moray james Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 I looked at the home site but did not see them there. Seems to me I did see them posted on this form some time ago. I would expect that the response graphs would not tell you much as they probably look almost identical. The difference was a larger passive from the Forte to Forte ll along with the upgrade to the Tractrix mid horn while the Chorus went from reflex vents to a 15" passive and the same Tractrix mid horn.Adding vent tubes to a Chorus (around 7 inches long) is an easy woth while upgrade which can be reversed if so desired.Regards Moray James. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Chi-town Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 They are located by looking up the speaker Chorus 1 or II, Forte 1 or II, on the Klipsch website. Then download the owners manual which is available in a PDF format I believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willland Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 What happened to the "old" response graphs that Klipsch use to publish. It would be nice to see a graph for the C1 and the C2 just to compare. Here you go. http://community.klipsch.com/forums/p/103160/1041324.aspx#1041324 Then click on the pdf. links on 2nd line from top of each post. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max2 Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 They are located by looking up the speaker Chorus 1 or II, Forte 1 or II, on the Klipsch website. Then download the owners manual which is available in a PDF format I believe. What they have listed that I have seen is too small for the Chorus II. The Chorus I is not there. Well I spoke too soon. Thanks for the link willland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RT FAN Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 I own both Chorus II's and Cornwall II's and if I had to make a choice I would keep the Chorus II's. That would have been the cae even before the Crites upgrades. As mentioned earlier, room type, amplification etc all have an impact on the outcome. That my Chorus are located at my weekend house MIGHT have something to do with it. [] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gagelle Posted December 25, 2010 Author Share Posted December 25, 2010 I never imagined that my question would set off such a debate. In any case, I picked up a pair of mint Forte 1s for $425. These speakers sound incredible, surpassing anything I expected. I noticed that a problem with buying these large speakers is shipping cost. I drove 3 hours each way to get the Fortes. I can understand why some people don't want to go through the trouble of packing and shipping some of the big speakers. Living in a large city helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willland Posted December 25, 2010 Share Posted December 25, 2010 Living in a large city helps. And what large city is that? Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gagelle Posted December 25, 2010 Author Share Posted December 25, 2010 I lucked out and picked up a pair of Forte1 speakers for $425. They're in mint condition and the sound far surpasses anything I expected. I had to drive 3 hours each way to pick them up but it was definitely worth the trip. The fellow didn't want to part with them but he needed the money. I'm amazed at some of the bargains out there for used Klipsch speakers. The big problem, as I see it, is shipping. Some people simply don't want to pack and ship these big speakers. Living an a large city helps. I followed Bill's advice and bought an academy for a center channel. After getting the Fortes, my Synergy C1 sounded feeble.I just realized that I have a Klipsch addiction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gagelle Posted December 25, 2010 Author Share Posted December 25, 2010 I live in Fresno CA which is a small city. The bay area is about a 3 hour drive and LA about 4 hours, although I don't mind the drive for a good deal. It's very rare to find used Klipsch speakers in my area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max2 Posted December 27, 2010 Share Posted December 27, 2010 Frequency response comparison. Now all we need is the Cornwall added. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max2 Posted December 27, 2010 Share Posted December 27, 2010 Cornwall II vs. Chorus II Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris A Posted December 27, 2010 Share Posted December 27, 2010 I never imagined that my question would set off such a debate. Me too... [8-)] I picked up a pair of mint Forte 1s for $425.Good deal! [<)] Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gagelle Posted December 27, 2010 Author Share Posted December 27, 2010 Thanks Chris. The Fortes have such a rich, full sound that I had to upgrade my center channel speaker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max2 Posted December 28, 2010 Share Posted December 28, 2010 Wow, I was expecting some comments after the graphs were posted. Looking at these bring up a lot of questions IMO. 1. Looking at the Cornwall response it doesnt look to be as sensitive as either Chorus model. 2. The Chorus II seems to be heads and shoulders above the Cornwall II in the bass management which my ears cant confirm. 3. I wonder why Klipsch didnt try and use the updated mid out of the Chorus II when they re-released the Cornwall III ?....maybe they did...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Chi-town Posted December 28, 2010 Share Posted December 28, 2010 Klipsch put the K53 TI Driver in the Heresy III & Cornwall III along with a Tractrix horn with a titanium diaphragm. I installed these drivers and diaphragms on my 1992 forte II, after installing BC's titanium tweeter diaphragms. The combinitation is simply "Outstanding"![Y] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max2 Posted December 28, 2010 Share Posted December 28, 2010 The Heresy III and the Cornwall III still use the old style Exponential horn for the mid driver despite using the Ti diaphramed driver. There must be a reason they didnt try and incorporate the Tractix horn for the mids, especially since there would be plenty of room for it with the large Cornwall cabinet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundbound Posted December 28, 2010 Share Posted December 28, 2010 The Heresy III and the Cornwall III still use the old style Exponential horn for the mid driver despite using the Ti diaphramed driver. There must be a reason they didnt try and incorporate the Tractix horn for the mids, especially since there would be plenty of room for it with the large Cornwall cabinet. Good point. I wonder why they didn't use a Tractix horn for the mids being there's plenty of room for it with the large Cornwall cabinet? That Chorus II graph looks great! I listened to my Chorus II last night and they sounded so very nice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Chi-town Posted December 29, 2010 Share Posted December 29, 2010 I stand corrected. For some reason I was under the impression that the Tractrix was used, but I guess that would be "Heresy"! [Y] The Heresy III Tweeter is Tractrix, but the mid is exponential as well. Guess Klipsch wanted to keep as close as possible to the series 1 & 2 on the Cornwall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olorin Posted December 31, 2010 Share Posted December 31, 2010 I live in Fresno CA which is a small city. The bay area is about a 3 hour drive and LA about 4 hours, although I don't mind the drive for a good deal. It's very rare to find used Klipsch speakers in my area. Oh good, another Central Valleyan on the Forum. Welcome, and congratulations on your find! I used to own a pair of Forte 1s and they're great speakers. Now you get to find out what amp you like best with them, and discover how surprisingly well-recorded some of your CDs are, and how surprisingly badly done others are. ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gagelle Posted December 31, 2010 Author Share Posted December 31, 2010 It's good to know there are some others in the central valley. The Fortes sound incredible. They're so good that I had to make some changes to my system. I needed to get a better center channel so I bought a used Academy as Bill recommended. I also bought a used RW 12D sub. I read some great reviews about this speaker on this blog. I already have a Harman Kardon AVR 3600 which has a nice clean sound. Although lately I've discovered that many on this blog use the Emotiva products. (Their best amps are sold out until February) My only problem is my Epic CF3 speakers that I'm using in the rear. They require much more power than the Fortes. I let my receiver automatically adjust the volume levels but I may have to manually adjust the Epics. I realize that I would do much better with another pair of Fortes, but I'm attached to the Epics. They were my first Klipsch speakers and look absolutely beautiful. (I may eventually use them in another room.) Thanks for your help and advice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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