JefDC Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 Hello, I'm looking at a set of second hand Palladium P-17B's, these speakers have a mid range horn with a passband of (500Hz) 600hz - 3.4kHz This is even lower than the midrange horn of a Heresy (850Hz - 5000Hz) Is the Palladium midrange sound comparable to the Heresy ? Thanks ... Jef 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OO1 Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 1 hour ago, JefDC said: Is the Palladium midrange sound comparable to the Heresy ? Thanks ... Jef no , it is a different sound , the Palladium is a precise , neutral , in your face mellow, warm sound , while the Heresy can reproduce very powerful HF , like the bigger heritage speakers , for classical music , the Palladium , For live band sound , the Heresy rocks . 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JefDC Posted March 4, 2022 Author Share Posted March 4, 2022 Exact the info I needed, thanks !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainbeefheart Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 I listen to lots of Classical on Heresy's and it sounds great. I will agree that the Heresy does have a more "live" sound like you at the orchestra, even better with the bigger heritage models but the Heresy is still a great speaker. I think the way I would describe the difference is the Palladium if you are more into a neutral recording studio type sound and the Heresy if you want a more lively expressive sound. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uteman1011 Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 Great descriptions of the differences! Makes so much sense when you all describe the nuance of each speaker and I really appreciate that. I learn something new everytime I log on to the site! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OO1 Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 15 hours ago, JefDC said: Exact the info I needed, thanks !!! if you have the opportunity to purchase the Palladium , dont miss it , the speakers cabinets are works of art and a very stiff build , the Palladium P-17B has the same HF drivers as the P-39F packing a midrange to die for , and most important without the ear fatigue , it's actually a rare speaker that has no equivalent unless you compare it to the rest of the Palladium Series . 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MMurg Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 I have to heartily agree with @RandyH on this one. While the Heresy will have the advantage in bass punch, the Palladium midrange and high frequencies are much better. The 4.5" horn-loaded midrange driver is simply magical. The highs are very smooth, silky, and well extended. If you can audition them first, you should. Once I heard the P-37F that my friend offered to sell me (he was getting La Scala), I had to have them. Now I have a house full of palladiums. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve. Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 Check them carefully. The Palladium series suffered from surround problems. Parts are no longer available for those speakers. I would steer clear. Heresy can always be repaired no matter the vintage. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YK Thom Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 Those Palladiums are few and far in-between, I'd grab them. There will always be Heresys floating around, brand new or used, that can be sourced later. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YK Thom Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 I had always hoped the Palladium horn combo ( or a derivative based on the research and design work) would have trickled down to the Reference series. They were a spectacular line that was unfortunately out of the reach of many of us. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OO1 Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 7 hours ago, Steve. said: Check them carefully. The Palladium series suffered from surround problems. it was not the surrounds , but the lack of glue between the aluminium cap and the cone of the P-39F ,+ not all woofers played at the same frequency ,meaning the woofers could be swapped or fixed easily and permanently with crazy glue , under warranty they would send new woofers and even after the warranty was expired , klipsch used to give owners special low prices on new woofers , Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalifornian Posted March 6, 2022 Share Posted March 6, 2022 I’ll chime in as a former P-17b owner. They don’t sound like Klipsch, they sound like Klipsch trying to compete with B&W high end speakers. No soul no excitement. Smooth and bland. Non offensive but they don’t put on a show. Different strokes for different folks but I’d take the Heresy’s everyday and twice on tuesdays. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjptkd Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 I had a pair of the P-17b's for awhile they were very smooth and detailed but had almost no bass to speak of making them sound a bit small and thin on their own. I replaced them with a pair of vertical RC-7's and was honestly much more happy with their performance overall. I've had numerous pairs of H-1's, H-II's and H-III's and while their bass performance is not on par with some of the larger Klipsch speakers I never really had the feeing that they "needed" a sub like the P-17's do. P-17's cost twice as much as H-1's on average most likely more, need a sub IMO and have no available replacement parts-- If I wanted that type of sound / performance I'd likely go with a different manufacturer that still warranties their products or offers replacement parts just for piece of mind. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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