oldtimer Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 Just now, Jeff Matthews said: It reduces our stature in the world, per Zen. Now you are just jousting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Traveler Posted November 26, 2018 Author Share Posted November 26, 2018 6 minutes ago, oldtimer said: how has the practical application of military power suffered? It hasn't. I realize where you are going insofar as military spending and selling goes, but I think the place where we are 'suffering" is in the current civilian leadership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 And facebook leadership is the worst, even factoring in BOA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Matthews Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 Just now, oldtimer said: And facebook leadership is the worst, even factoring in BOA. What's BOA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 Before Orange ******* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Matthews Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 1 minute ago, oldtimer said: Before Orange ******* Okay. I was wondering if you were into busty, old Asians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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oldtimer Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 I'm not sure why the forum censored Aryan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 3 minutes ago, Jeff Matthews said: Okay. I was wondering if you were into busty, old Asians. I wasn't aware they existed. Do you have any pictures? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Matthews Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 1 minute ago, oldtimer said: I wasn't aware they existed. Do you have any pictures? Here you go, friend. https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS754US754&biw=1675&bih=889&tbm=isch&sa=1&ei=3kr7W7KAPe69ggej6or4Aw&q=busty+old+asian&oq=busty+old+asian&gs_l=img.3...7516.11804..12161...0.0..4.115.2783.20j9......2....1..gws-wiz-img.....0..0j0i24j35i39j0i67j0i10._2fWUoXkZ80 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 You are a prince amongst kings! Awesome. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TubeHiFiNut Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 2 hours ago, Zen Traveler said: Well...That's not what the Facebook documentary showed and why they are changing substantially on several fronts. I am in agreement with @Jeff Matthews that watching the documentary from a non-partisan viewpoint instead of from the left would provide you with a different perspective. Neither party/ideology will acknowledge that they employ the same tactics that they accuse the other side of using. And the money keeps rolling in to all of their coffers. Just my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Traveler Posted November 26, 2018 Author Share Posted November 26, 2018 2 hours ago, TubeHiFiNut said: I am in agreement with @Jeff Matthews that watching the documentary from a non-partisan viewpoint instead of from the left would provide you with a different perspective. Agree all you want and I watched that documentary from a non-partisan pov and provided facts to back up my case. There was no suggestion of Democratic equivalent to Cambridge Analytica and Brad Parscale explained how he gamed the system "liberals" created. Quote Neither party/ideology will acknowledge that they employ the same tactics that they accuse the other side of using. You are talking in generalities and not expressing what the documentary conveyed. If we both can agree that was non-partisan then it's up to you to show where they conveyed what you are expressing above--they didn't. Just sayin' and thank you for engaging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Traveler Posted November 26, 2018 Author Share Posted November 26, 2018 2 hours ago, oldtimer said: You are a prince amongst kings! Awesome. 2 hours ago, windashine said: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TubeHiFiNut Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 28 minutes ago, Zen Traveler said: Agree all you want and I watched that documentary from a non-partisan pov and provided facts to back up my case. There was no suggestion of Democratic equivalent to Cambridge Analytica and Brad Parscale explained how he gamed the system "liberals" created. You are talking in generalities and not expressing what the documentary conveyed. If we both can agree that was non-partisan then it's up to you to show where they conveyed what you are expressing above--they didn't. Just sayin' and thank you for engaging. Zen - You seem to want to take this in a partsan direction. Parscale did assert that he gamed the system that the liberals created. Did they create the system and not use it? I think not. As long as vast numbers of well intentioned folks insist on choosing up sides that are predetermined by two "big government" parties that want to keep all the money, power and prestige among the political elite, what Frontline uncovered will continue to perpetuate election after election. The politics of destruction will not abate. As long as we all keep buying what both major parties are selling, nothing will change. Partisan witch hunts serve no one and will only deepen the divide. I hope that Frontline and other non-partisan investigators keep digging. Sunlight is the best disinfectant. Thank you for the conversation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Traveler Posted December 1, 2018 Author Share Posted December 1, 2018 On 11/25/2018 at 10:42 PM, TubeHiFiNut said: Zen - You seem to want to take this in a partsan direction. Parscale did assert that he gamed the system that the liberals created. Did they create the system and not use it? I think not. Hmm...I think the Frontline piece speaks for itself and agree with Parscale. Facebook is making changes because of how their platform got manipulated in the 2016 election (as well as other global events attributed to them) and is a step in the right direction. Quote As long as vast numbers of well intentioned folks insist on choosing up sides that are predetermined by two "big government" parties that want to keep all the money, power and prestige among the political elite, what Frontline uncovered will continue to perpetuate election after election. The politics of destruction will not abate. As long as we all keep buying what both major parties are selling, nothing will change. You present an argument that I've had to rebut before, although I agree some folks do get caught up in the "game" aspect of politics. I don't. I support positions that lead to policies that I think are good for the country. In fact, I was an Independent voter right up until the 2012 election and have always debated policy issues and not candidate's party affiliation until Healthcare actually got addressed--That changed when I realized one party actually was on the other side of issues I cared about, including Foreign Policy. Quote Partisan witch hunts serve no one and will only deepen the divide. I'm not sure what you are talking about here and hope it's not our Government's investigation into how Russia was involved in our election--Given who Robert Mueller is this shouldn't be a partisan matter, imo. Quote I hope that Frontline and other non-partisan investigators keep digging. Sunlight is the best disinfectant. Thank you for the conversation. Me too and sorry I didn't get back sooner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Matthews Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 1 hour ago, Zen Traveler said: I agree some folks do get caught up in the "game" aspect of politics. I don't. I support positions that lead to policies that I think are good for the country. So do all the crazy people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Traveler Posted December 1, 2018 Author Share Posted December 1, 2018 35 minutes ago, Jeff Matthews said: So do all the crazy people. Let's hope there is more of me than there are of them. At least I voted my convictions and hope others do as well so they have no one else to blame--I contend @Mallette's RIP theory shows there may be a bifurcation in the country but how the "RIP" governs it's not the same, depending on who got elected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Matthews Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 3 minutes ago, Zen Traveler said: At least I voted my convictions and hope others do as well Can you name anyone who doesn't? That's what they say about you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T2K Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 It appears that many people did not foresee the convictions that we know of now and the forthcoming convictions before they voted. Hey, a word just popped into my mind... shortsighted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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