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My Receiver Needs to Go Away!


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I have a 2 year old Sony Str-D840 in my living room, it is going to get put out to pasture - kinda like the "PC Load Letter" Laser Printer from the Office Space movie.

<Deep Breaths>

 

So I'm going to be looking for her replacement.  I am considering moving away from the receiver setup since I am starting over.  My question is:

What pre-amp / amp setup should I be looking for? 

It will be used for 75% home theater and 25% music.

It needs to have a remote control and hdmi ports.

Oh yea, and be under $500.

 

Simple, yes?

 

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You will have a really hard time trying to locate a processor and 5 + channel amplifier for $500, especially modern processors. You would be much better off buying a couple year old, refurbished Marantz, Yamaha or Denon receiver off accessories4less.com

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I see the UPA-500 and UPA-700 amps come up for sale quite often from Emotiva and they go for a fair price. Many times they are offered on Ebay under their shop name jadedesign. You can pick up some steals there as many are factory refreshed with warranties. Lots of affordable pre/pros too. The UMC-1 or USP-1 may work for you. The Emotiva forums have quite a few items listed for sale too. I personally lean towards separates any time I can or if I have enough rack room. Good luck!

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You will have a really hard time trying to locate a processor and 5 + channel amplifier for $500

That was my point.  The original post seemed like you were looking for a dedicated pre / pro.  A 200 x 5 amp will often run you more than $500 alone, even when buying used.

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From what I've read, it seems the amp installed in the receiver is the weak link musically.

Keep in mind, the amp itself typically doesn't effect the sound.  I've owned four different 200wpc amps and I was not able to hear a difference between them.  IMO, the preamp makes much more of a difference in how it sounds musically.  Definitely nothing wrong with a quality receiver, even for music.

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IMO, the preamp makes much more of a difference in how it sounds musically.

 

So true Youthman!

 

 

Yes and maybe yes. :o   While the preamp does contribute more to the sound "signature", a good quality amp sure helps with transients, dynamics, and soundstage, which adds to the overall sound presentation. :D  

 

Bill

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You stated that this would be 75% HT, yet your looking for something that will make the other 25% sound better?? That seems bassackwards to me. I think either Marantz, Denon or Pioneer would certainly be a substantial upgrade from your Sony. I've never liked Sony receivers, but like so many things in life, that's a personal preference. Honestly I've run separates and receivers, and unless your using really power hungry speakers, external amps are overkill. Now, a separate preamp, can make a difference; however, if this is mostly for HT, I don't think it matters. I would look for either a used receiver from Marantz, Denon or Pioneer, or wait till you can spend a few grand on a nice 7 channel amp and modern processor.

Good luck

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While the preamp does contribute more to the sound "signature", a good quality amp sure helps with transients, dynamics, and soundstage, which adds to the overall sound presentation. :D

That is true.  I was thinking of sound between various amps.  I do recall when I added a power amp that I did get more bottom end, slightly better separation but it was not night and day difference for sure.

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If you are looking for a power packed receiver see if you can find a Sherbourn SR-120. Another forum member is in talks to acquire one now and from my signature you an see how much I like them. True power and great on board decoder. I have yet to find a receiver that parallels this one. By the way, they sell  used for $400-$500 which is a steal. Most are still under the 5 or 10 yr warranty that was offered depending on when it was purchased too!

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I have a Yamaha RX V571 that I've been using--Lot's of Bells and Whistles

and it a very nice unit- 7 channel and that stuff.

 

So a Month ago I swapped out my older Harman Kardon 1565

Only 5 Channel--- not so many Bells and Whistles as the Yamaha.

 

The Harman Kardon sounds soooo much better than the Yamaha,

at least in our set-up. Made the speakers sound more Dynamic

and lively.

 

With the Yamaha--all the sounds are there--but to me not as dynamic.

 

So I chose-Less Bells and Whistles and went for the sound.

My unit is older and not the new digital units they sell.

It actually has a transformer in it-go figure.

I got a new one on Amazon--so I have a Spare--for 275.

 

Good Luck

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and unless your using really power hungry speakers, external amps are overkill

 

I prefer the term headroom.  Before you poo poo external amps, there's a lot that needs to be considered.  Size of the room, efficiency of the speakers, listening levels, seated distance from speakers, crossover point and what your transient peaks will be (to name a few).

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My unit is older and not the new digital units they sell.

 

Makes perfect sense.  Most of the older units have better capacitance and deliver more current on demand than the newer receivers.  A 60wpc integrated amp from the 70's will blow a new 100wpc receiver out of the water in sound quality and dynamics.

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AVR's don't have to be a weak link when it comes to music.  Pioneer, Yamaha, Denon and others all make some good avr's.  Just stay away from the entry level avr and refurbished or 1 year old can be found sold like a new item with a warranty.

I agree.  My Pioneer Elite has Sabre 32 DAC's.  That is top of the line stuff.  My music on vinyl and any other source is amazing...in my opinion.  That..and I have Klipsch speakers, sooooo  BOOM!

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