robertg Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 I am thinking of building a pair of Klipschorn clones using JBL components and I have a few question. Does anyone have a crossover schematic using the E145, 2482, and 2404 combination? I'm also trying to figure out what horn to use. I have one 2480 lying around, but they only go down to 500 Hz. Has anyone used the JBL 2486 horn? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schu Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 Your thinking about building a bass bin... its pretty Complicated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertg Posted March 19, 2017 Author Share Posted March 19, 2017 I built a pair of Hartsfields last year, and I didn't think it was that difficult. Just very time consuming. My E145 and 2404 are 8 ohm, and the 2482 is 16 ohm. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babadono Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 Your midrange whatever it works out to be will have to go as low as 400Hz if pairing with a KHorn bass bin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babadono Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 8 minutes ago, robertg said: I built a pair of Hartsfields last year, and I didn't think it was that difficult. Just very time consuming. My E145 and 2404 are 8 ohm, and the 2482 is 16 ohm. Nice work robertg. Very nice indeed. Welcome to the forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvu80 Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 Welcome to the forum, Robert. Your Harstford project looks spectacular. Any comment on how they sound? You could compare to a stock unit, but I doubt many of us would know what that sounds like. It's probably more interesting to know how they sound standing on their own. +++ If I could inquire further, what is your interest in building a Khorn clone with JBL components? Are you trying to build a better Khorn, or maybe you are a fan of JBL components? I feel sure there's a plan there. In any case, please take pics of your progress and feel free to document your build here. I think a lot of people would follow your project with interest. I know I would. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertg Posted March 19, 2017 Author Share Posted March 19, 2017 I can't really comment how the Hartsfields sound. I have an old pair of two way JBL 030 that have a D130 and and an 075 tweeter to compare them to. The Hartsfields do sound better, but they weren't worth the effort. I built them because I like the way that they look. That's why I want to build a Klipschorn. As far as building them with JBL components, I'm kind of trying to build a better Klipschorn, however I have all of the JBL parts lying around so I figure I might as well use them. When I was doing a Google search on my 2482 JBL drivers, I discovered that some people use them in the Klipschorn. My next step is to find a reasonably priced horn that will fit in a Klipschorn cabinet, and go to 400 Hz. If I can't I might build them slightly larger, but still to scale. I'm not sure if I really want to do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyrc Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 Welcome to the forum! I had a pair of JBL 030 systems in C34 rear loaded horns. With lots of EQ, they sounded good. Not as good as a Klipschorn. The Hartsfield had a great midrange horn and lens, the best looking lens ever! To me, the Hartsfield seemed to lack bass, however. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mancave Man Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 Dave sells his Eliptrac400 squawker horn as a kit. http://www.fastlaneaudio.com/eliptrac.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvu80 Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 11 minutes ago, Mancave Man said: Dave sells his Eliptrac400 squawker horn as a kit. That's a good idea. I never even thought of that. As a dovetail to ManCave Man's suggestion, since people do purchase the Eliptrac horns, that usually means there are some Klipsch horns available on the used market. If you decide you want stock Klipsch horn, you might put out a WTB in the Garage Sale section. I bet there are some guys here who have them to sell. +++ @robertg do you have your plans for the Khorn box? I think there are some blueprints listed on this Forum somewhere if you need them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertg Posted March 20, 2017 Author Share Posted March 20, 2017 1 minute ago, wvu80 said: @robertg do you have your plans for the Khorn box? I think there are some blueprints listed on this Forum somewhere if you need them. I found a few sets of plans. I haven't compared them, but they are metric and the writing looks like German to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvu80 Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 6 hours ago, robertg said: My next step is to find a reasonably priced horn that will fit in a Klipschorn cabinet, and go to 400 Hz. If I can't I might build them slightly larger, but still to scale. I'm not sure if I really want to do that. Grab these, fast. ie immediately. Don't bother with research or they will be gone. If it ends up you don't want or like them, you can sell them for at least double what you paid. $50 for the pair, shipping $15. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Very-Early-Pair-of-Klipch-K-55-V-Midrange-Horns-Serials-6450-and-6151-/122403775032?hash=item1c7fd56238:g:pZ0AAOSwSlBYzY8d Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mancave Man Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 2 hours ago, wvu80 said: Grab these, fast. ie immediately. Don't bother with research or they will be gone. If it ends up you don't want or like them, you can sell them for at least double what you paid. $50 for the pair, shipping $15. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Very-Early-Pair-of-Klipch-K-55-V-Midrange-Horns-Serials-6450-and-6151-/122403775032?hash=item1c7fd56238:g:pZ0AAOSwSlBYzY8d That's just the first bid. I doubt that they will sell for that price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvu80 Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 Just now, Mancave Man said: That's just the first bid. I doubt that will sell for that price. I missed that it was a true auction. I thought it was a buy it now. Sorry I jumped the gun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertg Posted March 27, 2017 Author Share Posted March 27, 2017 My progress so far this weekend. I bought a pair of JBL 2386 horns to try, and for the veneer I'm using wenge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvel Posted March 27, 2017 Share Posted March 27, 2017 A better khorn is called the Jubilee, but there are no plans available. Great woodworking skills, btw. Bruce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khornukopia Posted March 27, 2017 Share Posted March 27, 2017 2 hours ago, robertg said: My progress so far this weekend. Nice saw cuts. Do you know that those rectangular corner braces should be notched to allow the back and side chamber air to connect with the end (top and bottom) cavities, and should have a full length gusset in the cavity under the joint, that in your picture shows 4 screw heads and some wiped glue? Best wishes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertg Posted March 27, 2017 Author Share Posted March 27, 2017 18 minutes ago, Khornukopia said: Nice saw cuts. Do you know that those rectangular corner braces should be notched to allow the back and side chamber air to connect with the end (top and bottom) cavities, and should have a full length gusset in the cavity under the joint, that in your picture shows 4 screw heads and some wiped glue? Best wishes. I see what you mean by cutting the notch, otherwise it's wasted space. I'm going to brace everything up better, the top piece and middle piece is just sitting there for now. I had to make some practice cuts on those angled pieces, it's kind of like putting up crown moulding in a triangle shaped room. I'm going to have to do some sanding so the sides seal everything up, and maybe use some PL glue to seal everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertg Posted March 27, 2017 Author Share Posted March 27, 2017 1 hour ago, Marvel said: A better khorn is called the Jubilee, but there are no plans available. Great woodworking skills, btw. Bruce I was thinking of building a Jubilee, but I really wanted to build a Klipschorn. I remember reading a magazine in the mid 80's that had a test on the Klipschorn, and I always wanted a pair since. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigerwoodKhorns Posted March 27, 2017 Share Posted March 27, 2017 Nice work. Check this site for a tractrix horn spreadsheet. You can easily build midrange horns that work well with the Khorn. http://wp.volvotreter.de/dl-section/plans/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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