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Some basic Scott 299C Questions

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I have the RF 7 II's and my tube amp is usually under 2 or 3 watts for my normal listening level.  The 2 ch system does not use a sub. No problem with bass heavy music.:D  I sit around 18 ft. from the speakers.  Jim brought his 22 watts Ampsound tube amp to my gtg last Oct. and it was plenty loud for everyone.

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In an average size room, listening at reasonable sound levels, 20wpc of tube power is ample for the RF-7II.   You can see in my post above the list of tube amps that I use with my RF-7II.   Even my 8wpc Inspire “Fire Bottle” SE Stereo Tube Amplifier delivers satisfying volume levels.

 

OTOH, I have no experience with huge rooms, or listening at “ear-bleed” levels.

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Severe cosmetic flaws can not be easily, inexpensively and in many cases fixed at all... I've rebuilt thousands of vintages pieces and rarely have to replace controls and switches to achieve great results.....

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On 10/4/2017 at 8:05 PM, tube fanatic said:

 

Now can we get back to the OP's question and help him to choose an appropriate tube amp?

 

 

Maynard 

 

Actually, everybody has helped a huge amount!  And I appreciate the patience and information from everybody, it did factor into my decision.  Hopefully I did OK.

 

First, it was interesting from dirtmudd about the calculations of the Scott amps in today's dollars, I hadn't really thought about that aspect.

 

There was another problem I kept thinking about, and that is how so many of the tube amps are <10 watts, some even at 2 watts.  I saw the thread from Maynard:  https://community.klipsch.com/index.php?/topic/170414-who-wants-to-measure-how-much-power-voltage-is-really-needed/&

Now, of course, I don't understand 95% of it, but derrickdj1's comment too, "I have the RF 7 II's and my tube amp is usually under 2 or 3 watts for my normal listening level."  Also, and of course I don't understand it, some say watts from a tube amp are more efficient at actually driving the speaker than the solid state amp.  And many are saying that the first watt is the most important.  So I did finally accept that I didn't need 100 or more wpc, especially with the efficient Klipsch speakers.  The weird thing though is I thought somewhere somebody had said if the speaker is underpowered it could be damaged, so maybe somebody could clarify that at some point.

 

And, the debate about older but rebuilt vs. new with the warranty was also factored in.  In the end, it is interesting that but for a few seconds, I might have ended up with that 299C which was several decades old, but restored.

 

So it turned out that I found a used Decware SE34I.5 (Rachael model) within the price range and bought that.  Before I got it he let me listen to it with his system, and it sounded excellent.  Of course, I'm thinking the rest of his setup didn't hurt, as he had everything top of the line and in perfect condition.  I'm not sure about the brand of speakers, but they're supposed to be mighty expensive ones.  He turned out to be a great guy too, either he took pity on a non-expert like me, or he's just happy to help everybody.  One of the factors too is that Decware gives a lifetime warranty, although I'll have to pay a bit to transfer it to me, which I'm waiting on until it becomes necessary.  The guy I bought it from said he didn't worry about any warranty, since the quality was so spectacular.

 

So I hope I made a good choice, I hope I didn't pay too much, and I hope it will last a mighty long time.

 

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21 hours ago, ksquared said:

 

Actually, everybody has helped a huge amount!  And I appreciate the patience and information from everybody, it did factor into my decision.  Hopefully I did OK.

 

First, it was interesting from dirtmudd about the calculations of the Scott amps in today's dollars, I hadn't really thought about that aspect.

 

There was another problem I kept thinking about, and that is how so many of the tube amps are <10 watts, some even at 2 watts.  I saw the thread from Maynard:  https://community.klipsch.com/index.php?/topic/170414-who-wants-to-measure-how-much-power-voltage-is-really-needed/&

Now, of course, I don't understand 95% of it, but derrickdj1's comment too, "I have the RF 7 II's and my tube amp is usually under 2 or 3 watts for my normal listening level."  Also, and of course I don't understand it, some say watts from a tube amp are more efficient at actually driving the speaker than the solid state amp.  And many are saying that the first watt is the most important.  So I did finally accept that I didn't need 100 or more wpc, especially with the efficient Klipsch speakers.  The weird thing though is I thought somewhere somebody had said if the speaker is underpowered it could be damaged, so maybe somebody could clarify that at some point.

 

And, the debate about older but rebuilt vs. new with the warranty was also factored in.  In the end, it is interesting that but for a few seconds, I might have ended up with that 299C which was several decades old, but restored.

 

So it turned out that I found a used Decware SE34I.5 (Rachael model) within the price range and bought that.  Before I got it he let me listen to it with his system, and it sounded excellent.  Of course, I'm thinking the rest of his setup didn't hurt, as he had everything top of the line and in perfect condition.  I'm not sure about the brand of speakers, but they're supposed to be mighty expensive ones.  He turned out to be a great guy too, either he took pity on a non-expert like me, or he's just happy to help everybody.  One of the factors too is that Decware gives a lifetime warranty, although I'll have to pay a bit to transfer it to me, which I'm waiting on until it becomes necessary.  The guy I bought it from said he didn't worry about any warranty, since the quality was so spectacular.

 

So I hope I made a good choice, I hope I didn't pay too much, and I hope it will last a mighty long time.

 

 

That is a sharp amplifier... pictures are required here! :)

 

Have fun!

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A few years ago myself and a couple of audio buddies went down to Steve's place in Peoria, IL. He was having a whole weekend long shindig showing off his stuff.

 

We were really impressed. I'd like to get one of his amps someday. I can't remember what he all did as far as speakers and subs but they were impressive as well.....as was his shop and listening rooms. Nice guy.

 

 

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On 10/18/2017 at 5:51 PM, ksquared said:

 

Actually, everybody has helped a huge amount!  And I appreciate the patience and information from everybody, it did factor into my decision.  Hopefully I did OK.

 

First, it was interesting from dirtmudd about the calculations of the Scott amps in today's dollars, I hadn't really thought about that aspect.

 

There was another problem I kept thinking about, and that is how so many of the tube amps are <10 watts, some even at 2 watts.  I saw the thread from Maynard:  https://community.klipsch.com/index.php?/topic/170414-who-wants-to-measure-how-much-power-voltage-is-really-needed/&

Now, of course, I don't understand 95% of it, but derrickdj1's comment too, "I have the RF 7 II's and my tube amp is usually under 2 or 3 watts for my normal listening level."  Also, and of course I don't understand it, some say watts from a tube amp are more efficient at actually driving the speaker than the solid state amp.  And many are saying that the first watt is the most important.  So I did finally accept that I didn't need 100 or more wpc, especially with the efficient Klipsch speakers.  The weird thing though is I thought somewhere somebody had said if the speaker is underpowered it could be damaged, so maybe somebody could clarify that at some point.

 

And, the debate about older but rebuilt vs. new with the warranty was also factored in.  In the end, it is interesting that but for a few seconds, I might have ended up with that 299C which was several decades old, but restored.

 

So it turned out that I found a used Decware SE34I.5 (Rachael model) within the price range and bought that.  Before I got it he let me listen to it with his system, and it sounded excellent.  Of course, I'm thinking the rest of his setup didn't hurt, as he had everything top of the line and in perfect condition.  I'm not sure about the brand of speakers, but they're supposed to be mighty expensive ones.  He turned out to be a great guy too, either he took pity on a non-expert like me, or he's just happy to help everybody.  One of the factors too is that Decware gives a lifetime warranty, although I'll have to pay a bit to transfer it to me, which I'm waiting on until it becomes necessary.  The guy I bought it from said he didn't worry about any warranty, since the quality was so spectacular.

 

So I hope I made a good choice, I hope I didn't pay too much, and I hope it will last a mighty long time.

 

I was looking at this exact model today, new they are about $1500 and he offers some customizing for not much more money.   I'm curious how you are liking the amp.   I'd be using mine to power my Khorns or Lascalas.   I'm unsure if I'll get the bottom end I love with so few watts.  What are your latest thoughts?

 

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