Bigdnfay1 Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 I've done a search without much luck. My question: Is their a recone kit for the K-31-E or K? BigD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWL Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 I contacted Simply Speakers a couple years ago and they told me this woofer is not repairable and that it's basically a "throw away woofer". Bob Crites has a replacement woofer. Ciare speakers also make a suitable replacement as well, which is what I use including a few other forum members.Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWL Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 http://www.usspeaker.com/ciare-hw321-1.htmSent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjptkd Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 You are in luck there is a used stock woofer on eBay right now these are very rare and hard to find on the used market: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Klipsch-K-31-K-12-Woofer-For-KLF-30-speaker-Very-good-condition-2/173735242601?hash=item28736d6b69:g:bhEAAOSwGWJcOMWq 2 hours ago, Bigdnfay1 said: I've done a search without much luck. My question: Is their a recone kit for the K-31-E or K? BigD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlthess40 Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 85 bucks. That’s cheap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrestonTom Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 At $85 that is only about 50% off the new price. I would check the Bob Crites website, I believe he has a series that is close in spec to the K-31 (no, I don't know "how close is close enough"?) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwardcase2018@outlook.com Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 Simply Speakers sells a 70 dollar poly mica 12" woofer with 5 mm excursion, but the Re is 7.1, and the KLF-30 original drivers are 5.8. Power handling is similar. Has anyone used the Simply Speakers W-1248 12" Poly/Mica cone 150 watt butyl surround woofer in the KLF-30? The amplifier for it is a Carver. 600 watts into 4 ohm. In the Legend series KLF-30 towers, the 2 woofers are in parallel, and are 8 ohm each like the W-1248. My concern is the lower (by 2 db 91 vs. 93) sensitivity and the Re. The cutout is a good fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrestonTom Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 The most important numbers are Fs, Qts, VAS, and efficiency (the others are important but less so). Compare with the K-31 (those numbers are listed in the JAES article on the Jubilee (and somewhere on the forum)). Are you using this in a ported design (eg KLF30) or a horn design (Jubilees)? Remember the crossover may also need to be redesigned (more than "hey it sounds good") Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coytee Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 On 2/9/2019 at 7:24 AM, Bigdnfay1 said: I've done a search without much luck. My question: Is their a recone kit for the K-31-E or K? I'd think if you have the speakers (with serial numbers on them) you could just buy new replacements directly from Klipsch, no?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwardcase2018@outlook.com Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 I got 2 K-31-K drivers from Klipsch...they are not K-31-E. In fact they are doped paper made in China. The E is graphite composite, or carbon composite I believe. A polymer graphite composite cone. rubber surround. The K driver fits, like others, but are NOT a similar driver. Klipsch failed to inform me. I have 2 good K-31-E, and 2 good K-31-K. I have looked and looked for a driver, and for services to fix the voice coil in the 2 blown K-31-E's I have. They work but were overheated and scrape the magnet gap. I may just give a go at repairing them myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwardcase2018@outlook.com Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 Note: My nephew with a Guitar and Carver 400 watt per channel amp is what drove the speakers to failure. I wish to crown him with his guitar, but....that would not bring back the woofers....lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwardcase2018@outlook.com Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 On 5/27/2020 at 10:51 AM, PrestonTom said: The most important numbers are Fs, Qts, VAS, and efficiency (the others are important but less so). Compare with the K-31 (those numbers are listed in the JAES article on the Jubilee (and somewhere on the forum)). Are you using this in a ported design (eg KLF30) or a horn design (Jubilees)? Remember the crossover may also need to be redesigned (more than "hey it sounds good") The Klipsch Legend... KLF-30 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OO1 Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 20 minutes ago, edwardcase2018@outlook.com said: I got 2 K-31-K drivers from Klipsch...they are not K-31-E. In fact they are doped paper made in China. The E is graphite composite, or carbon composite I believe. A polymer graphite composite cone. rubber surround. The K driver fits, like others, but are NOT a similar driver. Klipsch failed to inform me. I have 2 good K-31-E, and 2 good K-31-K. I have looked and looked for a driver, and for services to fix the voice coil in the 2 blown K-31-E's I have. They work but were overheated and scrape the magnet gap. I may just give a go at repairing them myself. K 31 K Is a factory woofer , made by klipsch OEM -----K 31 E is Eminence OEM , but both should have the same parameters , so both should sound the same --------- check the part number on your K31 K - If it is part number #1067961 , these are used in the Jubilee as we speak, and in all current production JUBS - 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OO1 Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 To fix your K31E , I would suggest calling Eminence directly and asking them if they can sell you a voice coil that is relatively the same size as the K31E , they should have some in stock - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iteachstem Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 I don't know if you're still looking, but the ciare hw321 is out of stock as of 12/4/2020. However, Beyma has a woofer ($125.99) that might be something to look at: https://usspeaker.com/beyma 12BR70-1.htm Otherwise, I do have 4 Original 12" drivers for the KLF 30 if you're interested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanhuth Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 (edited) I have heard that the KLF-20 is regarded to have better bass than the KLF-30 because the enclosure on the KLF-30 is technically too small for the K31 woofers. I believe the VAS of the original K-31 is 386 liters, whereas the VAS for the Ciare HW321 is only 205 liters. Wouldn’t that be an improvement? Both speakers have the exact same impedance (Re): 5.7 ohms, and sensitivity 93dB. The major differences seem to be Fs of 19hz for the K31 vs 27hz for the Ciare, and Qts of 0.185 (K-31) vs 0.33 (Ciare HW321). What does that tell us about using the Ciare HW321 as a replacement for the K31 in the KLF-30? Edited February 14, 2021 by alanhuth typo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidWebber72 Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 I had a pair of KLF20's that I parted with last year. When I purchased them sight unseen shipped from Florida, they had 2 bad woofers with voice coil rub. Ugh! That was annoying! Seeing as there were no OEM replacements to be found at the time, I decided to try the 10" Ciare HW251N drivers after hearing good things about the Ciare HW321 people used in their KLF 30's. Well, they were decent. I wasn't floored and didn't notice any substantial improvement. A little more money than I wanted to be investing in the set.(mid $500 range shipped to my shop.) However, I had some Dayton DSA270-8's in the shop waiting on another project, and I decided to drop them in to see what they would sound like. Couldn't hurt right? Needless to say, the Ciare's went up for sale on eBay the next day. Not only did the Daytons sound tighter, but they looked less like an aftermarket driver slapped in the cabinet as well. (They were in the low $300 range shipped when I purchased them) I know a lot of people one here use Dayton electronic components and the ultimax line of subwoofers, but I would recommend looking at the DSA270-8's as an option for the KLF 20. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtomasx Posted July 13 Share Posted July 13 On 12/4/2020 at 7:32 PM, Iteachstem said: I don't know if you're still looking, but the ciare hw321 is out of stock as of 12/4/2020. However, Beyma has a woofer ($125.99) that might be something to look at: https://usspeaker.com/beyma 12BR70-1.htm Otherwise, I do have 4 Original 12" drivers for the KLF 30 if you're interested. i need one if you still have them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iteachstem Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 7 hours ago, Xtomasx said: i need one if you still have them Those are long gone. Sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtomasx Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 15 hours ago, Iteachstem said: Those are long gone. Sorry. thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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