, both the RF-7IIs and the Paladiums were creating sound / distortion, that was easily heard that was not from the source

 

Roger

[twistedcrankcammer]

Sound is subjective like music taste.  I have heard the smaller Heritage/extended Heritage line like Heresey, Forte

I, Forte II, Corwall's and LaScala and they all share a sweet mid-rang.  I would think this extends to the Khorn and if you like the sound, go for it.    The matching of gear is critical as well as calibration and setup with any system.  But, I would be grinning from ear to ear with a set of Palladium towers. Those speakers look good like some of the European sports cars.

 

 

AND, the boxes are built in CHINA

 

Roger

[Ceptorman]

 

Sound is subjective like music taste.  I have heard the smaller Heritage/extended Heritage line like Heresey, Forte

I, Forte II, Corwall's and LaScala and they all share a sweet mid-rang.  I would think this extends to the Khorn and if you like the sound, go for it.    The matching of gear is critical as well as calibration and setup with any system.  But, I would be grinning from ear to ear with a set of Palladium towers. Those speakers look good like some of the European sports cars.

 

 

AND, the boxes are built in CHINA

 

Roger

 

Mine were built in the USA

[tigerwoodKhorns]

Sound is subjective like music taste.  I have heard the smaller Heritage/extended Heritage line like Heresey, Forte

I, Forte II, Corwall's and LaScala and they all share a sweet mid-rang.  I would think this extends to the Khorn and if you like the sound, go for it.    The matching of gear is critical as well as calibration and setup with any system.  But, I would be grinning from ear to ear with a set of Palladium towers. Those speakers look good like some of the European sports cars.

 

My Palladiums are much better than my K Horns or Belles were. 

 

Good analogy with cars, like comparing a refined European sports car to the hot rod crap that is made in the USA. 

[rebuy]

Strange turn--Personally-if I'm spending that kind of money--it will be for the sound and not the "looks".

I'd like for my speakers to be somewhat attractive but in the end--it's the sound that counts.

I'm not gonna pay an extra 10 grand for looks.

[twistedcrankcammer]

 

 

Sound is subjective like music taste.  I have heard the smaller Heritage/extended Heritage line like Heresey, Forte

I, Forte II, Corwall's and LaScala and they all share a sweet mid-rang.  I would think this extends to the Khorn and if you like the sound, go for it.    The matching of gear is critical as well as calibration and setup with any system.  But, I would be grinning from ear to ear with a set of Palladium towers. Those speakers look good like some of the European sports cars.

 

 

AND, the boxes are built in CHINA

 

Roger

 

Mine were built in the USA

 

 

 

When we visited Hope last April, the boxes were all being built in China, and they were puting the drivers in the boxes here in the states. At that time, they were hoping to bring Paladium production to Hope. When were your Paladiums purchased new?

 

Roger

[Ceptorman]

 

 

 

Sound is subjective like music taste.  I have heard the smaller Heritage/extended Heritage line like Heresey, Forte

I, Forte II, Corwall's and LaScala and they all share a sweet mid-rang.  I would think this extends to the Khorn and if you like the sound, go for it.    The matching of gear is critical as well as calibration and setup with any system.  But, I would be grinning from ear to ear with a set of Palladium towers. Those speakers look good like some of the European sports cars.

 

 

AND, the boxes are built in CHINA

 

Roger

 

Mine were built in the USA

 

 

 

When we visited Hope last April, the boxes were all being built in China, and they were puting the drivers in the boxes here in the states. At that time, they were hoping to bring Paladium production to Hope. When were your Paladiums purchased new?

 

Roger

 

My P38s cabinets were built in Hope, final assembly in Indianapolis. They were a test pair in Indy. They were supposedly abused. My friend, lead Engineer of Acoustics, obtained them for me. They do not even have serial numbers. They are in excellent condition.

 

After all their analysis were performed, he did a test on all the drivers, and all were fine. He did make a few changes to the crossovers during their test, left some of the changes intact, but some of their changes were brought back to stock, I'm not sure what he did. 

 

I'm amazed at how much bass these have, I really don't hear a need for a sub for 2 channel. 

[twistedcrankcammer]

 

 

 

 

Sound is subjective like music taste.  I have heard the smaller Heritage/extended Heritage line like Heresey, Forte

I, Forte II, Corwall's and LaScala and they all share a sweet mid-rang.  I would think this extends to the Khorn and if you like the sound, go for it.    The matching of gear is critical as well as calibration and setup with any system.  But, I would be grinning from ear to ear with a set of Palladium towers. Those speakers look good like some of the European sports cars.

 

 

AND, the boxes are built in CHINA

 

Roger

 

Mine were built in the USA

 

 

 

When we visited Hope last April, the boxes were all being built in China, and they were puting the drivers in the boxes here in the states. At that time, they were hoping to bring Paladium production to Hope. When were your Paladiums purchased new?

 

Roger

 

My P38s cabinets were built in Hope, final assembly in Indianapolis. They were a test pair in Indy. They were supposedly abused. My friend, lead Engineer of Acoustics, obtained them for me. They do not even have serial numbers. They are in excellent condition.

 

After all their analysis were performed, he did a test on all the drivers, and all were fine. He did make a few changes to the crossovers during their test, left some of the changes intact, but some of their changes were brought back to stock, I'm not sure what he did. 

 

I'm amazed at how much bass these have, I really don't hear a need for a sub for 2 channel. 

 

 

 

Lucky that you got some kind of a Hope built Prototype then

 

I hope you can document that they were indeed built in Hope

 

Spending that kind of cash for built in China, assembled in the USA leaves a very bad taste in my mouth

 

I guess we will find out in May if they have brought production to Hope in the past year?

 

Roger

[JiminSTL]

I have a pair of P38 towers. They replaced a pair of Polks. I never really considered another brand.

 

Pros                                                                                              Cons

Sounds fantastic, hard to describe how good they sound           It is expensive to put a whole home theater system together

Absolutely beautiful

Pieces of art

Huge WAF

Small footprint for width

Hear sounds in songs I've never heard before

Ceptor, congratulations on the P38s.

 

Am curious what Polks they replaced, and would you say the P38s sound 10%/25%/. . . /100% "better"?

 

Thanks.

[ChuckAb3]

Ceptorman ...congrats Would love to hear/have a pair, regardless of where the boxes were made.

[Ceptorman]

 

 

 

 

 

Sound is subjective like music taste.  I have heard the smaller Heritage/extended Heritage line like Heresey, Forte

I, Forte II, Corwall's and LaScala and they all share a sweet mid-rang.  I would think this extends to the Khorn and if you like the sound, go for it.    The matching of gear is critical as well as calibration and setup with any system.  But, I would be grinning from ear to ear with a set of Palladium towers. Those speakers look good like some of the European sports cars.

 

 

AND, the boxes are built in CHINA

 

Roger

 

Mine were built in the USA

 

 

 

When we visited Hope last April, the boxes were all being built in China, and they were puting the drivers in the boxes here in the states. At that time, they were hoping to bring Paladium production to Hope. When were your Paladiums purchased new?

 

Roger

 

My P38s cabinets were built in Hope, final assembly in Indianapolis. They were a test pair in Indy. They were supposedly abused. My friend, lead Engineer of Acoustics, obtained them for me. They do not even have serial numbers. They are in excellent condition.

 

After all their analysis were performed, he did a test on all the drivers, and all were fine. He did make a few changes to the crossovers during their test, left some of the changes intact, but some of their changes were brought back to stock, I'm not sure what he did. 

 

I'm amazed at how much bass these have, I really don't hear a need for a sub for 2 channel. 

 

 

 

Lucky that you got some kind of a Hope built Prototype then

 

I hope you can document that they were indeed built in Hope

 

Spending that kind of cash for built in China, assembled in the USA leaves a very bad taste in my mouth

 

I guess we will find out in May if they have brought production to Hope in the past year?

 

Roger

 

The lead engineer on the Palladium series became a friend of mine when I did a huge remodeling job on his home. He's a British guy named Chris Perrins. When I talk with him we seem to talk about building projects more than speakers. He does a lot of home building projects himself. Very interesting guy. He told me they assembled these in Indy from Hope built cabinets, I remember reading on here that the Palladiums were built in Hope the first few years of production, 2009 I believe, I can't confirm that. 

 

I know exactly what you mean about buying goods made in the USA, I do whenever I can. I'll bet 70% of the goods sold in Walmart are made overseas, and most of that is in China. But if we refused buy anything made overseas, we would all be riding a horse to work

 

I have a pair of P38 towers. They replaced a pair of Polks. I never really considered another brand.

 

Pros                                                                                              Cons

Sounds fantastic, hard to describe how good they sound           It is expensive to put a whole home theater system together

Absolutely beautiful

Pieces of art

Huge WAF

Small footprint for width

Hear sounds in songs I've never heard before

Ceptor, congratulations on the P38s.

 

Am curious what Polks they replaced, and would you say the P38s sound 10%/25%/. . . /100% "better"?

 

Thanks.

 

Thank you. They replaced a pair of Polk RM7400Ts. There is absolutely no comparison. The Polks are a joke compared to the P38s.

 

Ceptorman ...congrats Would love to hear/have a pair, regardless of where the boxes were made.

Thanks…..if you're ever passing through Indy, let me know, my door is always open.

[Bella]

I own the Palladium 5.1 setup with p37s. Although I do use this setup for home theater I also use it for 2 channel listening probably 75% of the time. There is no doubt you are paying somewhat for the build quality and aesthetics the speakers provide. I think they are gorgeous and extremely well made/engineered. Except for the decals.

The room they are in calibrated and the sound is as flat as it can be. They sound fantastic - better than my klispchorns (not calibrated, much larger room).

Would I buy them again? Yes. YMMV but if money isn't the issue then get them, you will not be sorry. I would suggest the Palladium subwoofer to go with any of the 3 speaker options (37, 38, or 39). The sub is perfectly matched to the speakers and you will hear excellent bass, but bass that dovetails flawlessly with the speakers, if properly setup.

 

 

Put them in the same room, under the same circumstances, with the same sourceand A/B them with others present and try to make me believe they sound better than Klipschorns, been there, done that, with a room full of Forum members as witnesses and it isn't even close. Klipsch set them all up, so I would assume conditions are optimal for the comparison. You don't have to close your eyes, the listening is not critical, it was obvious to everyone in attendance that the PF-39s just aren't in the same ball park. Come to Hope, listen for yourself, then tell the engineers and the rest of us, how the listening setup is skewed in the Klipschorns favor?

 

There, I extended the invitation, Happy??

 

Roger

Without a doubt the Klipschorn is no slouch. That's why I own them. But I don't have the gift of determining which speaker is better after just a few hours of comparison. I've formed my opinion over the course of hundreds of hours of listening. To this day, I still gravitate to the Palladiums over the Klipschorns. YMMV.

You'll note I did say that the Palladiums were in a calibrated environment, the Klipschorns are not. This might have an impact on my choosing the Palladiums as the better speaker. I would further stipulate that each speaker has its strengths v. the other. I do prefer the Klipschorns for their soundstage which, imo, the Palladium cannot match. But for details, nuances, and smoothness, I give the nod to the Palladiums.

My schedule is far too demanding to allow for any time to come the Hope. Thanks for the invite, though.

[Ceptorman]

 

 

I own the Palladium 5.1 setup with p37s. Although I do use this setup for home theater I also use it for 2 channel listening probably 75% of the time. There is no doubt you are paying somewhat for the build quality and aesthetics the speakers provide. I think they are gorgeous and extremely well made/engineered. Except for the decals.

The room they are in calibrated and the sound is as flat as it can be. They sound fantastic - better than my klispchorns (not calibrated, much larger room).

Would I buy them again? Yes. YMMV but if money isn't the issue then get them, you will not be sorry. I would suggest the Palladium subwoofer to go with any of the 3 speaker options (37, 38, or 39). The sub is perfectly matched to the speakers and you will hear excellent bass, but bass that dovetails flawlessly with the speakers, if properly setup.

 

 

Put them in the same room, under the same circumstances, with the same sourceand A/B them with others present and try to make me believe they sound better than Klipschorns, been there, done that, with a room full of Forum members as witnesses and it isn't even close. Klipsch set them all up, so I would assume conditions are optimal for the comparison. You don't have to close your eyes, the listening is not critical, it was obvious to everyone in attendance that the PF-39s just aren't in the same ball park. Come to Hope, listen for yourself, then tell the engineers and the rest of us, how the listening setup is skewed in the Klipschorns favor?

 

There, I extended the invitation, Happy??

 

Roger

 

Without a doubt the Klipschorn is no slouch. That's why I own them. But I don't have the gift of determining which speaker is better after just a few hours of comparison. I've formed my opinion over the course of hundreds of hours of listening. To this day, I still gravitate to the Palladiums over the Klipschorns. YMMV.

You'll note I did say that the Palladiums were in a calibrated environment, the Klipschorns are not. This might have an impact on my choosing the Palladiums as the better speaker. I would further stipulate that each speaker has its strengths v. the other. I do prefer the Klipschorns for their soundstage which, imo, the Palladium cannot match. But for details, nuances, and smoothness, I give the nod to the Palladiums.

My schedule is far too demanding to allow for any time to come the Hope. Thanks for the invite, though.

 

Very interesting. But you just got booted off Roger's Christmas card list

[Ceptorman]

Bella, just curious, what are you powering your Palladiums with?

[Scrappydue]

How does one define a % of the sound they hear?  

easy! since i get a insane deal on both sets i IMMEDIATELY take price out of the equation. then i listen in the dark so i take looks out of the equation. i set them up to the best of my abilities and a/b them back and forth. when i hear ALMOST the same sound with just very SUBTLE differences i put a percentage on it. its that simple. i have multiple friends come over and do the same thing. take an average. really not hard to do at all. 

 

But the klipsch price tag aside are absolutely amazing sounding speaker

exactly. people get stuck on the price. and sure if you pay msrp, then i think you get a crappy deal and aren't getting your moneys worth. period.

 

The room they are in calibrated and the sound is as flat as it can be. They sound fantastic - better than my klispchorns (not calibrated, much larger room).

funny you are the second person i have heard say this. i believe you since you actually own them both in your home.

 

If you are serious about the sound, and not how beautiful the Paladiums are, Drag your butt to Hope in May and listen to the Flagship PF-39s against Klipschorns and RF-7IIs, and make an informed decision for yourself,  instead of a guess!   If you are truly about sound reproduction, you will be owning King Klipschorns!   This is not even a contest!   Roger

this gets so old reading. i dont know how one can judge speakers in a store. klipsch listening room? dont care. still not a home. horns jammed in the corner to gain huge bass impact that they need. p-39's not spread apart at all. not sure how this is a fair fight at all. yet i keep hearing about it from you. i know of two people now that actually own palladium towers and khorns. both of them say the palladium is better. only thing i heard one of them say was the bass was better from the khorn. seems logical if its a horn loaded 15" in a corner.    

[Scrappydue]

Anything is possible, but I sincerely doubt it.

PLACEBO is so strong in this hobby people dont even realize it. sit in a dark room without seeing either speaker. both are FREE TO YOU. pick one you like the best. that is the ONLY way to take placebo out of it. period.