Dflip Posted September 14, 2010 Share Posted September 14, 2010 Igor remains a Cat 4 hurricane for the next three days and then will drop to a strong Cat. 2. It's still a bit away from Bermuda, but I wouldn't be planning a trip there on the Sunday. There is still a wide margin of error, but it definitely will get rain, winds and maybe a significant strike. The Yucatan Pennisula and adjacent Central American countries, in the mountainous regions are going to have to watch out for mudslides which will be a much more significant risk than winds from storm 1. HURRICANE IGOR DISCUSSION NUMBER 25NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL AL112010500 AM AST TUE SEP 14 2010ENHANCED INFRARED SATELLITE IMAGES SHOW THAT THE CLOUD TOPSSURROUNDING THE EYE OF THE HURRICANE HAVE WARMED A LITTLE...ANDDVORAK DATA T-NUMBERS FROM BOTH TAFB AND SAB HAVE DECREASED. THEADVISORY INTENSITY IS SET AT 115 KT WHICH IS A BLEND OF THE DVORAKCURRENT INTENSITY AND T-NUMBERS. THIS IS ALSO CLOSE TO THE LATESTOBJECTIVE DVORAK INTENSITY ESTIMATES FROM UW-CIMSS. AS STATEDEARLIER...FLUCTUATIONS IN STRENGTH DUE TO INNER CORE EVOLUTION AREPROBABLE OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS. HOWEVER...THE LARGE-SCALEATMOSPHERIC AND OCEANIC ENVIRONMENT IS LIKELY TO REMAIN QUITECONDUCIVE FOR THE MAINTENANCE OF A MAJOR HURRICANE FOR THE NEXT 48TO 72 HOURS. THEREFORE AT LEAST SLIGHT RESTRENGTHENING IS ADISTINCT POSSIBILITY. THE OFFICIAL FORECAST IS CONSISTENT WITHTHIS REASONING AND IS CLOSE TO THE LATEST INTENSITY MODEL CONSENSUSTHROUGH DAY 3 AND IS QUITE SIMILAR TO THE STATISTICAL-DYNAMICALLGEM MODEL AT DAYS 4 AND 5.SATELLITE FIXES OF THE WELL-DEFINED EYE OF IGOR INDICATE THAT THEMUCH-AWAITED TURN TOWARD THE WEST-NORTHWEST HAS OCCURRED...AND THEINITIAL MOTION IS ESTIMATED TO BE 285/7. VERY LITTLE CHANGE HASBEEN MADE TO THE NHC FORECAST TRACK ON THIS PACKAGE. WATER VAPORIMAGES AND GLOBAL MODEL INITIALIZATIONS SHOW A BROAD TROUGH JUSTEAST OF THE EASTERN U.S. SEABOARD. THE DYNAMICAL MODELS SHOW ASERIES OF SHORT WAVE TROUGHS PASSING THROUGH THIS FEATURE DURINGTHE NEXT SEVERAL DAYS. THE RESULTING WEAKNESS IN THE SUBTROPICALRIDGE SHOULD CAUSE THE HURRICANE TO GRADUALLY TURN TOWARD THENORTHWEST AND NORTH-NORTHWEST DURING THE FORECAST PERIOD. THEOFFICIAL FORECAST TRACK IS VERY CLOSE TO A CONSENSUS OF THEDYNAMICAL MODELS EXCLUDING THE U.K. MET. OFFICE TRACK...WHICH ISLOOKING MORE AND MORE LIKE A WESTERN OUTLIER.INTERESTS IN BERMUDA SHOULD NOT FOCUS ON THE 5-DAY POINT...SINCETRACK ERRORS COULD EASILY BE A FEW HUNDRED MILES AT THAT FORECASTINTERVAL. IT IS STILL TOO EARLY TO SAY WITH CERTAINTY WHETHER IGORWILL HAVE A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON THAT ISLAND.FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDSINITIAL 14/0900Z 17.9N 51.7W 115 KT 12HR VT 14/1800Z 18.4N 52.8W 115 KT 24HR VT 15/0600Z 19.4N 54.2W 115 KT 36HR VT 15/1800Z 20.5N 55.7W 120 KT 48HR VT 16/0600Z 21.7N 57.1W 120 KT 72HR VT 17/0600Z 24.4N 60.2W 115 KT 96HR VT 18/0600Z 27.5N 63.0W 100 KT120HR VT 19/0600Z 31.5N 64.5W 90 KT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted September 14, 2010 Share Posted September 14, 2010 I'll be keeping my eye on the one by the Yucatan peninsula. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallette Posted September 14, 2010 Share Posted September 14, 2010 I'll be keeping my eye on the one by the Yucatan peninsula. Me too. With the weather about to change predictability gets very dicey. That thing could wind up almost anywhere. I've seen them start down there this time of year and wind up hitting Florida. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dflip Posted September 14, 2010 Share Posted September 14, 2010 The forecast for Karl, heading for the Yucatan. TROPICAL STORM KARL DISCUSSION NUMBER 1NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL AL132010500 PM EDT TUE SEP 14 2010AN AIR FORCE RESERVE HURRICANE HUNTER AIRCRAFT INVESTIGATING THE LOWPRESSURE AREA IN THE NORTHWESTERN CARIBBEAN SEA FOUND A SMALL ANDVIGOROUS WIND/PRESSURE CENTER INSIDE THE LARGER CYCLONIC ENVELOPE.THE MAXIMUM FLIGHT-LEVEL WINDS WERE 41 KT AT LESS THAN 1500 FT JUSTEAST OF THE CENTER...AND THE SFMR ESTIMATED RELIABLE-LOOKING WINDSOF 35 KT OUTSIDE OF THE HEAVY RAIN AREAS. THE MINIMUM CENTRALPRESSURE WAS 1001 MB. BASED ON THESE DATA...THE SYSTEM IS UPGRADEDSTRAIGHT TO TROPICAL STORM KARL WITH AN INITIAL INTENSITY OF 35 KT.THE INITIAL MOTION IS 295/13. KARL IS LOCATED ON THE SOUTH SIDE OFA DEEP-LAYER RIDGE CENTERED ALONG THE NORTHERN GULF COAST. THETRACK GUIDANCE IS IN GOOD AGREEMENT THAT THE RIDGE SHOULD STEERKARL GENERALLY WEST-NORTHWESTWARD ACROSS THE YUCATAN PENINSULA INTOTHE SOUTHWESTERN GULF OF MEXICO...FOLLOWED BY A GENERAL WESTWARDMOTION TOWARD MAINLAND MEXICO. THERE IS SOME SPREAD IN THE TRACKGUIDANCE OVER THE GULF OF MEXICO...WITH SOME OF THE DYNAMICALMODELS FORECASTING A SOUTH-OF-WEST MOTION BEFORE KARL REACHES THECOAST OF MAINLAND MEXICO. THE FORECAST TRACK WILL SHOW A WESTWARDMOTION AFTER 72 HR...AND OVERALL IT LIES DOWN THE CENTER OF THEGUIDANCE ENVELOPE.KARL IS IN AN ENVIRONMENT OF LIGHT EASTERLY VERTICAL WIND SHEAR...AND THIS IS FORECAST TO PERSIST FOR THE NEXT 4-5 DAYS. THE MAJORINFLUENCE ON THE INTENSITY WILL BE LAND INTERACTION. WHILE THEINTENSITY FORECAST SHOWS KARL WITH 45-KT WINDS OVER EASTERNYUCATAN...THE STORM COULD REACH A HIGHER INTENSITY BETWEEN THE 12AND 24 HR FORECAST POINTS. OVER THE GULF OF MEXICO...KARL SHOULDRE-INTENSIFY...WITH THE SHIPS AND GFDL MODELS CALLING FOR IT TOBECOME A HURRICANE. THE INTENSITY FORECAST IS A BIT MORECONSERVATIVE DUE TO UNCERTAINTY ABOUT WHAT KIND OF STRUCTURE KARLWILL HAVE AFTER CROSSING THE YUCATAN PENINSULA. AFTER FINALLANDFALL IN MEXICO...KARL SHOULD EVENTUALLY DISSIPATE OVER THEMOUNTAINS OF CENTRAL MEXICO.FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDSINITIAL 14/2100Z 18.3N 84.2W 35 KT 12HR VT 15/0600Z 18.9N 86.0W 40 KT 24HR VT 15/1800Z 19.6N 88.1W 45 KT...INLAND 36HR VT 16/0600Z 20.4N 90.3W 30 KT...INLAND 48HR VT 16/1800Z 21.0N 92.6W 35 KT...OVER WATER 72HR VT 17/1800Z 21.5N 96.0W 55 KT 96HR VT 18/1800Z 21.5N 99.5W 30 KT...INLAND120HR VT 19/1800Z...DISSIPATED Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dflip Posted September 14, 2010 Share Posted September 14, 2010 If you go to Stormpulse.com and click clouds to the right hand side you can see what a big boy Igor is? I wouldn't want to be in Bermuda this weekend. Sort of reminds me of Dean, a Cat 5, but because it didn't hit the U.S. mainland it was less important. There appears to be the making of another one just to the southeast of Julia. The storms seem to be forming up further south right on the southwestern coast of Africa and the Atlantic Ocean than Julia and a few of the earlier ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dflip Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 Igor continues to barrel down on Bermuda. It's a very big storm and it really doesn't matter how much it misses the island given the current projections. It might miss the eye of the hurricane by a bit, that's a mild consolation. They are likely to take a very strong hit from a Cat 3 hurricane which has moved a touch to the west today. Of course it was a good Cat 4 hurricane, so it will carry with it a strong storm surge. Bermuda is not a good place to be this weekend. HURRICANE IGOR DISCUSSION NUMBER 35NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL AL112010500 PM AST THU SEP 16 2010AN AIR FORCE RESERVE HURRICANE HUNTER AIRCRAFT REACHED THE CENTER OFIGOR AROUND 1600 UTC. THE HURRICANE HUNTERS MEASURED A MINIMUMPRESSURE OF 940 MB AND MAXIMUM FLIGHT-LEVEL AND SFMR WINDS OF 130AND 98 KT...RESPECTIVELY. SINCE THAT TIME..THE CLOUD PATTERNASSOCIATED WITH IGOR HAS CHANGED LITTLE IN ORGANIZATION...ANDDVORAK T-NUMBERS REMAIN AT 5.5 FROM SAB AND TAFB. BASED UPON THEAIRCRAFT DATA AND THE LOWER SATELLITE INTENSITY ESTIMATES...THEINITIAL INTENSITY IS REDUCED TO 110 KT. THE EXTENSION OF ANUPPER-LEVEL TROUGH PASSING NORTH OF IGOR IS STILL PRODUCING ABOUT15 KT OF WESTERLY SHEAR OVER THE CYCLONE...ACCORDING TO THE LATESTUW-CIMSS ANALYSES. THE SHIPS MODEL OUTPUT SHOWS A REDUCTION IN THESHEAR WITHIN THE NEXT 12 HOURS AS THIS FEATURE MOVES AWAY...WHICHCOULD ALLOW AN OPPORTUNITY FOR SOME RE-INTENSIFICATION IN THESHORT-TERM. THE GUIDANCE INDICATES THAT IGOR WILL BE MOVING INTO ANENVIRONMENT OF GRADUALLY INCREASING SOUTHERLY TO SOUTH-SOUTHWESTERLY SHEAR IN ABOUT TWO DAYS...AND OVER COOLER WATERS BYTHE END OF THE FORECAST PERIOD. THE COMBINATION OF THESE TWOFACTORS SHOULD RESULT IN A SLOW WEAKENING BEYOND 48 HOURS...AND THENHC OFFICIAL FORECAST REFLECTS THIS. BY DAY 5...GLOBAL MODELSINDICATE THAT IGOR WILL BE AT LEAST BEGINNING TO UNDERGOEXTRATROPICAL TRANSITION.IGOR CONTINUES TO MAINTAIN ABOUT THE SAME MOTION...310/7. THEREASONING FOR THE TRACK FORECAST IS UNCHANGED. THE HURRICANE ISFORECAST TO MOVE NORTHWESTWARD AND THEN NORTH-NORTHWESTWARD WITHSOME INCREASE IN FORWARD SPEED AROUND THE WESTERN EXTENT OF ASUBTROPICAL RIDGE DURING THE NEXT 48-72 HOURS. BEYOND 72 HOURS...IGOR SHOULD BEGIN ACCELERATING WHILE TURNING NORTH AND THENNORTHEAST AHEAD OF AN APPROACHING MID-LATITUDE SHORTWAVE TROUGHMOVING THROUGH THE NORTHEAST U.S. AND CANADIAN MARITIMES. THELATEST MODEL GUIDANCE HAS SHIFTED TO THE LEFT THIS CYCLE APPARENTLYDUE TO TIMING DIFFERENCES ASSOCIATED WITH THE AFORMENTIONEDSHORTWAVE TROUGH. THE OFFICIAL NHC TRACK FORECAST HAS BEEN NUDGEDWESTWARD...FOLLOWING THE MULTI-MODEL CONSENSUS...AND LIES IN THEMIDDLE OF THE GUIDANCE ENVELOPE.FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDSINITIAL 16/2100Z 21.7N 58.1W 110 KT 12HR VT 17/0600Z 22.4N 59.2W 110 KT 24HR VT 17/1800Z 23.5N 61.0W 115 KT 36HR VT 18/0600Z 24.9N 62.7W 115 KT 48HR VT 18/1800Z 26.5N 64.0W 110 KT 72HR VT 19/1800Z 30.5N 65.5W 100 KT 96HR VT 20/1800Z 35.5N 62.5W 90 KT120HR VT 21/1800Z 42.0N 53.0W 70 KT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunburnwilly Posted September 17, 2010 Share Posted September 17, 2010 Waves for the weekend , YES ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dflip Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 Latest update on Igor. Bermuda will not be a nice place to be late Sunday/early Monday. It has a 45 mile centre and 90 mile wide hurricane winds, so the island is going to get it no matter how much the path varies from Bermuda. Another storm forming off the coast of Africa. HURRICANE IGOR DISCUSSION NUMBER 41NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL AL112010500 AM AST SAT SEP 18 2010DATA FROM THE HURRICANE HUNTER AIRCRAFT INDICATE THAT WHILE THECENTRAL PRESSURE OF IGOR HAD FALLEN TO 939 MB...THE WINDS AT FLIGHTLEVEL WERE NOT EFFICIENTLY MIXING DOWN TO THE SURFACE. THE INITIALINTENSITY IS HELD AT 95 KT BASED ON A BLEND OF THE 115 KT FLIGHT-LEVEL WIND MAXIMUM AND A MAXIMUM WIND OF 77 KT FROM THE SFMR. THEOUTFLOW IS WELL ESTABLISHED...PARTICULARLY TO THE NORTH OF THECENTER...AND THE ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITIONS APPEAR FAVORABLE FOR ALITTLE MORE STRENGTHENING OVER THE NEXT DAY OR SO BEFORE THE SHEARINCREASES. THE OFFICIAL FORECAST SHOWS A PEAK AT 105 KT IN 24HOURS AND THEN A SLOW WEAKENING THROUGH 48 HOURS. REGARDLESS OF THEDETAILS OF THE INTENSITY FORECAST...IGOR WILL BE A LARGE ANDDANGEROUS HURRICANE AS IT APPROACHES BERMUDA ON SUNDAY. WEAKENINGIS EXPECTED TO CONTINUE BEYOND 48 HOURS...AS IGOR MOVES OVER COOLERWATERS AND THE SHEAR INCREASES FURTHER. ONCE IGOR COMPLETESEXTRATROPICAL TRANSITION...IT WILL BE A LARGE AND POWERFUL CYCLONEOVER THE NORTH ATLANTIC.AFTER A SHORT TERM WOBBLE TOWARD THE WEST-NORTHWEST...THE LONG-TERMINITIAL MOTION ESTIMATE IS 310/11. IGOR IS SITUATED SOUTH OF AMID-LEVEL RIDGE EXTENDING ALONG 35N...AND THIS RIDGE IS FORECAST BYALL OF THE MODELS TO WEAKEN AS A SHORTWAVE TROUGH PROGRESSES EASTOFF THE U.S. EAST COAST IN THE NEXT DAY OR SO. IGOR WILL TURNNORTHWARD INTO THE WEAKNESS ALONG 65W ON SUNDAY AND PASS VERY NEARBERMUDA BEFORE TURNING NORTHEASTWARD ON MONDAY AHEAD OF ANOTHERSHORTWAVE TROUGH MOVING OFF THE COAST OF NORTH AMERICA. THE GLOBALMODELS SHOW THE RIDGE NORTH OF IGOR REMAINING A LITTLE STRONGERTHAN PREVIOUSLY FORECAST...AND AS A RESULT MOST OF THE GUIDANCE HASSHIFTED A LITTLE TO THE LEFT AND SLOWER THROUGH 48 HOURS. THEOFFICIAL FORECAST HAS BEEN ADJUSTED IN THIS DIRECTION...BUT REMAINSTO THE RIGHT OF MOST OF THE GUIDANCE AND A LITTLE FASTER THANTHE CONSENSUS. BEYOND 48 HOURS...THE NEW NHC FORECAST IS LARGELYAN UPDATE OF THE PREVIOUS PACKAGE...AND SHOWS IGOR ACCELERATINGTOWARD THE NORTHEAST AS IT BECOMES EXTRATROPICAL.IGOR HAS A VERY LARGE WIND FIELD...WITH A RADIUS OF MAXIMUM WINDS OFAROUND 45 NAUTICAL MILES AND HURRICANE FORCE WINDS EXTENDING OUT UPTO 90 NM FROM THE CENTER. CONDITIONS WILL BEGIN TO DETERIORATE ONBERMUDA BY TONIGHT...WELL IN ADVANCE OF THE CENTER.FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDSINITIAL 18/0900Z 25.1N 62.8W 95 KT 12HR VT 18/1800Z 26.2N 64.1W 100 KT 24HR VT 19/0600Z 27.8N 65.1W 105 KT 36HR VT 19/1800Z 29.9N 65.3W 100 KT 48HR VT 20/0600Z 32.2N 64.7W 95 KT 72HR VT 21/0600Z 38.5N 58.5W 80 KT 96HR VT 22/0600Z 47.5N 46.5W 65 KT...POST-TROP/EXTRATROP120HR VT 23/0600Z 51.5N 39.5W 55 KT...POST-TROP/EXTRATROP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groomlakearea51 Posted September 18, 2010 Author Share Posted September 18, 2010 That "area of concern" #1 bears watching as it's on a WNW track, which unless it "turns", runs it across Florida..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groomlakearea51 Posted September 20, 2010 Author Share Posted September 20, 2010 Here 'tis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groomlakearea51 Posted September 20, 2010 Author Share Posted September 20, 2010 The computer models don't help much...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groomlakearea51 Posted September 20, 2010 Author Share Posted September 20, 2010 Not really much more than expected for Igor's impact on Bermuda. Massive power outages seem to be the rule. http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE68E1T820100920 Another overview. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1313596/How-people-Bermuda-Hurricane-Igors-93mph-winds-15ft-waves.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnatnoop Posted September 20, 2010 Share Posted September 20, 2010 their effect sure is wide ranging, i heard this morning that corpus christi had over 7" of rain and look how far it it away.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallette Posted September 20, 2010 Share Posted September 20, 2010 their effect sure is wide ranging, i heard this morning that corpus christi had over 7" of rain and look how far it it away.. All the way to Houston. We've had clouds, rain, and obvious circulation now for 48 hours from it. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dflip Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 Storm 1 model plot is as follows: Kind of confusing, it either hits Belize, or kicks straight up into the gulf and the west side of Florida. Stay tuned for later updates. Lisa looks like it might be heading in the same path as many of this year's hurricanes, Bermuda. Then again it might just head out straight for the north Atlantic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dflip Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 gnatnoop and Dave: The rain in Texas is likely the remnants of Karl which died in the mountains of Mexico, inlands from Veracruz. Too far and too late to have anything to do with Igor, even though it was a big hurricane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallette Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 gnatnoop and Dave: The rain in Texas is likely the remnants of Karl which died in the mountains of Mexico, inlands from Veracruz. Too far and too late to have anything to do with Igor, even though it was a big hurricane. It was Karl I was referring to. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dflip Posted September 22, 2010 Share Posted September 22, 2010 Here is the next storm for Mexico/Texas and maybe the gulf. This one you want to watch because when it hits Central America/Mexico it may head inland or kick back out into the gulf or Caribbean? At best this is a rainmaker for the area. The alternate paths leave a lot of options open and some of them are not very good for those of you on the coast, then again it could burn itself out in the Central American mountains? Hopefully you are lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallette Posted September 23, 2010 Share Posted September 23, 2010 The movement towards the Yucatan from its present position this time of year is a no-brainer. What it does after that is beyond any computer and model on the planet, however, as the cool fronts are now beginning to roll down regularly and the general weather pattern is making its seasonal change. Place your bets, ladies and gentlemen, this one is as unpredictable at the moment as a roulette wheel. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted September 23, 2010 Share Posted September 23, 2010 And Matthew is born.............. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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