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[Curious_George]

9 minutes ago, veloceleste said:

I always quit just before I was about to be fired!😜

I had a friend who always had the right words for a given circumstance; "I was looking for a job when I found this one". 

[Curious_George]

2 hours ago, avguytx said:

So in essence, they are wanting this site to only be for singing of praises of all newer, and older speakers, in full stock form, with using parts that are only recommended by Klipsch, even when Klipsch doesn't actually have the parts.  Even with people who might own Epic stuff, for example, with replacements that are unobtanium, including grill emblems, woofers, HF drivers, etc.  People/consumers search ALL OVER THE INTERNET for input on their older speakers....not necessarily here.  If that's the direction of the forum, then there will be a lot of people on THIS forum trying to woo the people to listen to this forum versus every other location online, which outnumber this site with a huge ratio.  

 

I get both sides of it, honestly.  I'm not batting for either side here and it really won't make or break my day.  I have CF-3's of which no parts are available for and there are many others out there that do, too.  So where would they be directed, for example.  I also have ads speakers which there is no "ads company" yet there is someone who can repair and/or rebuild them along with a wealth of knowledge about them.  

 

I know that the majority of this stems from VOXX (Audiovox back in 2011), the parent company, as I used to be a rep for Audiovox, and other companies, that are/were owned by VOXX.  Every time a company I sold at retail, or rep'd, got bought out by VOX, they changed many facets of their business structure, representation, etc.  You can read about how this changed with VOXX owning Onkyo/Integra, a company I used to rep, that is gone now in the U.S. .  That's what "big corp" does and I know it first hand; it's not a new thing.

 

And I definitely would like to see Klipsch stay around in this crazy climate of consumer electronics.  They are in my home state and I'm about 3 hours from them.  

 

The saddest part is that Klipsch was bought by Voxx but if Klipsch was doing what they were supposed to be doing they would not have to have been looking for a suitor. Plain and simple. 

 

I'm sure the entire case is complex, but it can also be broken down to simple terms. 

 

Somebody screen shot this reply before it goes to the ether...

[billybob]

1 minute ago, Curious_George said:

The saddest part is that Klipsch was bought by Voxx but if Klipsch was doing what they were supposed to be doing they would not have to have been looking for a suitor. Plain and simple. 

 

I'm sure the entire case is complex, but it can also be broken down to simple terms. 

There is supposed to be a certain autonomy in place.

Not familiar enough with to say.

[Zen Traveler]

1 minute ago, Curious_George said:

The saddest part is that Klipsch was bought by Voxx but if Klipsch was doing what they were supposed to be doing they would not have to have been looking for a suitor. Plain and simple. 

Fwiw, I think that's oversimplified and the Founder's family sold the small company after he died for a profit and let a conglomerate take over the mantle. I have to imagine it's quite a competitive market especially with overseas manufacturing and competitors.

[Curious_George]

3 minutes ago, billybob said:

There is supposed to be a certain autonomy in place.

Not familiar enough with to say.

When you are owned by Voxx, you do it their way or the highway, I know first hand. You eventually like the kool-aid. Plain hard reality. 

[Curious_George]

5 minutes ago, Zen Traveler said:

Fwiw, I think that's oversimplified and the Founder's family sold the small company after he died for a profit and let a conglomerate take over the mantle. I have to imagine it's quite a competitive market especially with overseas manufacturing and competitors.

Well maybe the real story will be told. I'd like to hear it.

[oldtimer]

Klipsch sold first to a distant cousin.  Voxx came way later.  Neither was like when Paul owned it.  IMO.

[avguytx]

Yep.  That was 1989 when Fred Klipsch bought it and the Voxx thing came around in 2011.

[ClaudeJ1]

6 minutes ago, avguytx said:

Yep.  That was 1989 when Fred Klipsch bought it and the Voxx thing came around in 2011.

22 years was a pretty good run for Fred and Judy. Heck, the company sales went from about 20 million to 170 million, when Klipsch became one of the biggest speaker makers in the world before Voxx.

[Deang]

1 hour ago, Curious_George said:

The saddest part is that Klipsch was bought by Voxx but if Klipsch was doing what they were supposed to be doing they would not have to have been looking for a suitor. Plain and simple. 

 

I'm sure the entire case is complex, but it can also be broken down to simple terms. 

 

Somebody screen shot this reply before it goes to the ether...

That is not how it happened or the reason why. PK sold the business to his 2nd cousin Fred, under which the company saw exponential growth. Heritage was rejuvenated, they brought back the Cornwall, and all kinds of cool product. When Fred wanted to move on, he sold it to Voxx. Paul Jacobs, who had been with Klipsch for 20 years, became President and CEO. Voxx promised autonomy and by all indications, have kept their promise. I saw reference to Integra somewhere - they are now in the same building with Klipsch in Indy. The company keeps growing. More cool stuff coming. 

That little corner of the forum only exists because they know we care about it. Sure ain’t like they’re really making any money off most of us. 
 

They probably wake up everyday hoping they don’t see this “upgrade”. 

 

 

[Curious_George]

3 minutes ago, deang said:

 Voxx promised autonomy and by all indications, have kept their promise. I saw reference to Integra somewhere - they are now in the same building with Klipsch in Indy. The company keeps growing. More cool stuff coming.

If Klipsch has autonomy, it's because whoever are the top dogs at Klipsch have fought for it, which I applaude them for. Promises are not kept, they are fought for. 

[Curious_George]

Just now, Curious_George said:

If Klipsch has autonomy, it's because whoever are the top dogs at Klipsch have fought for it, which I applaude them for. Promises are not kept, they are fought for. 

Let me clarify, I have no ill will toward Voxx, they gave me a good living for a long time and gave me once in a life time opportunities. You just have to be passionate and fight the right fight throughout it all. 

[Curious_George]

9 minutes ago, deang said:

Isn't this how we all started? Ignorant and thinking there is some way we can improve this thing? I've been tinkering and taking things apart as young as 5 or 6 years old. I think I got my first soldering iron when I was 9 years old at Radio Shack. 

[Curious_George]

I remember looking at Panasonic Thruster speakers at Pic-N-Save...

[Chief bonehead]

One more time….modded klipsch speaker threads are not allowed…..period. If you don’t like it, then go somewhere else. It should have NEVER been allowed.
 

And if we hide threads, well now you know why. Get over it. 

You can call this the “Great Purge”. 
 

This thread (and any other that come forth) is going to be locked. And of course…..remember…..I am the chief bonehead.