muel Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 Removing from the jewel boxes for shipping is highly suggested! Adds too much weight and they are fragile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaddeus Smith Posted January 16, 2015 Author Share Posted January 16, 2015 Removing from the jewel boxes for shipping is highly suggested! Adds too much weight and they are fragile. Agreed, however.. at what risk does that put the discs? and what about hard to source album art? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muel Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 I'd suggest the owner buys CD sleeves. The obscure or out of print album art could be included flat with the CD. Wrap it all in bubble wrap and ship. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muel Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 I buy used CD's constantly and the cases are getting broken way more often than I'd like. I'm going to start running low on my supply of extra cases soon. Those little bubble wrap envelops suck when they are barely the size of the CD. The oversized cardboard that Amazon used early on was much better but even those got smashed sometimes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaddeus Smith Posted January 16, 2015 Author Share Posted January 16, 2015 $60/carton of 1,000. Do I buy those up front and ship to customer as needed, or leave it up to the customer to decide their level of risk and merely suggest where they can acquire sleeves in bulk if they prefer to go that route? http://www.uline.com/BL_5159/Paper-CD-Envelopes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finallygotmyheresies Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 If packed tightly then they aren't at any risk. Compare this to how CR-R's are packaged, being tightly wrapped makes its even safer. I have ripped almost 2,000 cd's. iTunes finds far less than 50% of the covers for me so I gotta search for the rest. I find almost all of them on Amazon but for a few imports I got in Japan I had to go to Google and search images until I found the cover. Unfortunately some of those are too tiny and become badly pixelated when used as CD art on iTunes. So for those I just picked a image that featured the band and called it good. If I were you I'd only put a guarantee on the music. The cover art is a nice bonus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaddeus Smith Posted January 16, 2015 Author Share Posted January 16, 2015 If I were you I'd only put a guarantee on the music. The cover art is a nice bonus which is why i'd like to have the album art - i can always scan at a high res, crop, and include. there's plenty of places that do this already, so I'm trying to position myself as the DeanG of library modernization. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muel Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 (edited) Customers decide level of risk ?! Usually they don't want to pay for anything such as insurance and want you to assume all the risk and liability. They need to provide the packaging. You could also suggest empty spindles http://www.amazon.com/EMPTY-CAKE-SPINDLE-100-DISCS/dp/B0089Y6WPG I really think tagging is important... it has to be right. I'd suggest USB flash drives for smaller orders. Don't sell anything but your service. It is a real hassle to deal with at tax time otherwise. Like I said, I've thought about this too a bit. Edited January 16, 2015 by muel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finallygotmyheresies Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 You could also suggest empty spindles http://www.amazon.com/EMPTY-CAKE-SPINDLE-100-DISCS/dp/B0089Y6WPG I would have used these if they had been available at the time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaddeus Smith Posted January 16, 2015 Author Share Posted January 16, 2015 Customers decide level of risk ?! Usually they don't want to pay for anything such as insurance and want you to assume all the risk and liability. They need to provide the packaging. You could also suggest empty spindles http://www.amazon.com/EMPTY-CAKE-SPINDLE-100-DISCS/dp/B0089Y6WPG I really think tagging is important... it has to be right. I'd suggest USB flash drives for smaller orders. Don't sell anything but your service. It is a real hassle to deal with at tax time otherwise. Like I said, I've thought about this too a bit. yes, leave it up to the customer if they want to go through the effort of decasing or not. they provide the initial packaging, shipping method, and insurance levels. i'll match and an indemnity clause covers the rest. absolutely on tagging. once again a strong case for the original CD inserts - i can manually insert all of the information if necessary.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaddeus Smith Posted January 16, 2015 Author Share Posted January 16, 2015 in the scenario of sending caseless CD's.. how much hassle would it be to you as a customer if I run through the batch and then request you send inserts for any CD's that had insufficient tag data and/or album art? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USNRET Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 (edited) Most of my CDs do not have inserts as years ago I loaded them in 10 disc carts for a Sony player and discarded the cases. Other folks may be missing those as well. Edited January 16, 2015 by USNRET Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybob Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 (edited) in the scenario of sending caseless CD's.. how much hassle would it be to you as a customer if I run through the batch and then request you send inserts for any CD's that had insufficient tag data and/or album art? Customer could send that info for themselves online if notified?> Generic ID'ing may could come into play if customer not responsive to request. Edited January 16, 2015 by billybob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaddeus Smith Posted January 16, 2015 Author Share Posted January 16, 2015 All good points. Please send me a PM if you'd like to do a sample batch of 25 discs to help me vett the process. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaddeus Smith Posted January 17, 2015 Author Share Posted January 17, 2015 domain name acquired. suitable ripping server being acquired. suitable legal docs are being created. i'm going to do this. thanks for bouncing around ideas and providing input guys. if 2-3 of you would like to try out a batch of 25 discs to help me vett the process for the cost of shipping, please shoot me a PM. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Thaddeus Smith Posted January 17, 2015 Author Share Posted January 17, 2015 thanks guys! Best of luck. Don't forget to check into local business requirements if applicable. Business/Merchants license, sales tax number, etc.. yessir! working out those details now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigStewMan Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 Michael--I wish you tons of success and enjoyment doing it. Please post a photo of your first dollar earned. Steve 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 Is there any copyright concern about recording for money bla bla?? I'm not profiting from the music or redistributing the files in any fashion. You own the CD's and are permitted to have archival copies in your possession as long as you own the CD's. You're only paying for labor. Makes sense to me. Good idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators dtel Posted January 17, 2015 Moderators Share Posted January 17, 2015 (edited) I wish you well, it does sound like a lot of work, but anything worth while usually is. You know as a service you could always store everything on a hard drive you keep as an "off site backup storage" for customers. Snarky's Cloud Edited January 17, 2015 by dtel 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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