OO1 Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 Fauci says U.S. will likely return to 'some degree of normality' at same time as Canada OTTAWA -- While critics of Canada’s vaccine rollout continue to point to the more accelerated COVID-19 vaccine rollout in the United States, Dr. Anthony Fauci says he isn’t planning on American life getting back to some semblance of normality any earlier than Canadian officials are aiming for. https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/fauci-says-u-s-will-likely-return-to-some-degree-of-normality-at-same-time-as-canada-1.5269046 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tube fanatic Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 Virus variant from Denmark is now 25% of California cases. https://www.nytimes.com/live/2021/01/18/world/covid-19-coronavirus Maynard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosco-d-gama Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 Here’s an overview article on how the covid19 mutations are occurring. For now they feel that these mutant strains remain manageable but certainly can change. It is surmised that covid19 mutations occur more often in immune compromised victims. When a normal person gets covid19 their immune system ‘goes to town’ on the virus and the ailment ends in a typical time frame. But immune compromised covid19 turn into ‘long termers’ and the virus genetically percolates seeking ways to survive/thrive inside the human body. This is when covid19 evolves new survival modifications aimed at defeating the human immune system. They may not be more virulent/lethal but these new variants infect human cells more easily. So fewer covid19 viruses could result in more serious cases where before they’d not present as acutely. Science is studying these mutations closely. They’re finding the same type of mutations evolving independently so the new English variant is similar to another variant from elsewhere. The paper is an interesting and informative read. https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2021/01/coronavirus-evolving-same-mutations-around-world/617721/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OO1 Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 Another New Covid-19 Variant Discovered In L.A. Might Be Vaccine Resistant, Researcher Says; Strain First Identified In Denmark Charles Chiu, a virologist and professor of laboratory medicine at UCSF who, in concert with state authorities, has been genetically sequencing test samples to identify new variants said early indications are the L452R might be less susceptible to the currently approved vaccines, but more investigation is needed. https://deadline.com/2021/01/another-new-covid-19-variant-in-l-a-vaccine-resistant-denmark-1234675834/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OO1 Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 California urges stop to 300,000 COVID-19 vaccines after some fall ill — California’s state epidemiologist is urging a halt to more than 300,000 coronavirus vaccinations using a Moderna vaccine version because some people received medical treatment for possible severe allergic reactions. https://www.pbs.org/newshour/health/california-urges-stop-to-300000-covid-19-vaccines-after-some-fall-ill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Travis In Austin Posted January 19, 2021 Moderators Share Posted January 19, 2021 On 1/15/2021 at 9:29 AM, dwilawyer said: Real world stuff-one of my wife's facilities vaccinated Willie Nelson day before yesterday (he signed release, took photos). He is doing fine, thumbs up. They are also setting up a high school football stadium for massive inoculations this weekend. There's the thumb's up. They have 37,000 people signed up so far for vaccinations. Williamson County votes tomorrow to turn it completely over to their private facilities, they will go from 200 inoculations a day to 2,000, you sign up on line, all from your car, you wait 15 to 20 mins, you get your vaccination card and off you go. If you are allergic to ANYTHING, they bring you inside a real accredited hospital, give you inoculation with doctors and nurses on standby, and after you clear waiting period you go to your car and leave. Everyone is given the day and time for your booster. You opt in or out for side effect reporting to CDC. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosco-d-gama Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 Direct testimony from Chinese on how poorly China managed covid19 from the onset. https://www.ladbible.com/news/news-new-documentary-reveals-wuhan-medics-were-told-to-lie-about-covid-19-20210119 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybob Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 6 hours ago, dwilawyer said: There's the thumb's up. They have 37,000 people signed up so far for vaccinations. Williamson County votes tomorrow to turn it completely over to their private facilities, they will go from 200 inoculations a day to 2,000, you sign up on line, all from your car, you wait 15 to 20 mins, you get your vaccination card and off you go. If you are allergic to ANYTHING, they bring you inside a real accredited hospital, give you inoculation with doctors and nurses on standby, and after you clear waiting period you go to your car and leave. Everyone is given the day and time for your booster. You opt in or out for side effect reporting to CDC. I like a plan. Got my card and took a pic of it for reference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosco-d-gama Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 Here’s an article covering the inception of covid19 in the USA. 1 year ago we had case #1. 1 year later and we have 400,000 dead. I’ll say this again. In WW2 we lost 422,000 soldiers in the entire war. This is death on a wholesale scale. Things are looking better but it is not time for any victory lap. It is time to double down, keep covid19 on the ropes and make it a manageable disease. https://www.usatoday.com/in-depth/news/nation/2021/01/19/first-covid-case-us-year-anniversary-snohomish-county/4154942001/ 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tube fanatic Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 2 hours ago, Bosco-d-gama said: Here’s an article covering the inception of covid19 in the USA. 1 year ago we had case #1. 1 year later and we have 400,000 dead. I’ll say this again. In WW2 we lost 422,000 soldiers in the entire war. This is death on a wholesale scale. Things are looking better but it is not time for any victory lap. It is time to double down, keep covid19 on the ropes and make it a manageable disease. https://www.usatoday.com/in-depth/news/nation/2021/01/19/first-covid-case-us-year-anniversary-snohomish-county/4154942001/ The CDC says that 94% of those who have died with the virus had underlying medical issues. So how can you imply that none of 400,000 would have died had they not been infected with the virus? What is the basis of your presumed conclusion that all would still be alive if the virus didn’t exist? I have been told that if a person tested positive within 30 days of dying in an auto accident, as one example, the cause of death is attributed to the virus. This does not mitigate the seriousness of the situation. Rather, I believe the media are using a strategy of creating fear and panic. Maynard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoff. Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 There is no doubt that Covid-19 is a deadly pandemic. There is also no doubt “the media” is spinning Covid-19. The question is “what truths are corporate (state) owned media really trying to hide.” ...shadow banks propping up over-valued mis-managed corporations, governments? I don’t know... Covid-19 gave every country in the world a license to print money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OO1 Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 31 minutes ago, geoff. said: Covid-19 gave every country in the world a license to print money Covid 19 is putting all countries around the world in bad financial dire strait , one should command the efforts made by Governments around the world to keep economies running - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosco-d-gama Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 44 minutes ago, tube fanatic said: The CDC says that 94% of those who have died with the virus had underlying medical issues. So how can you imply that none of 400,000 would have died had they not been infected with the virus? What is the basis of your presumed conclusion that all would still be alive if the virus didn’t exist? I have been told that if a person tested positive within 30 days of dying in an auto accident, as one example, the cause of death is attributed to the virus. This does not mitigate the seriousness of the situation. Rather, I believe the media are using a strategy of creating fear and panic. Maynard Death statistics are just a single dimension to covid19. Granted they are the most egregious and sensational and immediate but dying right away seems to be the only number that impacts most people. So FWIW we do have this many Americans with covid19 in their death certificates. Related to this number is what’s called ‘excess deaths’. Excess deaths compares the average annual death rates seen in the past with the death rates seen with covid19. As of October 2020 there were 300,000 excess deaths compared to prior years. So the answer to your inquiry is ‘yes’ there are a lot more Americans dying because of covid19 than in prior years. In fact the average age of those dying and shear number of the dead has reduced the averaged life span for Americans by 1 year. All of these values support the seriousness of the immediate lethality of covid19. Now as to the long term consequences of covid19 infections this remains to be seen. But we do know that covid19 leaves lasting scars on several organ systems. In every regard any process that scars a healthy body causes that body to accelerate its decline in health with age. The sequelae of covid19 infections could be astronomical. In 10 to 20 years the millions of covid19 survivors could be facing a host of chronic health problems any of which could accelerate their demise and all will have some consequences whether economic or in quality of life issues. Covid19 is no joke and the sooner we can contain it the better. The longer is remains active to more likely it will mutate into something more menacing. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosco-d-gama Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 27 minutes ago, RandyH000 said: Covid 19 is putting all countries around the world in financial dire strait , where have you been ? Agreed...... and IMHO China needs to be held economically accountable to some degree for these circumstances. There’s no question that China dragged its feet when covid19 initially plagued their country. China knows better. They demonstrated extremely poor judgement in seeding disinformation and misinformation about covid19 early on. This was the best opportunity to stifle the disease and it was squandered for no good or rational reason. The should be consequences so the next time this occurs the proper responses are put in play immediately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OO1 Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 7 hours ago, Bosco-d-gama said: Agreed...... and IMHO China needs to be held economically accountable That was addressed by the USA Congress - S. 3662 (116th😞 Holding the CCP Accountable for Infecting Americans Act of 2020 https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/house-bill/6405?q={"search"%3A["china"]}&s=1&r=89 https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/116/s3662/text Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvel Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 Wife and I have our appointments for second Moderna shots. First of Feb., slots filling up quickly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tube fanatic Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 17 hours ago, RandyH000 said: That was addressed by the USA Congress - S. 3662 (116th😞 Holding the CCP Accountable for Infecting Americans Act of 2020 https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/house-bill/6405?q={"search"%3A["china"]}&s=1&r=89 https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/116/s3662/text How can you hold them accountable when they supply almost all of our needs? If they cut off our electronic components, PPE, etc. we are dead in the water. Maynard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tube fanatic Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 A new virus mutation has originated in California: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/covid-19-strain-in-los-angeles-could-be-driving-regions-virus-surge-study-suggests-2021-01-19/ Maynard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosco-d-gama Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 “For now none of the new (covid19) variants seem to make people sicker.” https://www.statnews.com/2021/01/19/coronavirus-variants-transmissibility-disease-reinfection/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted January 20, 2021 Author Share Posted January 20, 2021 13 minutes ago, Bosco-d-gama said: “For now none of the new (covid19) variants seem to make people sicker.” I was talking to a vendor that services our store yesterday who has had it recently. He had the typical loss of smell and taste but for him the worst part was lower intestinal. He said it was like food poisoning. I didn't realize that was a symptom. On a side note, we had our first co-worker get tested yesterday. We should know hopefully by tomorrow what his result of the PCR test was. The Dr's office said that he had swollen glands and several other indicators of covid. Oddly enough, his symptoms started out with his lower intestine also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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