Full Range Posted October 24, 2020 Author Share Posted October 24, 2020 10 minutes ago, oldtimer said: Thus proving the practicality of the moving magnet. The AT 170 is a moving magnet cart That’s why I’m upset 😢 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 5 minutes ago, Full Range said: The AT 170 is a moving magnet cart That’s why I’m upset 😢 Yeah, lots of them including mine are getting as rare as hen's teeth. Sad, innit? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KROCK Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 7 minutes ago, Full Range said: The AT 170 is a moving magnet cart That’s why I’m upset 😢 I emailed https://www.vpiindustries.com/store/c35/Cartridges.html with your info. Their about 1/2 hour from where I live. Lets see what they say. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MicroMara Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 @JohnJ said .....Wasn't aware of that they always have glowing reviews. Yes this is true and is always exactly the problem.Of course, this is all a question of the individual gear and your own listening demands. You read a good reviews about a product and believes automatically that it corresponds to the own requirements, thus one goes and buys it, but is annoying then if it is not as good as thought. Therefore I read reviews always in between the lines. This tells me if a product is interesting for me or not and whether I really need it. Who wants to impress us old rabbits with words ? BTW..the last Audio Magazine I bought ? ...can´t remember ! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 It always comes down to matching with the tonearm. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KROCK Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 9 minutes ago, MicroMara said: @JohnJ said .....Wasn't aware of that they always have glowing reviews. Yes this is true and is always exactly the problem.Of course, this is all a question of the individual gear and your own listening demands. You read a good reviews about a product and believes automatically that it corresponds to the own requirements, thus one goes and buys it, but is annoying then if it is not as good as thought. Therefore I read reviews always in between the lines. This tells me if a product is interesting for me or not and whether I really need it. Who wants to impress us old rabbits with words ? BTW..the last Audio Magazine I bought ? ...can´t remember ! (quote) BTW..the last Audio Magazine I bought ? ...can´t remember ! Mine was Stereo Review in the 80s. I think I still have it somewhere. lol 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MicroMara Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 8 minutes ago, oldtimer said: It always comes down to matching with the tonearm. A TT follows the laws of physics A turntable is a complex electromechanical spring mass oscillating circuit Consisting of five individual systems arranged in a row: 1) is the needle in the movable needle bearing 2) the tone arm in the chassis 3) form the two 1+2 together with the platter+platter bearing+chassis . In addition, the high frequency scanning for magnetic systems is indispensable: 4.+5.) the electrical resonant circuit of the pickup system and the supporting cantilever self-resonance. But these remain outside for the time being, since they only have an effect in the high frequencies >10Khz. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MicroMara Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 @oldtimer go back to school LOL 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnJ Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 Ortofon Red had glowing reviews and their Silver which is supposed to be a step above that came with my current tt. It was trash, excuse me TRASH. Could have been the elliptical stylus shape but I think there was more to it than that. I'm not ignorant of good sound from records. I was in 1980 but was steered correctly by honest people at that physical stereo shop that did A to B comparisons for me. They liked a step above what I got but the $180 I spent back then for the one below it was good. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 Ortophon black is the way to go. Mara, I graduated, I just didn't know the 170 was MM. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnJ Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 7 minutes ago, oldtimer said: Ortophon black is the way to go. Mara, I graduated, I just didn't know the 170 was MM. That is one of their pricy ones, correct? Looked at their Bronze but got a better deal with the AT. So what I was talking about are their ubiquitous mm elliptical carts. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnJ Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 (edited) This isn't Dr. John to go with my red beans & rice late dinner but it is very nicely done classical guitar. Though it was going to be by that conductor that did all of the movie music.. but nope it is a gem. * It could be the same guy, I'm not sure says he arranged the guitar work. Edited October 24, 2020 by JohnJ * 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MicroMara Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 14 minutes ago, oldtimer said: Ortophon black is the way to go. Mara, I graduated, I just didn't know the 170 was MM. I know it and it´s really superb 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Full Range Posted October 24, 2020 Author Share Posted October 24, 2020 6 minutes ago, JohnJ said: This isn't Dr. John to go with my red beans & rice late dinner but it is very nicely done classical guitar. Though it was going to be by that conductor that did all of the movie music.. but nope it is a gem. John Williams is an Australian classical guitarist 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 14 minutes ago, JohnJ said: That is one of their pricy ones, correct? Looked at their Bronze but got a better deal with the AT. So what I was talking about are their ubiquitous mm elliptical carts. The black is a shibata. Pricy, yes. But not stupid pricy like lots of MC's. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MicroMara Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 9 minutes ago, oldtimer said: The black is a shibata. Pricy, yes. But not stupid pricy like lots of MC's. agreed , it´s about 600 € here and affordable 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Full Range Posted October 24, 2020 Author Share Posted October 24, 2020 10 minutes ago, MicroMara said: agreed , it´s about 600 € here and affordable Our Australian pesos have a low exchange rate So it’s always more expensive looking at any upgrade from my part of the world 😭😭 So prudence and looking at everything holistically to see if it matches my system is key to not making expensive mistakes 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KROCK Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 1 LP left 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KROCK Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 Good ole Boys! 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave1290 Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 Managed to watch a little football this afternoon and listen to a couple new LP's. Ray Wylie Hubbard's been around a loooong time but he's never given up. His latest release is actually pretty cool with the lead track having Ringo Starr on drums and Joe Walsh workin a lil magic. It's a funny kinda listen w/him sounding a lot like Bob Dylan both in the vocals and his style of play. Side 2 is the strange one for me... He really drew me into his music just like it's supposed to do. Left me wanting another listen but it's some good stuff if ya want to check it out. You'll be jammin before he's done! Another great tune of his from 2010... Snake Farm! This one was lost in the shuffle long ago. RSD #505 of 1k and it's still as good as ever! 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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