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  1. I am sorry to hear this, Dave was one of the good guys! He will be missed. All my condolences to his family and friends. -Tom
  2. If one is interested, then I think you are better off reading what has been posted on the forum. Although I am glad the vendor did take the time to gather up some of the information
  3. Well, congratulations on the upcoming Jubilees. I am sure that they will sound great. If they sound better than the current version, then that will be quite an achievement. Just a couple of clarifications however regarding the current Jubilees (you referred to as the "pro" version). As of the 3rd week of April you could still buy them. The basic version (no veneer and no DSP) was available and selling in the mid $8K region (including shipping but sales tax depended on other things). The price mentioned above of being near $20K was a bit of salesmanship IMHO. That package, offered by just one of the dealers, included a DSP worth about $1200 and a limited amount of veneer (hardly a full cosmetic upgrade). I'll let you do the arithmetic. Finally, this rumor of them not being available (first posted back at the beginning of Feb) was fiction. We are now in June and perhaps it is now true, but it certainly was not in Feb, March, and April (a few of us checked with other dealers as recently as the 3rd week of April and we compared our notes). When the Jubilees first came out (about 15 years ago, or so) they were in the $7K-ish region. Many of us purchased them and I think all of us have been very happy with them. In all those years the price has only gone up about 15%. BTW, I doubt that Klipsch Inc was losing money on these over all those years. Predictably, many of us have upgraded drivers on the tweeter since this is our nature. However I doubt that many of us had major objections to their sound. Jubilee owners tend to be pretty content. Even in stock form, they sound quite good. That is a real testament to their designer. I find the bass to be more than adequate for music (perhaps not for home theater) and I hear nothing wrong with the top end (but maybe my ears are getting old) I am done with my rant. -Tom
  4. This kind of thinking is what I don't understand. Let's use an analogy. If you are interested in buying a new car, do you only go to a single dealership, or do you shop at several dealerships? If one dealer tells you this a "special price and just for you ....", do you really believe them? I would take all these claims floating around about price and availability with a huge grain of salt. C'mon we have all been around the block before .... haven't we?
  5. I understand the desire to get the tweeter at ear level. However, please keep in mind that there is a penalty of diminished low frequency response (especially when it more than just a few inches off the floor). Have you tried a mock up first and listened to them? Was the bass still acceptable? If you are able to measure them outside (with and without a mock riser), the results will be fairly obvious (the measurement is difficult to do indoors). Good luck, -Tom
  6. Bob Crites discussed this very issue along with some others. He was able to make the necessary measurements and make an appropriate choice for the replacements. If someone was interested they could search the threads (I am not that someone) and get the details. Just stepping back for a moment ... c'mon guys, these are simple capacitors in straight forward circuits. This is not rocket science.
  7. I am not sure where to begin ....... Old capacitors have probably not appreciably drifted off spec in terms of capacitance. What folks worry about with old capacitors is ESR (Equivalent series resistance). This requires more than an inexpensive volt meter. The above post does not really address the issue at hand. In fact it is just noise in the discussion. While I am at it ... there is this myth being perpetuated (IMHO), that Bob Crites was unaware of how to measure and specify capacitor parts (functionality -- including acceptable levels of ESR). This is not true. In fact Bob had a nice post about how he was able to "work backwards" and figure out the functionality of how the original parts would have performed and measured. His argument was convincing. While I am still at it ... no one has fresh OEM capacitors that were used in some of the older Heritage products. Now, a vendor may claim that their products meets those specs, but is it fair to claim they are actually OEM parts? Should folks blindly repeat the mantra that these, and these only, are "true OEM parts". I think some of you folks are victims of advertising. IMO, I would not hesitate to use the either the Crites replacements (or the JEM replacements), but let's be aware of the sales pitch .... -Tom
  8. Kevin Klipsch, Please PM me if the Xilica XD4080 is still for sale. I would have PM'ed, but you do not have it enabled. Thanks, -Tom
  9. I think you are off target on this one. In fact, I really can't figure out where your comments are coming from. Granted, there are copies out there that are not very good. There are also copies that are pretty good and some that are remarkably good. The cost for parts alone would be shy of $3k, if you can get them. If you start making substitutions, then the result may become severely compromised.
  10. I'm glad it has worked for you. I still don't comprehend how a youtube video would help someone appreciate the differences between speaker systems costing thousands of dollars. In my world, especially if I was going to buy them, I would need to hear them in person .... not via youtube
  11. I am sure that you knew ahead of time that a "demo" of a couple of systems on youtube was going to be problematic at best. The notion of any sort of "demo" on youtube actually leading to a sale is far-fetched. Would you buy a car that way?. So, it sounds like this caused you a load of grief. Why did you bother to do it to begin with? You had to have seen it coming.
  12. I am not the point of contact on this issue. However ........ as of April 2021, Jubilees are available and at a price far less than what is being floated around. I only bring this up because folks in this thread and others have been discussing fairly expensive ways to improve their systems (fancy electronics etc). My contention is that for this kind of money you are now in the ballpark for buying Jubilees. My opinion is that Jubilees would truly be a significant improvement, especially when compared to fancy electronics etc. The new "new Jubilee" (not yet released) sounds exciting, but the price (according to rumors) puts it well out of range for me. I apologize to the OP for side-tracking his thread. -Tom
  13. VDS, Congratulations on you new arrivals. If I may ask, and I am just snooping, where did you buy these from? If you would rather not say, that is fine. Congratulations again ! It seems a shame to take power tools to them, but I understand your goal. Good luck, -Tom
  14. This figure of $20,000 for a pair of Klipsch Jubilees is inaccurate. In fact, it is not even close. I think those of you who keep repeating it should do some homework first. You are unwittingly scaring off potential buyers of a fantastic product. I am trying to say this in a friendly way, but I have become tired of this (unintended) misinformation that keeps being repeated. If folks want to buy Klipsch Jubilees, they are within reach. -Tom
  15. Well, a few things are being ignored in this discussion. First, "good design" will frequently result in a better system than "good parts". Second, the price is important. Let me say that again, the price is important. Well chosen upgraded parts (according to the system design) will cost far less than the price of $6000 for the new Cornwall IV's. Will it sound better? If it is good design, it just might. Personally, if you are going to spend that amount of money, you are only a few grand away for something that is truly a step up. Of course, that would be the Klipsch Jubilees. Wait, I just forgot about my second point that price is important. My bad ..... -Tom
  16. Simple question, simple answer. Get some Klipsch Jubilees.
  17. I think that is exactly what was going on. The Jubilee sounded like it was going through a low pass filter. My guess is that the mic was pointed directly at the Klipschorn (and getting a full bandwidth signal). I guess you need to listen to them in person ....
  18. Perhaps this is a typo. Did you really mean "EMI distortion" ?
  19. Dean, It is good to see you posting again. Jubilees are within reach. That never changed. As far as I can tell, one of the vendors posted (via the forum and Facebook) that the availability of Jubilees was disappearing ("this is your last chance" sort of thing) and that you had to buy a certain package that they offered. Although more recently, the vendor has tried to backtrack on what they originally claimed, but the rumor mill was already in progress. Keep in mind that my interpretation of the history may have some inaccuracies and I am not interested in arguing. I checked last week (of course, with a different vendor that I have dealt with). You can still buy the Jubilees for a price that you and I were accustomed to (roughly, since taxes on internet sales are in a state of flux). So, yes my guesstimate of less than 10 grand to get you up and running (Jubilees, DSP and an extra 2 channel amplifier) is accurate. Personally, I thought, and still think, that Jubilees are an incredible deal. The value (performance per dollar) is astounding. -Tom
  20. Sounds like you got a good deal. I used to own Klipschorns (AA - 1982) and enjoyed them immensely. It was later on that I got Jubilees
  21. Some of you folks have strange notions. For the prices you guys are talking about you can get a pair of Jubilees (No, it won't have the over-priced veneer), a DSP unit (No, it won't be the best but it will be good enough) and a second amplifier (Again, not the best but good enough). Add it all up and it will be less than 10 grand. Believe me, you will have exceptional sound. Hands down! Period ! etc .... Quite possibly the best sound you have ever heard. That is something to consider
  22. This will not be a popular opinion, but ...... If you want to bring your speakers up by 4 notches, then ..... do not buy a new amplifier ...... buy better speakers. The differences will be astounding, especially if you spend some effort on speaker placement (toe-in, spacing, distance for the walls, listener location etc)
  23. It is only worth $35K, if someone is willing to pay 35K.
  24. Are the Horns placed tightly in the corners? The room is quite large, the remedy could be Klipsch Jubilees. Keep in mind, that is my remedy for most things, -Tom
  25. Kevin Klipsch, the PM feature on your profile needs to be turned on. It would also be useful if your profile included your location.
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