vasubandu Posted February 1, 2018 Author Share Posted February 1, 2018 9 minutes ago, Schu said: There is nothing special about those la scalas OK, let's check shall we. This is available 30 miles from my home. Isn't it beautiful? At first I thought it was fireplace and that the black was soot. Isn't it wonderful that its blackness makes it impossible to see the workings and structure of the speaker? And then there is this. I can see the structure and even into the horns. The wood is gorgeous, and it looks to be in excellent shape. After all those years relaxing in Hawaii, I bet it makes beautiful sound. An all those others? $2,000 $650 (one) $1,200 $1,700 $800 $2,765 $1,500 $1,800 $1,095 $1,200 $1,800 When those came up, I spent a few hours looking a for sale and sold La Scalas, and I did not see anything that looked as nice for less than $2,500. Ordinarily I don't care that much about cosmetics, but in this case I would. And if it came with a tale to tell, that would be a plus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ceptorman Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 Listen to Schu, he can tell you the story about his beautiful La Scalas and shipping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T2K Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 15 minutes ago, vasubandu said: That is the Spock in you talking. There is more to life than logic. Have some passion. You're the buyer that sellers dream of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimjimbo Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 9 minutes ago, vasubandu said: Isn't it beautiful? At first I thought it was fireplace and that the black was soot. Isn't it wonderful that its blackness makes it impossible to see the workings and structure of the speaker? First of all, do you have any idea how many on this forum actually own, or have owned, a pair of black La Scala's? I'm sure you don't. And, of course you haven't realized that you've basically insulted them, and told them that their choice is ugly. Truth be told, the pair you have pictured from their relaxation spot in the islands have a really bad stain job. Secondly, have you even heard a pair of La Scalas? Likely not. Or Chorus II, or CF-4, etc, etc, etc...... Put them in a container? Send them via airline in a crate? And you are concerned about price? Sorry, but this is all sounding like a big joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vasubandu Posted February 1, 2018 Author Share Posted February 1, 2018 21 minutes ago, Ceptorman said: Listen to Schu, he can tell you the story about his beautiful La Scalas and shipping. No, please, I beg you, anything but Schu's story about his beautiful La Scalas and shipping. You make it sound so glorious but I know it isn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vasubandu Posted February 1, 2018 Author Share Posted February 1, 2018 20 minutes ago, T2K said: You're the buyer that sellers dream of. I suppose I am. I honestly can't think of the last time that I was ripped off in a significant way, but I have had way too many close calls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avguytx Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 Those LS's in Hawaii just look like plain birch someone put a stain on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vasubandu Posted February 1, 2018 Author Share Posted February 1, 2018 12 minutes ago, jimjimbo said: First of all, do you have any idea how many on this forum actually own, or have owned, a pair of black La Scala's? I'm sure you don't. And, of course you haven't realized that you've basically insulted them, and told them that their choice is ugly. Truth be told, the pair you have pictured from their relaxation spot in the islands have a really bad stain job. Secondly, have you even heard a pair of La Scalas? Likely not. Or Chorus II, or CF-4, etc, etc, etc...... Put them in a container? Send them via airline in a crate? And you are concerned about price? Sorry, but this is all sounding like a big joke First, I suspect that may people here have black La Scalas and love them. I be most of them that have black prefer it over the alternatives. If people take my expression of an opinion on a purely subjective matter as an insult, then I give up. So if someone says they do not like Heresy, is that an insult to those who own them? And in the same vein is your statement based on a single picture that the Hawaii La Scalas have a really bad stain job not an insult to me? The answer to that last one is no. I may overstate things and I may joke around, but I never purposefully insult anyone. It is not a kind thing to do, and I try to be a kind person. And in that respect, I don't mind that you said I insulted the cult of La Scalas that have no color, but I do mind that you took what I said as an insult. No I have never heard La Scalas. I have heard a Chorus I but not a Chorus II, and I have heard a CF-3, but not a CF-4. Also on my list of never heards is every Forte, every Cornwall and anything approaching a Klipschorn. I have so much to learn and experience, and I am trying to shift the balance more towards experience and less towards learn. So when these showed up and a good number of people made positive comments about them, I did some scheming and came up with a plan. If I can get them for $1,000 then they would very cheap for La Scalas. They don't have to be perfect or excellent to justify the price, and that is part of the atraction. It would be hard for them to go horribly wrong, and I would get to hear them every day. As for shipping, watch the YouTube video of Youthman unboxing a Forte III. These are $1,800 speakers with a 12" woofer and a 15" passive cone radiator. It admittedly has only a third of volumente of a La Scala, but it has half the weight. If shipping these is so difficult, how does Klipsch ship all their speakers without incident all the time. And it is UPS or FedEx, not some white glove treatment. Plus their boxes fit like a glove and have very little protection. I am just saying that it makes no sense to be afraid of shipping. So no, this is not a joke at all I have no idea if I will pull it off, but at a minimum I will have fun trying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vasubandu Posted February 1, 2018 Author Share Posted February 1, 2018 27 minutes ago, avguytx said: Those LS's in Hawaii just look like plain birch someone put a stain on. Is that bad? When I looked, I did not see any great woods that they used. Thanks for pointing that out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vasubandu Posted February 1, 2018 Author Share Posted February 1, 2018 The can ship them the slow way for $373. Interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitrofan Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 I'd buy those raw birch for 1200 and be done. They are almost identical to mine and that's what I paid as well 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arrow#422 Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 15 minutes ago, nitrofan said: I'd buy those raw birch for 1200 and be done. They are almost identical to mine and that's what I paid as well IF close, they'd offer much less of a headache with procurement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vasubandu Posted February 2, 2018 Author Share Posted February 2, 2018 Sadly the raw brich ones were culled from closed sales. Sold last September in California. Would it be a big deal to replace the entire outer structure with different wood? Seems like it would be just cutting replacements for all the parts. So, for example, could the outside be replaced with koa? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vasubandu Posted February 2, 2018 Author Share Posted February 2, 2018 And look you guys, I really appreciate all of these comments. In the scheme of things there is no difference between $700 and $1200, or even $1500. It is not going to change my life, but an amazing speaker might. I think my wife finally understands what I mean when I say that I like to do crazy things, but not stupid ones. The line between the two is not always clear, and when it gets hazy I can be the worst judge. So most of the time I pretty much do what she tells me to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cincymat Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 2 hours ago, vasubandu said: That is the Spock in you talking. There is more to life than logic. Have some passion. No, it’s just being pragmatic. You can find better looking La Scalas much closer to home. I don’t know about others but I got mine here but had to drive 8 hours one way. It was well worth the effort. My Khorns were a 19 hour round trip, renting a minivan and an overnight hotel stay. That’s passion and commitment. Both trips resulted in friends here and they’re worth more than the speakers. Btw, the company I work for ships lots products air freight, on pallets. Needs to be via a freight/cargo hauler. Not a passenger flight. You will find what you want near you. Be patient. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vasubandu Posted February 2, 2018 Author Share Posted February 2, 2018 Is this perhaps what you have in mind? https://www.ebay.com/itm/273043823071?rmvSB=true Pickup in Brooklyn only, but the concept Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avguytx Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 That's the concept. But those are rough. If a pair happened to be in decent but mild rough shape, they could have new veneer put on them. But replacing the wood on a pair isnt something easily doable. Find a wood worker there and have him build you a pair and done in the wood you like. Maybe one that has an interest in speakers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vasubandu Posted February 2, 2018 Author Share Posted February 2, 2018 @cincymat You make several good points. There is a work of difference between driving 8 hours to pick up a pair of La Scalas and having them shipped across the Pacific Ocean. Maybe I can get my adventure elsewhere. I learned about the shipping when I called them. I asked why their website fails to mention it or qualify you when you get an estimate, and she was like "everyone knows that." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cincymat Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 12 minutes ago, vasubandu said: @cincymat You make several good points. There is a work of difference between driving 8 hours to pick up a pair of La Scalas and having them shipped across the Pacific Ocean. Maybe I can get my adventure elsewhere. Maybe you can enjoy the system you have while you look for deals that are both priced right and attainable within reason? I bought my first pair of La Scalas and spent a few weeks working on them so I could listen to them in my garage. There,s a thread about it on here somewhere. It was worth every minute of sanding, patching, and painting them black. The chase is part of the fun too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vasubandu Posted February 2, 2018 Author Share Posted February 2, 2018 @cincymat You know I think I am just going to try to take everyone's advice. I have a guy coming on Saturday who seems likely to buy the Axiom 7.1 speaker set I got in a deal for $2,000, and then I can get this set of KLF-30, KLF-20 and KLF-C7. I have a feeling that those will blow away everything that came before. And while they are a 6 hour drive away, they are still in Washington State and I have talked tot he seller for about an hour. He knows what hew is doing, and he was the original purchaser. Given where I am in the process, that should be more than enough for a while. I will need to find the matching pairs, but I read that my RS-7 will work. And then if I can pull together a thousand dollars I probably would go for that silly SVS B4 Plus in San Diego. The owner has connections and can get it sent up on a pallet cheaply. Everyone says it is crap, but when it came out around 2002, it was the most powerful consumer subwoofer ever made. And it is beautiful. That just seems to make more sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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