Fotis1972 Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 I have klipsch rf 35 rc 35 rs 35 and Svs SB3000. Amps Marantz sr7013 and Moonriver 404 reference (night and day difference with Marantz AMAZING AMP, transform my speakers) Listening distance 2.70m, dist. From woofer to woofer 2.30m Room 40m2 Distance from glass furniture to the right wall 3.20m so, I'm interesting in Heresy iv or Cornwall iv In manual of both speakers mention that distance between speakers not centers must be minimum 6ft (2m) If I buy cornwall in order to do that I have to put it in the wall right corner. What do you recommend better for my space if I don't want to play 2channel with sub? Or is better heresy with 2 svs subs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubo Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 Will the Heresys be replacing your current speakers or will you be running a second system for stereo ? Given your space I'd say Heresys up on 2 end tables 12-16in off the walls sub optional Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter P. Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 If you get Heresy's you WILL want a sub. No need for two subs. Otherwise you'll be disappointed compared to your RF-35s. If you get Cornwalls you can get away without a sub, but you'll still need the sub for movies. You'll have plenty of room for either speaker assuming you'll be replacing the RF-35s. The Heritage speakers may not match your existing setup for timbre when watching movies. I personally would either keep what you have or get the Heresy's; the Cornwalls will look out of place in that small space. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shakeydeal Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 Neither. Look at the Forte IV. Heresy seems too small and CW IV seems too big. Just my opinion. BTW, I agree about the timbre matching. However, if music is your priority (as it should be) then just live without a CC. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idontknow Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 I agree the forte is more suited for that room 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fotis1972 Posted April 12, 2023 Author Share Posted April 12, 2023 11 hours ago, Bubo said: Will the Heresys be replacing your current speakers or will you be running a second system for stereo ? Given your space I'd say Heresys up on 2 end tables 12-16in off the walls sub optional Yes i want to replace them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fotis1972 Posted April 12, 2023 Author Share Posted April 12, 2023 10 hours ago, Peter P. said: If you get Heresy's you WILL want a sub. No need for two subs. Otherwise you'll be disappointed compared to your RF-35s. If you get Cornwalls you can get away without a sub, but you'll still need the sub for movies. You'll have plenty of room for either speaker assuming you'll be replacing the RF-35s. The Heritage speakers may not match your existing setup for timbre when watching movies. I personally would either keep what you have or get the Heresy's; the Cornwalls will look out of place in that small space. I totally understand what you say. IF i upgrade my klipsch ? , with better materilals , crossovers etc. I have a DIY guy here in Greece with excellent knowledge, even he made his own speakers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fotis1972 Posted April 12, 2023 Author Share Posted April 12, 2023 9 hours ago, Shakeydeal said: Neither. Look at the Forte IV. Heresy seems too small and CW IV seems too big. Just my opinion. BTW, I agree about the timbre matching. However, if music is your priority (as it should be) then just live without a CC. Sorry ,can you explaine me what you mean "without a CC" thanks alot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hron61 Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 CC=Center Channel Speaker. If it were me I would get the Cornwalls. Go big or go home. Or do what audiophiles do...Get Both, then sell off the ones that dont work out for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter P. Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 2 hours ago, Fotis1972 said: I totally understand what you say. IF i upgrade my klipsch ? , with better materilals , crossovers etc. I have a DIY guy here in Greece with excellent knowledge, even he made his own speakers Skip the upgrades; it's all snake oil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OO1 Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 @Fotis1972 you have an SVS sub , you should be all set with the Heresy IV at 1/2 the budget expense . If you want More bass and a full midrange + extreme clarity / detail in the vocals .... Cornwall IV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fotis1972 Posted April 13, 2023 Author Share Posted April 13, 2023 If I would buy CW I was thinking to sell my sub, bcs there isn't enough room for all speakers . So for movies I know there will be a problem. For heresy I read Erin review the only one that described it and measure it bad and I'm not sure where is the truth. Both of them there aren't for audition here. I'm trying to found used to go listen but can't find it yet... 🥴 So I don't know how they perform against my rf35, only reviews... With my rf 35 and moonriver 404r I have biggg sound. A friend of me that tested with 88db couldn't believe it was so powerful. And George Polychronidis (also Greek guy from Sweden, the chief engineer of Moonriver) told me buy heresy or CW, with 404 there isn't match even twice that price. So...... But I worried for heresy bass... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubo Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 Put 2 Heresys up on end tables on the sides of the TV they sound great You can add a sub woofer later if you need it I have had 2 pairs for 45 years and will never sell them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacek Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 I run LaScalas in room much smaller than yours (but not as crowded) and they are fine. Heard Cornwall I in even smaller room and they where great. Compared with Heresy "1.5" in different conditions and for me it's no brainer. For original question for me answer is always Cornwall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shakeydeal Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 7 hours ago, Peter P. said: Skip the upgrades; it's all snake oil. Yep. According to some in this forum you should only pair your heritage speakers with an 80s 5 channel receiver, zip cord speaker cables, throw away interconnects, and a Best Buy dvd player (open box model of course) if you want the best results. Advice you most certainly should heed…. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geezin' Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 Sarcasm a real addition to every conversation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybob Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 Ah, the taste of snake oil in the morning, brisk as Mennen after shave. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amped Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 What is it that’s lacking in your system now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shakeydeal Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 Regarding all the recommendations for Cornwalls. If you have to sit that close to the speakers, I don't think it will be ideal. Cornwalls and Lascalas need some distance from the listening position for the best integration of the drivers. Certainly it would work and probably not sound too bad, but you won't be getting what you paid for. The Fortes are more friendly when listening closer. Again, JMHO... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybob Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 If you want to, consider the Forte'4. If were to consider CW, would be nice to have a door to the room to open up, when you open up the volume. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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