seti Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 30 minutes ago, OO1 said: no one is asking you to sell the horns , but how about loaning the horns for an Exhibit /Event at the klipsch Museum .     I don't display my k403's as they are my daily drivers. They have the driver PWK picked out the B&C DE82TN. Trust me the museum has plenty of K403's. They have some beautiful horns out of bloodwood.. I think. Then they have other examples. Have you been to the museum? They have the consumer V1. It is beautiful. Roy and Klipsch museum already has K403s... It will be fun to see the rare stuff come out for display at the museum over time...  The drivers fit fine. Sound fine. Measure fine. Zako aka Maron didn't give them to me I bought them but wth in my book $500 is a giveaway.  It will be fun to see where this auction ends up very strange....   Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OO1 Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 32 minutes ago, seti said:  It will be fun to see where this auction ends up  , 50 watchers , but not a single offer , sure does not look good . Good Evening Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Travis In Austin Posted October 13, 2022 Moderators Share Posted October 13, 2022 21 hours ago, Wrench said: I find it appealing that it is one of a kind.  Visual over sound. It's in the Klipsch Museum and the Curator can tell you everything about it. How long to make, who made it, how PWK came to the rescue to get it finished, and a 100 other things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Travis In Austin Posted October 13, 2022 Moderators Share Posted October 13, 2022 5 hours ago, OO1 said: no one is asking you to sell the horns , but how about loaning the horns for an Exhibit /Event at the klipsch Museum .    I'm asking him to sell the horns, donate the cash, and we will get him two 403s that don't have Ron Popiel spray on hair on them. Then we can rebuild PWK's Ampex 352. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seti Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 7 hours ago, Travis In Austin said: I'm asking him to sell the horns, donate the cash, and we will get him two 403s that don't have Ron Popiel spray on hair on them. Then we can rebuild PWK's Ampex 352.  Well they would still come form the same place lol..  I'll make a deal with you. You can have all my Klipsch speakers when I'm dead 8-) All donated to the museum unless Stacey wants them lol....   Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seti Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 7 minutes ago, seti said: Ampex 352.  That is a hell of a job. How many Ampeces do we have that need to be restored?   Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilbert Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 On 10/9/2022 at 10:01 AM, John Chi-town said: As holy as they are $125K seems outrageous to me. Â We'll need an expert for "Pawn Stars" to inspect and determine their real value. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Travis In Austin Posted October 13, 2022 Moderators Share Posted October 13, 2022 4 hours ago, seti said:  That is a hell of a job. How many Ampeces do we have that need to be restored?   Well the Museum has PWK's 351, Transport and mike amps on a bridge. Jim Haynes, a Charter Trustee donated two "for parts" Ampex 350 or 351 (not sure which) that we can harvest parts from. Have Jim show you the next time you are down.  The older 350 utilized metal enveloped tubes like the 12SJ7 Pentodes which were used throughout much of the electronics and only the 6C5/6J5 triode and the 6SN7 dual triode were used in the record circuit driver. The first stage playback head preamplifier tube was also indicated as a special " select" version which all had to be independently tested each for lowest noise before it was appropriate for playback purposes. It also utilized all point to point wiring in the electronics.  The 351 was a huge departure, it utilized the new 12AX7/ECC83 and the 12AT7 dual triode tubes. They were much lower in noise (as all triodes are in comparison to pentodes) and were in small glass envelopes. They were also mounted on those newfangled printed circuit board thingies!  Can you see what we have?  I have my Dad's MR-71, an ATR 102, and a 360? (it came out of our Ampex console we had in our house from about '62 until the early 70)s. It was given to my Dad, they sold for more than most cars cost back then. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seti Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 4 hours ago, Travis In Austin said: Well the Museum has PWK's 351, Transport and mike amps on a bridge. Jim Haynes, a Charter Trustee donated two "for parts" Ampex 350 or 351 (not sure which) that we can harvest parts from. Have Jim show you the next time you are down.  The older 350 utilized metal enveloped tubes like the 12SJ7 Pentodes which were used throughout much of the electronics and only the 6C5/6J5 triode and the 6SN7 dual triode were used in the record circuit driver. The first stage playback head preamplifier tube was also indicated as a special " select" version which all had to be independently tested each for lowest noise before it was appropriate for playback purposes. It also utilized all point to point wiring in the electronics.  The 351 was a huge departure, it utilized the new 12AX7/ECC83 and the 12AT7 dual triode tubes. They were much lower in noise (as all triodes are in comparison to pentodes) and were in small glass envelopes. They were also mounted on those newfangled printed circuit board thingies!  Can you see what we have?  I have my Dad's MR-71, an ATR 102, and a 360? (it came out of our Ampex console we had in our house from about '62 until the early 70)s. It was given to my Dad, they sold for more than most cars cost back then.  I was supposed to go down Friday morning to show Jim a new scanner I have been testing. Work got in the way. I'll maybe make it next Friday. I did some work on a Bogen DB230 for the museum and will be returning it. Nice little piece 6DW5 outputs with DC filaments.  Do we know an expert Ampex restorer? These need a special touch for sure. The PWK mods should be well documented.  Next time I am in Austin I would love to see your RTR stash.   Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtmudd Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 On 10/13/2022 at 11:16 AM, Gilbert said: Â We'll need an expert for "Pawn Stars" to inspect and determine their real value. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haydukej Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 Well at almost 2 years, the seller might have realized they were $86K too high. https://www.ebay.com/itm/304655625433?mkevt=1&mkpid=2&emsid=e90001.m162181.l175008&plmtId=700008&mesgId=3024&mkcid=8&ch=osgood&bu=43064868254&trkId=e24da651-e06b-3cf1-baf5-db27489b393a&cnvId=700003&recoId=304655625433&recoPos=1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjptkd Posted April 30 Author Share Posted April 30 48 minutes ago, haydukej said: Well at almost 2 years, the seller might have realized they were $86K too high.   Still at $40k I think I'd rather have a new pair. I wish him the best of luck! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark1101 Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 In the end, sadly these are not even "real" underground Jubs. A lot of hype for a DIY clone job and a hodge podge of unofficial and unsupported parts. Plus, the old cabinet design.  Outrageous marketing and salesmanship...........a ripoff artist.   1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Travis In Austin Posted May 1 Moderators Share Posted May 1 On 10/13/2022 at 8:51 PM, seti said:  I was supposed to go down Friday morning to show Jim a new scanner I have been testing. Work got in the way. I'll maybe make it next Friday. I did some work on a Bogen DB230 for the museum and will be returning it. Nice little piece 6DW5 outputs with DC filaments.  Do we know an expert Ampex restorer? These need a special touch for sure. The PWK mods should be well documented.  Next time I am in Austin I would love to see your RTR stash.   That's now you. I have all of the manuals from my Dad who unfortunately passed away, so we are on our own. Which is a shame, he could have told you what to do, inwhat order, from memory. But the services manuals are very robust, with spec voltage, resistance values at different measuring points.  So I will get them to ya. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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