Edgar Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 I run an all-digital system to the extent that I can (I digitize phono right after the RIAA preamp). My CD player went kaput and new CD players are all but nonexistent, so I'm looking for a DVD or Blu-Ray player (or preferably transport -- I don't need onboard DACs) with S/PDIF or AES/EBU output that does not resample the 44.1 kHz CD signal to 48 kHz. Every DVD and Blu-Ray player for which I have even actually been able to find the info (most don't say) resamples the CD digital output to 48 kHz. Suggestions welcome. Budget approximately $400. Thanks. - Greg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnJ Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 The Cambridge CX transport does that. Mine new was a little higher than that new a couple years ago. You might find one for less than your budget now! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edgar Posted August 26, 2019 Author Share Posted August 26, 2019 33 minutes ago, JohnJ said: The Cambridge CX transport does that. Mine new was a little higher than that new a couple years ago. You might find one for less than your budget now! Thanks, John. Have you had any mechanical problems with yours? A friend warns about reliability, but has no first-hand experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glens Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 So you want to play individual discs as opposed to serving ripped files? What's the reason, if I might ask? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edgar Posted August 26, 2019 Author Share Posted August 26, 2019 43 minutes ago, glens said: So you want to play individual discs as opposed to serving ripped files? What's the reason, if I might ask? Simple: I have the discs. And I don't have the motivation or the time to rip them to a server. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron167 Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 Yamaha makes nice players [emoji102] Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnJ Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Edgar said: Thanks, John. Have you had any mechanical problems with yours? A friend warns about reliability, but has no first-hand experience. It is all that I have used in the stereo since almost three years ago and I love it. It does not have all the timers that my old Yamaha carousel did but I quit making recordings so I got over that. * Besides the DAC/channel in my pre make digital almost magnificent! Edited August 27, 2019 by JohnJ * Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edgar Posted August 27, 2019 Author Share Posted August 27, 2019 54 minutes ago, JohnJ said: It is all that I have used in the stereo since almost three years ago and I love it. I've spent the evening Internet shopping. I'm a bit torn, because I can get the Cambridge CX for ~$400 or I can get a factory refurbished Onkyo C-7030, with warranty, for about 1/3 of that. The Onkyo probably isn't in the same quality class as the Cambridge, but since I'm only using the transport do I really care? Even if the C-7030 mechanicals self-destruct after a year or two, I can replace it twice for what I would pay for one CX. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnJ Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 Always something isn't it? I wanted to play DVDs and SACDs the one Cambridge had was $750. I choked on that price, it was a rebadged big popular brand that shut down last year. The new ones tripled in price after that! I figure I'm good for now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deang Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 Buy the Cambridge. I absolutely love their stuff. You won't be disappointed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edgar Posted August 27, 2019 Author Share Posted August 27, 2019 22 minutes ago, JohnJ said: Always something isn't it? I wanted to play DVDs and SACDs the one Cambridge had was $750. I choked on that price, it was a rebadged big popular brand that shut down last year. The new ones tripled in price after that! I figure I'm good for now! For those who are wondering, the Cambridge is built on the same chassis as the Oppo 203. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edgar Posted August 27, 2019 Author Share Posted August 27, 2019 15 minutes ago, Deang said: Buy the Cambridge. I absolutely love their stuff. You won't be disappointed. Thanks. I'll have to prepare myself for surgical removal of several hundred dollars. That may take some time. 😐 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schu Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 Can you actually hear the difference between the 44.1 and 48 file? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edgar Posted August 27, 2019 Author Share Posted August 27, 2019 20 minutes ago, Schu said: Can you actually hear the difference between the 44.1 and 48 file? I don't know. But that's not the point. I'm an electrical engineer whose specialty is signal processing. I know what it takes to do resampling well, and I also know that most resamplers don't. So whether I can hear it or not, it bothers me when someone else is messing with my bits unnecessarily. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glens Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 How about a Bluesound Vault, or Coctail Audio makes something similar which looks very capable. You can rip a CD, then listen to the results while you rip a few more. After however many listening sessions you'll be caught up. I didn't go either route but were I to do it over I'd look first at the Bluesound unit. On the point of the thread I fully agree with you. I'd guess any player that was going to up-sample ought to prominently offer it as one option. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnJ Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 12 hours ago, Edgar said: the Cambridge is built on the same chassis as the Oppo 203. Yea that's the brand, there have been two in good shape for sale at the garage section just last month. They don't show up often here. 1 hour ago, Schu said: Can you actually hear the difference between the 44.1 and 48 file? Good question. Pretty sure that your rig is more sensitive than mine is with the BIG Klipsch you have! My new system came together in less than six months. All I know is that the DACs in my current gear are light years ahead of what I had previously used. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edgar Posted August 27, 2019 Author Share Posted August 27, 2019 54 minutes ago, glens said: How about a Bluesound Vault, or Coctail Audio makes something similar which looks very capable. You can rip a CD, then listen to the results while you rip a few more. After however many listening sessions you'll be caught up. I've thought about that. But the current Vault 2i is $1200! A PC is an intrinsic part of my system, serving as digital EQ and crossover. But it's a "headless" Intel NUC with no optical drive. I could attach a big HD and rip as I go, but I'd still need a CD player or USB drive to spin the disc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvel Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 1 hour ago, Edgar said: A PC is an intrinsic part of my system, serving as digital EQ and crossover. What software do you use for your eq and crossover duties? Can you give some info for that, in simple terms... ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edgar Posted August 27, 2019 Author Share Posted August 27, 2019 46 minutes ago, Marvel said: What software do you use for your eq and crossover duties? Can you give some info for that, in simple terms... ? I write my own, operating under ASIO. https://sdk.steinberg.net/viewtopic.php?t=9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babadono Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 4 hours ago, Edgar said: I don't know. But that's not the point. I'm an electrical engineer whose specialty is signal processing. I know what it takes to do resampling well, and I also know that most resamplers don't. So whether I can hear it or not, it bothers me when someone else is messing with my bits unnecessarily. I thought you were concerned you would have to change your anti-aliasing filters or your DAC couldn't do 48kHz. Carry on..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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