ThomasD. Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 So, I've driven 400 miles from home to visit my 100 year old mother in an assisted care facility. I'm limited to 1-20 minute visit a day w/ 6' separation and no contact due to the current situation. This is a great improvement considering there was no physical visiting at all until very recently. Anyway, with extra time on my hands and wanting to find my mom a little jewelry gift before heading home I stumble into a little Antique/gift shop near where I'm staying. After not finding much that she would find appealing in the jewelry section decided to just browse the rest of the store. Only took 30 seconds to notice this............ Immediately started looking for it's twin. Couldn't find it anywhere so asked for assistance. 30 minutes later it was found covered in wrapping paper and used as a Christmas Tree stand. Price tag on each speaker said $198. Explained to the well meaning but uninformed sales associate that those prices were well outside of reason and they must have been priced as a set not individually. After coming to a mutual understanding regarding this pricing error it only seemed prudent to make an offer. Ended up carrying them out for $150 for the pair. Will be several days before getting them home and tested. Hoping they are operational, new x/o's will be in order. Just couldn't help but give these survivors a 2nd chance. Not my best score but not my worst. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC39693 Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 Nice, hope all the drivers work, small crossover fix up and voila, great speakers rescued from the antique store. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasD. Posted December 16, 2020 Author Share Posted December 16, 2020 Was actually thinking of picking up a really clean pair of '89 Oiled Oak H2's offered on Facebook when I get back home. Offered @ $600 but think seller might take 5 bills. Then these HBR's showed up. Wife would not be happy but I'd have a pair of 1's, 2's & 3's. 🤪 Really can't justify having 3 sets of Heresy's but, but............ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasD. Posted December 16, 2020 Author Share Posted December 16, 2020 Guess what I found so unusual was when the sales associate said those speakers had been in the store for over a year and no one had even asked about them. They were just glad to move them out. Probably left money on the table but have long since quit worrying about what if. Felt the selling price was more than fair for all involved especially if in need of some TLC. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebes Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 Good score. Pop some Russian PIO's in the xovers and you are ready to rock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasD. Posted December 22, 2020 Author Share Posted December 22, 2020 On 12/18/2020 at 3:27 PM, thebes said: Good score. Pop some Russian PIO's in the xovers and you are ready to rock. @thebes Ok. They’re a far cry from the SQ of my H3’s. Pretty simple X/O design. Think I can handle replacing the few caps on these. Can you give me more specific PIO cap recommendations? Never ordered them before. Not concerned with cost since there aren’t many, just want good ones to improve the SQ. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OO1 Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 2 minutes ago, ThomasD. said: @thebes Ok. They’re a far cry from the SQ of my H3’s. how different are the H1 VERSUS the H3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasD. Posted December 22, 2020 Author Share Posted December 22, 2020 SQ wise, quite a bit. Hoping it’s age of x/o components. Less imaging, sound stage and highs are lacking. All drivers making sound just not quite right sounding. Don’t expect them to absolutely equal the 3’s but can tell they’re lacking from what they should be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OO1 Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 6 minutes ago, ThomasD. said: SQ wise, quite a bit. Hoping it’s age of x/o components. Less imaging, sound stage and highs are lacking. All drivers making sound just not quite right sounding. Don’t expect them to absolutely equal the 3’s but can tell they’re lacking from what they should be. there is something definitely wrong with these speakers--check the DCR of all the drivers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasD. Posted December 22, 2020 Author Share Posted December 22, 2020 Impedance? What should the drivers measure? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OO1 Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 Woofers - 8 ohms , mids 16 ohms - tweeters 8 ohms - depending on the year of the Heresy , you could have a K22 Woofer , K55V or K52H or a K53 - Tweeter could be a K77 round magnet ( Alnico ) or a K77M square magnet ------crossovers could be E -1-2-3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OO1 Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 53 minutes ago, ThomasD. said: Impedance? What should the drivers measure? the woofers may measure more than 8 ohms , the mids less than 16 ohms the tweeters can range from 6 to 8ohms Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blvdre Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 Your sound issues still may be just the caps. Place your ear up to each driver to verify that it's functioning. I would also suggest replacing the internal wiring and terminals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasD. Posted December 22, 2020 Author Share Posted December 22, 2020 Haven’t had a chance or time to pop the back off yet. But all individual drivers are producing sound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebes Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 Here's theUkranian Ebay guy I've used in the past. Either the brown cans or the greenies will work. I do believe it's a single 2uf and 4uf per speaker. https://www.ebay.com/str/valtek2005/Paper-in-Oil/_i.html?_storecat=3289815018 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter P. Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 So you picked up a pair of Heresy's for your 100 year old mother? What is she gonna use 'em for; hearing aids?!😀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wuzzzer Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 3 hours ago, thebes said: Here's theUkranian Ebay guy I've used in the past. Either the brown cans or the greenies will work. I do believe it's a single 2uf and 4uf per speaker. https://www.ebay.com/str/valtek2005/Paper-in-Oil/_i.html?_storecat=3289815018 If it's a Type E network it's two 2uf caps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasD. Posted December 23, 2020 Author Share Posted December 23, 2020 I'm assuming this is the correct schematic for a '78 H1? Heresy I Type E Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasD. Posted December 23, 2020 Author Share Posted December 23, 2020 13 hours ago, Peter P. said: So you picked up a pair of Heresy's for your 100 year old mother? What is she gonna use 'em for; hearing aids?!😀 Not likely, She's got better hearing than I do @ 57. And an astounding memory of the WWII and before. One aspirin and one blood thinner pill a day is her only medication. One of the last of a brave and valiant generation who's qualities are sadly lacking in our current one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybob Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 13 minutes ago, ThomasD. said: Not likely, She's got better hearing than I do @ 57. And an astounding memory of the WWII and before. One aspirin and one blood thinner pill a day is her only medication. One of the last of a brave and valiant generation who's qualities are sadly lacking in our current one. Cool and nice gift. Merry Christmas to her! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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