No.4 Posted March 24, 2020 Posted March 24, 2020 As a good distraction today I have been playing music in the listening room and helping my daughters with their DIY projects. I have been popping in to do a little critical listening here and there. One thing I have noticed is the sweet spot appears to be at the listening position but not at seated height it is present when I am standing. Have any of the other builders noticed this? @Rudy81 @Thaddeus Smith @Chris A have any of you experimented with toe in?
NBPK402 Posted March 24, 2020 Posted March 24, 2020 I would def stay home, and when you go anywhere...practice safe distancing and wash yours hands often. Get well soon Rudy.Sent from my SM-T830 using Tapatalk
Thaddeus Smith Posted March 24, 2020 Posted March 24, 2020 2 hours ago, No.4 said: As a good distraction today I have been playing music in the listening room and helping my daughters with their DIY projects. I have been popping in to do a little critical listening here and there. One thing I have noticed is the sweet spot appears to be at the listening position but not at seated height it is present when I am standing. Have any of the other builders noticed this? @Rudy81 @Thaddeus Smith @Chris A have any of you experimented with toe in? Mine are toed so that the center is aimed to just a couple inches from the center of my mlp, not crossed. Basically pointing at my ears, and when sitting down my ears are near the top of the wing assembly. Haven't spent much time listening while standing, but it sounds really good while seated.
Rudy81 Posted March 24, 2020 Posted March 24, 2020 1 hour ago, Randyh said: airplanes are some of the dirtiest places ---best you report it to your Airline ----just to advise other passengers on both flights - That was done a week ago.
Rudy81 Posted March 25, 2020 Posted March 25, 2020 19 minutes ago, Thaddeus Smith said: Mine are toed so that the center is aimed to just a couple inches from the center of my mlp, not crossed. Basically pointing at my ears, and when sitting down my ears are near the top of the wing assembly. Haven't spent much time listening while standing, but it sounds really good while seated. As you know, mine are slightly toed in and basically aimed at my ears, crossing just behind my LP. The stack height is centered at my LP ear height. I have not had any issues at the LP relative to height. Are your ears below or above the center of the stack?
Rudy81 Posted March 25, 2020 Posted March 25, 2020 You can always experiment by raising the front or back of the wings in order to change the dispersion of the AMTs.
Thaddeus Smith Posted March 25, 2020 Posted March 25, 2020 5 minutes ago, Rudy81 said: As you know, mine are slightly toed in and basically aimed at my ears, crossing just behind my LP. The stack height is centered at my LP ear height. I have not had any issues at the LP relative to height. Are your ears below or above the center of the stack? above. pretty much at the top of the top driver in the stack.
No.4 Posted March 25, 2020 Posted March 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, Rudy81 said: As you know, mine are slightly toed in and basically aimed at my ears, crossing just behind my LP. The stack height is centered at my LP ear height. I have not had any issues at the LP relative to height. Are your ears below or above the center of the stack? I am seated pretty close to the center of the stack height. There is just a very “live” presence to vocals if I stand at the LP. Not to say there is anything wrong seated, far from it. I just need to keep experimenting. Glad to see you posting!
Rudy81 Posted March 25, 2020 Posted March 25, 2020 5 minutes ago, No.4 said: I am seated pretty close to the center of the stack height. There is just a very “live” presence to vocals if I stand at the LP. Not to say there is anything wrong seated, far from it. I just need to keep experimenting. Glad to see you posting! Not much else I can do.....
No.4 Posted March 25, 2020 Posted March 25, 2020 20 minutes ago, Rudy81 said: You can always experiment by raising the front or back of the wings in order to change the dispersion of the AMTs. I thought about that. I did raise the assembly up above the top of the bass bins 1 1/2” then 3”. There seemed to be subtle differences, but no game changers. I will angle them at the listening position tomorrow. For now I will enjoy. 14 minutes ago, Rudy81 said: Not much else I can do..... I hope you are able to enjoy some good tunes while you get better!
Rudy81 Posted March 25, 2020 Posted March 25, 2020 1 hour ago, No.4 said: I thought about that. I did raise the assembly up above the top of the bass bins 1 1/2” then 3”. There seemed to be subtle differences, but no game changers. I will angle them at the listening position tomorrow. For now I will enjoy. I hope you are able to enjoy some good tunes while you get better! Sadly no. I can barely get out of my chair. As I heal I am planning on spending a lot of time listening to the AMTs. It will be nice to return someday to business as usual. All the things we take for granted......
No.4 Posted March 25, 2020 Posted March 25, 2020 32 minutes ago, Rudy81 said: Sadly no. I can barely get out of my chair. As I heal I am planning on spending a lot of time listening to the AMTs. It will be nice to return someday to business as usual. All the things we take for granted...... I’m sorry to hear that. I hope you get back to normal soon!
Deano1974 Posted March 26, 2020 Posted March 26, 2020 Sadly no. I can barely get out of my chair. As I heal I am planning on spending a lot of time listening to the AMTs. It will be nice to return someday to business as usual. All the things we take for granted......Hey RudyHow you feeling today, hope your slowly getting through itSent from my VOG-L09 using Tapatalk
Coytee Posted March 26, 2020 Posted March 26, 2020 On 3/24/2020 at 10:22 PM, Rudy81 said: Sadly no. I can barely get out of my chair. As I heal I am planning on spending a lot of time listening to the AMTs. It will be nice to return someday to business as usual. All the things we take for granted...... Just now seeing this. Hope this ends sooner verses later. I've not heard (or maybe paid attention?) to how long the symptoms last for someone before you're on the other side. Perhaps a silver lining..... lots of listening time?? (is there any silver lining??)
Rudy81 Posted March 26, 2020 Posted March 26, 2020 1 hour ago, Coytee said: Just now seeing this. Hope this ends sooner verses later. I've not heard (or maybe paid attention?) to how long the symptoms last for someone before you're on the other side. Perhaps a silver lining..... lots of listening time?? (is there any silver lining??) Not yet
Chris A Posted March 28, 2020 Author Posted March 28, 2020 On 3/24/2020 at 7:31 PM, No.4 said: ...I did raise the assembly up above the top of the bass bins 1 1/2” then 3”. There seemed to be subtle differences, but no game changers. I will angle them at the listening position tomorrow. For now I will enjoy... Any new developments? I noticed that sitting down at the listening position made a fairly large difference with the single AMT-1s on top of Khorn clone bass bins. All that says to me is that the vertical coverage is fairly narrow. Perhaps I should try the advice that I gave earlier on in this thread, and see if the vertical coverage can be increased by using a double stack on my Belles and delaying the top AMT-1 to approximate a curved line array, as in case "f" below: Chris 1
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