billybob Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 Maybe the OP got what he wants to know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OO1 Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 1 hour ago, soundbound said: You should and post their proof too. klipsch does not have to prove or post anything , this is their living room dedicated solely to klipsch products 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundbound Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deang Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 People ask for proof, and when you give it to them, they don’t listen. It doesn’t matter how many times or ways you explain it to them. Measurements were provided here, for both capacitors and autotransformers. I just posted ESR measurements on the Vintage Klipsch Fans Facebook page a few days ago. No one really cares, either due to confirmation bias, or simply an inability to grasp the implications. I was going to post Boxler’s amazing results on the autoformer with some of my own measurements. I have decided not to waste my time. It’s an exercise in futility. Considering what has transpired here over the last year it is astonishing that there are still people who think that nothing has been proven or discussed at length. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OO1 Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 2 hours ago, soundbound said: If they want their claims validated and accepted they do. nope , this is their house , they dont have to play by Crites rules , or your rules Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OO1 Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 5 hours ago, Dave MacKay said: Without proof it’s just a claim. Not all claims are true. hit the ignore button Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OO1 Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 ........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deang Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 Well, everyone knows Roy and Klipsch could care less about support for vintage Heritage. They will lie, mislead and do whatever it takes to get you folks to drag them to the curb and buy new speakers. Klipsch also has an incompetent engineering department that’s afraid of being shown up by third party vendors, where the super smart people work - that’s why they don’t want us talking about them here! All of them networks look just like Klipsch so they must still be Klipsch! Yes yes I know the parts are all different and it sounds different but prove to me it’s different! It’s a factory spec upgrade! 🤪 lmao. Some of you have lost your damn minds. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybob Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 Dang...lol ! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bsacco1 Posted November 4, 2023 Author Share Posted November 4, 2023 Unfortunately, I bought what I thought were upgraded x-vers called the Super AA crossover from Al KapPenPainInTheAssBerger. What a joke. Al K. is a joke. Don't waste your time, effort or intellectual curiosity on Al. He is a village idiot. -bob 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWL Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 Well alrighty then.....😎 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deang Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 Everything I wrote are things others have said, taken straight from the Klipsch Facebook groups and someone’s webpage. So you agree it sounds stupid and immature? I guess I made my point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OO1 Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 10 hours ago, bsacco1 said: Super AA crossover from Al KapPenPainInTheAssBerger. no worries , get in touch with JEM @JEM Performance ,Jim can sell you a klipsch capacitors AA KIT or install the kit for you https://jemperformanceaudio.com/ 412-401-6915 or email theaudioroom@verizon.net Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deang Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 @soundbound Fair to a point. Opinions should be fact based. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deang Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 @Bubo The majority of those points have been explained/debunked several times over. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Travis In Austin Posted November 5, 2023 Moderators Share Posted November 5, 2023 8 hours ago, Bubo said: Customers haven't received valuable free tech support on the forum ? or Crites wasn't high value keeping the installed base alive waiting 2 decades for happier times ? or The tinkers on the forum didn't move the ball on mods and new product while providing thousands of hours of free tech support ? All of the above, especially the last one. Simply pure myth, hatched in the minds of those who believe that their intuition is equivalent to factual reality and not understanding that correlation doesn’t equal causation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Travis In Austin Posted November 5, 2023 Moderators Share Posted November 5, 2023 10 hours ago, soundbound said: What don’t you like about the crossovers? They don’t sound like Klipsch speakers anymore is the top reason I have seen from those who switched one out and did an A/B. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Travis In Austin Posted November 5, 2023 Moderators Share Posted November 5, 2023 23 hours ago, Deang said: Well, everyone knows Roy and Klipsch could care less about support for vintage Heritage. They will lie, mislead and do whatever it takes to get you folks to drag them to the curb and buy new speakers. Klipsch also has an incompetent engineering department that’s afraid of being shown up by third party vendors, where the super smart people work - that’s why they don’t want us talking about them here! All of them networks look just like Klipsch so they must still be Klipsch! Yes yes I know the parts are all different and it sounds different but prove to me it’s different! It’s a factory spec upgrade! 🤪 lmao. Some of you have lost your damn minds. You got me there brother. Satire, a very powerful form of communication, more so when the reveal isn’t until the last line. However, I did in fact think it would be cool if they used rare earth magnets to affix grilles. (Luther did that on my UG Jubilees). Three years after I had that thought, Klipsch started doing just that. Clearly they are stealing my thoughts. Note to self, write strongly worded letter to Mr. Jacobs insisting on 50 cents per unit royalty on behalf of Luther, and a letter to Luther suggesting 10% finders fee would be appropriate. Place order for new Jubilees on credit card, pay credit card bill with royalties that will soon be rolling in. End note. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Travis In Austin Posted November 5, 2023 Moderators Share Posted November 5, 2023 On 11/3/2023 at 11:38 AM, henry4841 said: Capacitor talk in a thread on this forum seldom ends well. Your a good egg Henry. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klipsch Employees Chief bonehead Posted November 5, 2023 Klipsch Employees Share Posted November 5, 2023 If you don’t like or get that we will NOT support supposedly “upgrades” from unapproved third parties, then that’s your problem. Take it to their websites or others. Not here. I’ve cleaned this up. I have very little tolerance for this. I know Mr K did as well….: 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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