READ ABOUT A SMALL PERSON CALLED GEORGE WRIGHT!!!!

[jt1stcav]

This unfortunant situation is a sad one indeed...and I see Jeff's point of view.

George was trying to do a nice thing by requesting the change of aesthetics from Marius. But after realizing that there'd be additional costs due to vendors no longer making parts for older model chassis, not having the proper matched new chassis and that upon discovery Marius' chassis are older models no longer manufactured, and for modifying said chassis to accommodate newer parts...he should've nipped it all in the bud and sent Marius his monoblocks back in original unchanged condition (George later admits that was his first sin in taking on this task). Although on George's behalf, he did e-mail Marius back and explained the situations as they became apparent to him. I suppose what changed all that was the fact that his assembler had to virtually destroy one of the original chassis to take it apart to make any necessary changes, so nipping it in the bud as it were would've been a moot point. The damage was already done. George should probably have best repaired or replaced as best he could the damaged original chassis and let it end there with an owner of used monoblocks unhappy that he couldn't get what he originally wanted.

Marius unfortunantly didn't seem to grasp the significance to any of the details presented to him, and to request any further worked halted and for his amps to be returned to him unmodified when things weren't going his way (again, it's probably moot since one of his chassis was virtually destroyed in removing its parts). He only seemed to notice the added time it would take to do said work and to additional charges that weren't originally agreed upon (how could the original estimate be agreed on after all the later discoveries? If Marius had any common sense he should've assumed that much). Marius failed to realize that his original request to upgrade the appearance of used amps he bought from an original Wright customer would have been iffy right from the beginning (it is an unusual request IMO); all he seemed to do was demand these upgraded aesthetics be performed ASAP, and for George to drop everything and get started immediately on his monoblocks and to hell with all his prior commitments to his paying customers who bought new from him directly! Marius never understood the time it takes for George to do this kind of work, especially since Wright Sound is his part time passion and George has a full time job to contend with. With later discoveries that set the overall timeframe back even further, I can see where Marius would become frustrated as the events unfolded. But that doesn't give him the right to begin with the abusive name-calling and the constant badgering to George on his work ethics and how he operates his business which is totally uncalled for...and I do have to commend George for biting his tongue the entire time and for not stooping down to Marius' level of ignorance!

And even now after everythings been said and done and everyone else on this forum has read the same e-mails that were exchanged between himself and George, Marius still can't seem to realize why no one's on his side, even with the final outcome of his 2A3 amps. Sure, anyone else would be upset if it were his/her own amps, but with all the complaining done by Marius without regards to George's feelings, without listening to what George had to say to him in every single reply...well, he's lucky that George is a professional and an extremely nice guy for even tackling such a task that he now regrets and making sure that his amps were even operational before being shipped back to him. Maybe this entire affair could have been handled much better by both parties, but in the end George did the best he could under extreme circumstances and he stands behind his actions completely, regardless of any future outcome by these events.

And to Marius, you get no sympathy from any of us for your actions. You deserve no customer satisfaction from George Wright not because you're Canadian nor the original owner of Wright Sound monoblocks, but because of your total disrespect for the man and what he tried to do for you. You never truely listened to what he had to say, nor did you try to stop the upgrages when the chance became available...you presisted on getting the updates completed your way even when George made it clear the parts were unavailable or had to be modified, and in a timeframe not realistic with the ever-growing problems that kept arising from your unrealistic demands! IMO you're lucky you received your amps in one piece at all...anyone else might have sent you back a carton full of destroyed remains and charged you double for it!

[Tom Mobley]

yep.

and Jeff, George is not the seller of these amps. Condensed

version: Foul-mouth bought them used somewhere, then sent them to

George wanting them updated to latest config for fractional price so he

could peddle them for a profit. He (poison-pen) is not new here,

has used several aliases in the past, seems to have a habit of getting

into this type of jackpot. Of course, it's always somebody else's

fault. See post from Guy Landau.

BTW, good to see you back. Several here have been curious about your absence.

[meagain]

Tom Mobley - Wow! Interesting...

Did you all catch the fact that Mr. Wright paid $30 some bucks out of his own pocket to ship these back? LOL [:|]

[Parrot]

Whoa, there, Jim. You are stating some conditions that do not exist. There are people here who are sympathetic to Marius's plight.

I think a judge would ignore all the back and forth in between and focus on the essential facts. George accepted the job; it doesn't matter that Marius didn't buy them new from George. When George realized it was not the job he thought it would be, he did not return the amps, as he himself admits he should have. That means that it became his responsibility to make it right to Marius. Sending him two mismatched amps back was outrageous, and far more offensive than some name-calling.

Further, Jim, your idea of sending back a carton full of destroyed remains and charging double for it--that would have either led to a lawsuit or murder, don't you think? Maybe you are just expressing your frustration but that is no way to run a business. Every business has customers who are unreasonable; it comes with the territory.

[NOSValves]

It's fine if a forum member's amps have three watts, but the member's personal wattage should be at least in double digits.

LMAO!

[NOSValves]

Craig:

Is my Amp done yet? []

You better have your "Block Sender" list set-up before I go "Mica" on ya!!!

JJ

Want to hear a really scary tidbit!! My Oldest Son's name is.........Micah. He tends to be a real pain in the A44 at times also but this Mica makes him look like a saint. I think I'll take my Son out ot lunch now []

[NOSValves]

Okay one last post to this thread with some facts and mistakes as I see them. I've made the same mistakes in the past this business is a learn as you go thing.

Some of the mistakes from both parties

1) George should of qualified the version of the amps before he proceeds with the deal.

2) Once inspected George should of explained the discrepancies with a detailed estimate of the total cost to 100% correctly completion of the project . If it was not accepted then see #3

3) At the first sign of problems with the customer George should of reassembled the amps in as sent condition and returned them at his own expense washing his hands of the deal.

1) Mica should not of been combative from near day one.

2) He should of understood that this was not George's normal type of work he is a manufacturer so mistakes are bound to happen.

3) He should of made some real decisions about the course of action when the discrepancies were raised. (I truly think some of the dialog is missing. I think he did choose the least expensive options of the old style chassis but I have no proof of this.)

I never give an absolute solid price for work before inspection. With this type of work to many variables to do something like that. If I did I would have to quote horribly high rates to cover my behind. I give general quotes with the understanding that once it reaches my bench I will do an inspection and advise the least I can do for reliable operation and upgrade options directly to the customer for him to choose what he wants done. I always quote the absolute minimum to maximum cost involved.

But in the end all this means very little! George is not in the business of transferring chassis for amp to amp. In fact beyond warrantee work he is not a repair shop. He stepped out of his realm and had his finger crunched in the process. He lived and he learned no more no less. I just hope Mica learned that treating the supplier that is doing you a favor poorly will net you poor work if you go to extremes.

I don't feel that Mica should of ended up with none matching chassis but I some how wonder if given the options of more cost he made that choice to save a few bucks when it was found out things wouldn't just transfer over and that part of the correspondence is the missing link. Many mistakes made on both sides but in the end George at least was a gentlemen.

Craig

[jt1stcav]

You're right, Paul...I should've read every post instead of skimming along the entire thread. I did miss a few member's statements concerning how they sympathize with Marius and his now mismatched amplifiers. For that, I apologize.

But I did also state that anyone else would be upset as well if it were his/her own amps, myself included. Since it was already too late to send them back in their original condition, I assume from what George wrote that it was impossible from the parts he had available to make them match up perfectly, and that George assembled them as best he possibly could under the circumstances and from the constant demands made by Marius to finish the project ASAP. I also made it clear that the entire affair should have been handled differently by both parties, but it wasn't. Now both parties may suffer from this terrible incident.

And I didn't say that George should've sent back a carton full of destroyed remains and charge double for it...I said anyone else might if pushed to the brink. I don't condone that type of behavior from any business, and if I dealt with any business that was run that way, I'd never deal with them again. Remember, Paul, I work at Guitar Center and I hear about unreasonable customers everyday, so I'm quite aware that it comes with the territory! Lucky for me I am the warehouse manager so I don't have to deal directly with any of them.

Despite all this, I still don't feel sorry for Marius. He could have handled this situation differently and to his advantage if he had listened to George better, or from the onset made it clear that if the cosmetic upgrades could not be accomplished, to return his amps in their original unaltered condition. Instead, he refused to understand the problems faced with the task, and was always under the assumption that the amps could still be made with the cosmetic changes even when George stated he could not and gave the reasons why. This is my opinion (and the opinion of many others) from what I read here which may or may not depict the actual facts.

Remember the fiasco I went through in '03 with my BEZ 300B amp not working; sent it back to Hong Kong for repair/replacement, never received the replacement supposingly shipped, waited a total of 6 months or more to finally receive the original amp repaired by Mr. Lam...Paul, you remember how frustrated I was throughout that ordeal. But I handled the situation with composure and common sense instead of flying off the handle like Marius did, and today I'm still a satisfied BEZ customer and have corresponded with Edmund Lam several times afterwards. If Marius had only communicated to George better and listened to what he had to say, and if George had concluded from the beginning that this was not the job for him, maybe then we'd all be reading another favorable Wright Sound review.

FWIW...

[chops]

Remember the fiasco I went through in '03 with my BEZ 300B amp not working; sent it back to Hong Kong for repair/replacement, never received the replacement supposingly shipped, waited a total of 6 months or more to finally receive the original amp repaired by Mr. Lam...Paul, you remember how frustrated I was throughout that ordeal. But I handled the situation with composure and common sense instead of flying off the handle like Marius did, and today I'm still a satisfied BEZ customer and have corresponded with Edmund Lam several times afterwards. If Marius had only communicated to George better and listened to what he had to say, and if George had concluded from the beginning that this was not the job for him, maybe then we'd all be reading another favorable Wright Sound review.

FWIW...

I knew he was going to find some way of squeezing that old story in here somewhere. And... well, nevermind. []

[ranjith]

I was wondering what book to buy since I've got a 7hr layover on my trip next week, and then I stumble upon meagain's repost of Mica's emails. Saves me a few bucks on a new mediocre fiction novel.

[edwinr]

Frankly, I just couldn't accept having a mismatched pair returned to me. It's a real shame the mono blocs are the real victim here. In these circumstances I would have contacted Mr. Wright again, and negotiated a solution. If the mono blocs had to go back, so be it. Actually there's been no suggestion from MICA that he wasn't prepared to pay...

MICA may have to organise a loan amplifier while Mr. Wright sorts the problem out.

There's no cost effective solution here. Because the amplifiers, in my view, are worth next to nothing now.

[Hemihorn]

Note every thing in red is my thoughts. Also I dont know George or Marius on a personal basis or business.

First thing is, your asking a man to give you an estimate over the phone on a product he made 8 years ago. This product was a prototype, mongrel, mismatched set of amps that you didnt originally buy from him, and was not visually in front of him to look at. Common sense will tell you that he wouldnt know what is involved until he saw the actual amps. In the end he did this all for FREE!!!! Because, in the end, as hard as he tried, he could not meet your request with out great expense to himself, since you didnt want to put any more money out of your pocket to have them done correctly. I would of sent the amps back at your expense, but you wanted your problem to become his problem. The poor sucker George tried to accommodate you. From reading this post he seems to be quite the gentleman. Second, there are to many holes in this post. We are relying on you to tell us what George said to you on the phone. I have seen in this post that George told you of the problems he is having getting things to match, but I never see your reply to his question. ___________________________________________________________________________ Hi George, Attached you'll see a postal scan copy. Want to let you know that I send back to you my 2A3 amps to change the cases with new version (mat colour& letters). You should get it by next week.Please let me know when arrived to you and after the job is done to pay you.I forget to ask you how long will take to move everything to new enclosure? Also,please sign on the bottom label.I really love this amps and need your signature.Hope you'll understand. respectfully Marius _____________________________________________________________________________ George,I'll see you received my amps.Please do it as fast you can to have them back ASAP.You'll charge my visa credit card for $265 total and I'll give you here the first 8 digits.The last 8 I'll let you know over the phone included expire date when are ready to be shipped back to me.Again,declare the package as return from repair ($10 value) to avoid paying a second time border fee.Wait after for your reply including track nr and ship company. _____________________________________________________________________________ Dear Marius, Your amps arrived today, it will take a few days before I can start the changes. Best, George Dear Marius, I did receive the units and I will have someone start prepping the units for transfer, there is one thing I did not think of though, the new chassis is set up for the later larger power transform and yours have the smaller device. To use your transformers I will have to drill new holes for mounting, is that okay or do you want the newer larger power transformers? They do cost a little more $125. each, let me know. Best,

Where is the reply ????? George At this point here you he told you there was problems you should of told him to send the amps back He can't make that decision for you but you were looking for something for nothing __________________________________________________________________________ Dear George, With all due respect,I think is time for my amps to return to me. I called you and left 2 messages but got no answer from you.You received my amps exactly 2 weeks ago and to me,sorry if I'm wrong but should not take longer than a day or two to move the parts from old box to new one.Please let me know why take so long and when can I hope to have them back? Marius ____________________________________________________________________________ Dear Marius, I had told you we should be able to complete these in about three weeks, and they are about half finished. It takes a lot of time to remove all the installed parts and transfer them to an other chassis, much more than building them as new. I am paying my assembler to do these and I am losing money on your project, but I want you to be happy with what we are doing for you. There is one problem I have encounter since these are older 3.5, they use different tube sockets as well as the transformer, we not longer make this chassis as the tube sockets used are no longer manufactured. I located several chassis samples of the older versions but the best I can do is two similar chassis but slightly different finish and rear speaker jack location. There is no way to reproduce these at this time, as the plans are gone for this chassis with this type of socket measurement and we are trying to use as many of your original parts as possible. Best, George ___________________________________________________________________________ Me again Dear George, This whole job is only about COSMETIC and nothing else my friend....If you think I'm gone pay for "the best I can do is two similar chassis but slightly different finish and rear speaker jack locations." YOU ARE WRONG!! .....You ask me $265 for 2 brand new chassis plus tube sockets plus shipping back to me. ____________________________________________________________________________- !!! You made it clear that you wanted a $265 job and that you weren't going to pay any thing more and you wanted your problem to become his. !!! ___________________________________________________________________________ If you don't know or remember what you built 8 years ago,it is not my problem.

!!!Unreasonable to hold the guy to what he did 8 years ago On proto types _______________________________________________________ Also,if you were mention to me from the beginning about these many changes in your production line,I would NOT accept to send these amps back to you.I could sell them for $700 and ad $200 and buy your actual version amps used on Audiogon. You should called me right away after receiving my amps and let me know about the whole problems and differences in parts and that you're not able to accommodate your new chassis.And probably I would ask you to send them back to me without to touch them.Don't try to make me believe you are doing me a favour and you losing money with this project.I hate when people try to take advantage on me and make me look like an idiot.To move few components and 4 transformers it takes you 3 weeks????? And you want me to believe that?? Beside you NEVER mention to me about 3 weeks time for this job.You know,so many things are different now compares with what we talk over the phone....Like I said call me at least now or let me know a different nr you can be reached? Marius _____________________________________________________________________________ Dear Marius, Your amps were received but I have customers ahead of you and I needed to take care of them first. Last week I as called into my other job all week and could not do any work here. I really did not want to switch these as I will lose money no mater what happens, but I thought well you seemed to really like these, against my better judgment I have entered into this project. The chassis I have are all stored elsewhere and these were marked as Mono 3.5, when I took off the protective covering I found one marked as a Mono 1.75. _____________________________________________________________ I have three options here, the first one is to take the 1.75 over to the silk screener, since I have some other chassis to go over I will pay to have the lettering changed, but it will take some time, my guess would be one and a half weeks to two and a half weeks, second option is to use the chassis I have and have you angry because of the slight differences in appearance and three is to box up your parts and send them back, no charge. You should realize in Washington state, if you perform a service, it has to be paid for. If you do not like the level of service, than you can take that person to court and present the facts there. I will not apologize because first I did tell you three weeks, and second these were sold as is for $900 at an electronics show to clear out my proto types and the person that sold them to you should have stated that in the first place. And finally, the reason for the different chassis is due to availability of parts from the vendors, not because of a desire to make a better version, the fact is the circuit has changed little from the first proto types. please tell me how to proceed because I will not go any farther till I hear back from you. George Wright _______________________________________________________________________________ ----- Original Message ----- Dear George, You mention to me before to receive my amps that will take about a week to get the new chassis done to you.We never talk about your old stock and having or trying to accommodate old chassis.. From the first moment we talk about brand new chassis

!!!! I don't see in this post where George talked about 2 new chassis!!! ______________________________________________________ for a brand new present look and your needs to order 2 chassis for me.You should had ready chassis for me in your hands long time ago.Why after 4 weeks you still don't have a firm direction doing this job for me?Now you ask me to wait another 2 weeks to have ready properly chassis in your hand and probably another 4 weeks to finish the whole job.....I don't see any problem here with me,George....For God sake why is so hard for you to do this simple transfer job,my friend? We agreed for a price and now you bump me around with all kind of excuses.To understand that for $265,I don't deserved brand new chassis but only refurbished? Why are you doing this to me after you received my amps? Last summer when I bought these amps, I called you and you confirm me that the only difference between pre-production amps and the present are the paint and lettering chassis. I'm sure you remember me calling from Toronto last summer and guess you don't have a lot of customers here in Ontario either.I heard you're a man of word and simple don't understand why are you doing this to me? I really love your work and never think I could have a problem with you.What about if someone place an order for a brand new 2A3 amps? I doubt you'll make him wait 2-3 months....because he will pay $1500 not like me $265. Also I doubt you'll try to convince him about having 2 slightly different chassis colour..... Come on George,you can do better than this and finish this job ASAP on high cosmetic standards and with brand new chassis,please.Listen as you know I am not an English person and it is more easy conversation with me over the phone. respectfully Marius PS. ________________________________________________________ How about sending me right away another pair you have in stock? Or please think at something for me to have them back in a week. I'm sure you can work somehow to give me satisfaction here.

!!!! unreasonable !!!! You want your problem to be come His problem at his expense ______________________________________________________________________________ Dear Marius, You are right about that, I didn't realize that you had the oldest version of the 3.5, I have made several different versions over the years because of vendors changing the parts they ship. Once I received and took a look I see they are of the earliest version. Like I said when I brought the new chassis home from my storage unit for that version and unwrapped them I found that one of them was marked wrong on the box. I can only deal with the other vendors and it takes time to get them to finish the work so I am picking up several more chassis to take over to the silk screener this Friday and I plan to take the miss labeled one and have him clean it up and mark it correctly. Since you have the old version, if you wanted to buy the newer tube sockets, I could install them on the new type of chassis, as they will not accept the older sockets. The new sockets, which are Russian, would be $11 each for the 2A3 and $8.75 for the octal sockets for an additional $37. USD, since you did want the new transformers, there will be additional holes where the power transformer mounts with the newer chassis. Since this is a small manufacturing business the sales come first, repairs and other work takes second place, that is only fair. I am not in the business of converting units over and I probably should of never taken on your product, but I felt like you really enjoyed these and at a weak moment I went ahead. This is taking time away from what I do best and it has taught me to never offer this type of work again. Best, George Me again, Can you do me a favour and shot a close up picture with my old transformer sitting on the new chassis to see the difference between holes and how bad/good will look? PLEASE. thanks Marius I would like to send you a picture, but I do not have a digital camera, just a very good 35 mm. Sorry, George But did you see the picture was send to you? How will look the holes compare with this picture?Will be far distance from transformer bottom/base? Some of your friend should have a camera to borrow.Wait for your answer if my amps could leave by this Saturday with new chassis? Marius Dear Marius, I do not have time to go around and borrow a camera from someone to take pictures for you, I decided since I have to get customers orders out to pay my taxes this month, that this is more important than your time schedule. I did get the chassis to the silk screener today and he will do the work sometime this week but I will not be able to get the work done by this Friday. I have directed my assemblers to work on current orders and worry about your project after we get the orders out and your other chassis comes back form the silkscreen folks. I have to keep my business going and your project will not pay the bills, so I will get them done when I can. Best, George I have to keep my business going and your project will not pay the bills, so I will get them done when I can." Now,this is something which really upset me.You treat me wrong here and you should know this is happened only because of you and all the customers should be treat equal.For a 2 days job you bumb me around for a month..... I am sure if you'll do this to a US customers,next day everything will be advertise/debate on every audio forum. You should assume responsibility when you say something which proved to be wrong at the end.Learn to handle your deals in a honourable way,my friend.Last time we talk,you promise to let me know by Monday your answer and now is Wednesday. Because of your poor communication I lost a good deal. "I decided since I have to get customers orders out to pay my taxes this month, that this is more important than your time schedule." "I have directed my assemblers to work on current orders and worry about your project after we get the orders out " You decided? I am nothing here,ZERO....Right? You keep my amps and I should wait quiet like a stupid customers...Right? You told me a week ago that I had to stay in line because of others customers and that's why you start working late on my amps.Now you bumb me again? You know this is not right but you don't care...Right? To Hell with customers,let him wait,we have and make our own rules here. After I see how you treat me,I'm asking you to gave me the new transformers for FREE.Just to make me forget the way you handle our deal.Or you'll mount my old transformers on brand new chassis BY NEXT WEEK and I'll pay $265 ONLY after I'll received my amps and check them. Still hope you'll wake up and prove you're a gentleman which will treat equal everybody no matter the final value bill. regards Marius I am sorry but my business has to stay profitable, and this has been more trouble and time consuming as well, I have obligations to keep orders going or I will have to close it. You keep making more demands and it is getting to be more trouble than I can afford. This is something I did not want to do in the first place and you do not realize I have more customers whom I also have to honor. In the future I will not try to modify a customers unit to make the cosmetics look newer and since you where not the original customer anyway, I do not understand why you are upset with me in the first place! I was only trying to do you a favor and now it is totally out of hand. As a result I will not charge you for the service, even though I have to pay someone to do this. I do not want to do business with you again! This has nothing to do on where you live, I honor my Canadian customers as much as any American, after all we all live on one planet! Dear George, Honest,when do you think I'll have these amps back to me? Are 4 weeks since arrived to you.Just let me know the date,please. Marius Marius, I hope to get them in the mail by the end of next week. The silk screener called and I going to pick them up tomorrow, then this Monday the assembler will be back to assemble the final unit. After that I will run them a couple of days to make sure they are okay, then they with be boxed up and shipped. Hello,anybody there? Called you but no answer...email you but no answer....WE START THIS ALL OVER AGAIN,GEORGE??? What reason for delay you have this time for me? Marius Marius, My web site has been moved and I am now getting my e-mails. Your 3.5 have been switched but I have been dealing with the web switch for the last few days so I have not tested them out yet. Today I have to go to work in a couple of hours, Monday and Tuesday I have to get product out so it looks like they should go back sometime from Tuesday, Wednesday or Thursday. Best, George So,you gain another week? Fine,wondering if will be the last one or the last delay for me? I would really appreciate a track nr for my package same day you'll ship. Marius Dear Marius, The amps are done but I have had an accident, I burned my face and I go into surgery tomorrow. I do not have anyone else who can check out your amplifiers that I can trust. If I send these back via US Mail to save cost to you, they do not provide tracking numbers for shipments out of the country. I hope to recover fairly quick and get these out maybe this week, baring complications, thank you. Best, George Dear George, Can you offer me a surprise and have my amps back to me before Eastern? Marius Dear Marius, The surgery is postponed till the infection goes down, I was down looking at you amps but did not have time to hook them up yet. I work tomorrow and will have about 5 hours at home, I will try to finish checking them out then I will get someone over the pack them up and send them back to you. Monday I go back to the doctors so I only have a small window and trust me I know you will not be happy no mater what I try to do for you so this will be the last I answer your e-mails. I didn't want to do this for you in the first place since you bought these used from some one else, it is not my policy to upgrade the looks for customers unless there is a very good reason. These amps were some of the first I built by hand including the chassis are far rarer than the lettered ones I have made now. The chassis I have for you are not matched, I paid some one the letter a different chassis to match but that failed, they were horrible. So I went with the slightly different ones as it would cost me more not to try to have someone put the parts back into the original chassis which were damage in removing the parts. So there is no way to win you as a customer and I would not want to do anymore business with you anyway. You distort and I my option use lying as a way of trying to get your way, I have no place for the problems you cause by you accusations and demands to drop my business and only serve your needs. So I want to make sure these work and once I am satisfied they are correct, they are yours, good day sir. George I can believed my eyes what I read here...What kind of "person" you are? I LIAR AND A CROOK... YOU LIED ME ALL THESE WEEKS...You full with me after keeping my amps for 2 moths? I send to you a perfect matched pair without lettering and now I get different amps with lettering???Why did you did this to me? Why all these cheap excuses? Are you saying you're not able anymore to built and sell your oldest model WPA-3.5 amps? Where the *** are your painters or the peoples who built these chassis for you? You don't have any respect for customers.Every audio builder stay behind his own merchandise no matter how old are the units or if is for a first buyer or second one.Customer order and pays for the job.Now that you offer to do this free of charge it does not give you the right to do a miserable job and laughing at customers.I was willing to pay the price you ask only to finish the job but you back up and have no honour.Listen again you ***,I want my amps back in a better condition not worse after waiting such a long time....If you're idiot and can't do the job I ask,then you'll pay me right away $700 US plus %3 Paypal fee and keep for you those ******* amps or I would make it public this lousy deal every where and believe me,won't be a good publicity for you!!! You better start doing something else.Wait ASAP for my money.....my Paypal account is mpetrovici@rogers.com MORON !!! Dear Marius, I need you correct mailing address, Thank you. Best, George Did you sent my amps? Your amps are done, I have someone coming in to get shipments out and I will send your amps back then. George what are you doing man? Think is enough ....I want my amps back ASAP. You treat me very bad and rude. mARIUS, YOU ARE RIGHT I HAVE BEEN VERY BAD AND RUDE TO YOU. I SHOULD OF NEVER FELT COMPASSION TO HELP YOU OUT, I AM SORRY. the AMPS WENT OUT TODAY, I FINALLY GOT MY EX-WIFE HELP GET MY SHIPMENTS DONE. I ALSO SENT BACK THE OLD CHASSIS, I SHOULD OF CHECKED BEFORE MY ASSEMBLER STARTED TO TEAR THEM DOWN. they WERE THE FOUR 3.5 BUILT, I HAVE THE FIRST SET, I STILL USE THEM MYSELF, IF I HAD SEEN THE SERIAL NUMBER I MAY OF BOUGHT THESE BACK FROM YOU, BUT TO LATE. I DID REPAIR ONE OF THE AMPS, IT HAD A OPEN ELECTROLYTIC SO I FIXED IT AS WELL.!!!! you OWE ME NOTHING, GOOD BYE. _____________________ George What courier service did you use,please? Ground with track nr or not? I used the USPS, it saves duty fees, you shouldn't have to pay any customs as they went back as customer repairs, no charge. There is tracking through the customs slips, first one is customs number CP925599514US and the second one is CP9255600305US, this one contains the old chassis. The first number contains your amplifiers. After all this,do you honest recommend me to sell these amps or will work free of trouble for years to come? I mean,could I hope to be a high tech quality job or just something which reflect your feeling for me and will sing same as bad they look??? Is hard for me after all this to know how to look at...... I don't think I will comment as for your idea on what to do, there was a defective cap in one amp, yet they still work. As to reliability, I don't think there is another product that could beat these, I planned to see these still working after I'm dead and gone. George,just find out you sent this package economy.....which will take 4-6 weeks.Why in the hell you did not check with me before sending ? After keeping these for 2 months you did this to me? I would paid for a faster shipping,you moron.I sent these amps to you on Feb. 13 and will have them back at the beginning of June??? !!!cheap since begining of post!!! I really don't understand you...YOU'RE COMPLETELY INSANE AND UNTRUSTING IDIOT!!! I was think you have some decency to sent at least regular.... I NEVER MET IN MY WHOLE LIFE SUCH A POOR SERVICE AND A CROOK LIKE YOU !!!! Dear Marius, Never write me again, you caused this by your insane demands, you reap what you sow. You have guts you moron.I make insane demands???? You call insane demands when customer ask you to return products in time? How would you expect a customers treat you when all you offer are excuses and lies? I could understand some problems could show up in any deal but you should communicate with other part and not keep the product for 2 months and return it in same or worst condition.Learn to be a man of word first and keep your words despite any problems may show up.You want happy customers?? You have to be a honourable person...but you're not.. just a cheap small idiot. ADIOS Despite your foul words, you made up the return dates, not me, I told you it would be at least three weeks before I could even look at your stuff, which you do not recall. I run a business of manufacturing and that takes top billing, not some over demanding person who didn't even buy the product from me in the first place. You lost your position very early on with your foul mouth and yes I could of sent it to you by air. _______________________________________________________ After trying to resolve this problem by offering an additional charge for new tube sockets, which you ignored, how could I expect you to offer to pay extra for the shipping? !!!Ignored!!!! ________________________________________________________ You were demanding the stuff to be shipped right away and I was standing in the post office paying with my own money to get your stuff out of my hair for once and for all. As I said, "You reap what you sow!" Good day, Marius! A liar should have memory...Only after you had received my amps you mention 3 weeks to have the job done.Now you twist your own words and claim 3 weeks before even look at my amps.You're a disgrace for audio community..Like I say..never met such a poor service in my life.But I will take care and let everybody knows about this lousy deal.Don't worry,my "friend" !!! You start telling everyone, I will point out I never charged you, I have our e-mails and I will post them to show the truth to all. I am tried of your words. I did tell you I was receiving some chassis in about a week and I did tell you it would be at least three weeks before I could look at your conversion. I did not know you had such an old unit and the parts do not fit the newer chassis, so feel free to do whatever you want but I will not stand still. You, my friend, made all the demands and my biggest sin was saying okay to your first demand, you have taught me a very valuable lesson, I will never offer to upgrade any other chassis unit for anyone. You got free service, I was adding up what it cost me, I paid my assembler 15 hours @ $45, the silk screener $40 for a job I could not use, postage of $30 some dollars plus time dealing with all your demands costing several hours. A good lesson indeed, take your equipment and sell it, I will never accept anything from you for service again. I have to admit, you take the cake for bad customers, in over ten years I never had to respond as I have to you, God! Can't believe you're so stupid and don't understand my point here..or do you have any drinking problems? From the first moment we agreed for a price including new chassis,tube sockets and ship charge back to me for a total of $265usd.You're right I get free service but in exchange of what?? I received the amps today and God knows how they look!!! Man,2 different chassis,not only different colour but also different sizes,one taller than the other one and different speaker connection.How could you do this to me,man?? You call this a professional job? I don't understand your standards.....actually I don't think you have any standards.Have one single question for you.Do you really think someone will pay any money for these pair of amps? Why in the hell you did not sent back the amps to me without to touch them instead of doing this lousy job?? This is outrageous,man!!! I trust in you when I sent these to you and got what?? No respect from you...I would prefer to pay and have a clean job instead of this free of charge job. I do my best to understand you but I am sorry I can't.I was not your enemy...just a simple customers willing to match these amps with my WLA-12A preamp.I admit I lost my temper and I was rude with you but you have no right doing this to me,man. Where in the heck did you find these chassis? In the garbage bin? Don't understand why was hard for you to order 2 brand new chassis as per my request and have everything moved? Why did you prefer to offer me this level of low quality instead of having one happy customer??? Can't believe you're so stupid and don't understand my point here..or do you have any drinking problems?

[chops]

Frankly, I just couldn't accept having a mismatched pair returned to me. It's a real shame the mono blocs are the real victim here. In these circumstances I would have contacted Mr. Wright again, and negotiated a solution. If the mono blocs had to go back, so be it. Actually there's been no suggestion from MICA that he wasn't prepared to pay...

MICA may have to organise a loan amplifier while Mr. Wright sorts the problem out.

There's no cost effective solution here. Because the amplifiers, in my view, are worth next to nothing now.

You know, there's still no real proof that the amplifiers actually look the way that MICA is claiming. He could just be saying that to get people all riled up and against Mr Wright. There might be some discrepancies between the two amps, but probably not THAT noticable unless you really look close.

I don't know Mr Wright, never met him, never spoke with him, never really heard anything about him until this thread or anything, but I very seriously doubt he would let a pair of amplifiers that he designed and built leave his shop in that kind of condition, no matter who the owner was. I just find that extremely difficult to believe.

[scott0527]

Frankly, I just couldn't accept having a mismatched pair returned to me. It's a real shame the mono blocs are the real victim here. In these circumstances I would have contacted Mr. Wright again, and negotiated a solution. If the mono blocs had to go back, so be it. Actually there's been no suggestion from MICA that he wasn't prepared to pay...

MICA may have to organise a loan amplifier while Mr. Wright sorts the problem out.

There's no cost effective solution here. Because the amplifiers, in my view, are worth next to nothing now.

You know, there's still no real proof that the amplifiers actually look the way that MICA is claiming. He could just be saying that to get people all riled up and against Mr Wright. There might be some discrepancies between the two amps, but probably not THAT noticable unless you really look close.

I don't know Mr Wright, never met him, never spoke with him, never really heard anything about him until this thread or anything, but I very seriously doubt he would let a pair of amplifiers that he designed and built leave his shop in that kind of condition, no matter who the owner was. I just find that extremely difficult to believe.

If this is in fact Daria's classified, they do look mismatched. I still go back to fact that if Daria has such strong concern for conducting business in an ethical manner, how come he fails to mention any of the mis-matching features in his classified?

http://www.canuckaudiomart.com/details/30141-wright_sound_2a3_mono_amps.

[Clarence]

in the words of the great artie lang....

WAAAHHHHAAA WAHHHHHHHAAAAAAAA.....

This thread is doomed........

[pauln]

[if this is in fact Daria's classified, they do look mismatched. I still go back to fact that if Daria has such strong concern for conducting business in an ethical manner, how come he fails to mention any of the mis-matching features in his classified?

http://www.canuckaudiomart.com/details/30141-wright_sound_2a3_mono_amps.

Look at his interesting user feedback, then look at the dates...

[jt1stcav]

I'm almost certain it's his classified ad (you can tell from the bad grammer). He's obviously deceiving any potential buyers by omitting the fact that the chassis aren't perfectly matched. He's not going to mention that fact for fear of not being able to make the most profit. I feel sorry for any buyer that has to deal with Marius...it's a shame they can't be warned beforehand...

[joshnich]

No I havent read all of the posts here. It appears that most who sympathaize with this guy have not had personal dealings with G. Wright. I personally do not believe his amps are now mismatched. In fact I think he is full of you know what. I have dealt with George as many other here have. He is honest and straight forward. I will lean towards the side that I have personal experience with - even if he does build Set amps. He also builds one heck of a phono stage!

Josh

[johnyholiday]

The Devil has smiled, his black tooth grin, Upon Daria's

fluffyrainbowskittles,an is pleased with Daria's soul, an how easy it

was to convert,with dead lifless manmade objects

[edwinr]

...It appears that most who sympathaize with this guy have not had personal dealings with G. Wright. I personally do not believe his amps are now mismatched...

I certainly don't 'sympathise' with MICA. By all accounts the facts appear to support the assertion that MICA sent two matching mono blocs to Mr. Wright and received two mismatched mono blocs in return. Regardless of what went on between the two (and they are equally to blame), MICA is entitled to have his two mono blocs returned. Equally Mr. Wright is entitled to be paid for his work. MICA has to learn patience, and Mr. Wright need to be more particular about what work he takes on.