joessportster Posted March 5, 2005 Share Posted March 5, 2005 i dont get it, why would a buyer of an item up for sale by auction bid early, and then get into a bidding war with someone else this only drives the price higher, some people need to think & bid with there brain and leave the hearts wants out of it, what purpose does it serve to try to outbid the next guy with 6 days left, perfect example is a set of khorns listed yesterday on a 7 day sale opening bid 400.00 no reserve, where are they now over 1200, with over 6 days, why 2 guys trying to outbid each other, personally i will wait till the last few seconds, always seems to save me money. GO FIGURE JOE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raypenn Posted March 5, 2005 Share Posted March 5, 2005 You make some good points, Joe, especially for more expensive items. However, I think that some people set a limit on what they will pay, and enter that as their maximum bid early, because they might forget or not be available to bid as the end of the auction approaches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toli0968 Posted March 5, 2005 Share Posted March 5, 2005 if you buy alot of stuff from ebay....... i would consider using biddnapper.com .... heres how it works. place a bid that you are willing to pay. biddnapper will place your bid at the very last second before the auction ends that would make it impossible for someone to outbid you. i think its well worth the fee if you shop alot on ebay. take care. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joessportster Posted March 5, 2005 Author Share Posted March 5, 2005 ---------------- On 3/5/2005 3:26:36 PM toli0968 wrote: if you buy alot of stuff from ebay....... i would consider using biddnapper.com .... heres how it works. place a bid that you are willing to pay. biddnapper will place your bid at the very last second before the auction ends that would make it impossible for someone to outbid you. i think its well worth the fee if you shop alot on ebay. take care. ---------------- hello and thanks i already have a sniper service i use though, called powersnipe, works great, i only get beat when i am to low or if someone else has a higher sniper bid than mine, i also realize what you are saying about being there to make bids at the last minute and all and i understand putting in your max and leaving things at that but these 2 guys are not doing that they are back and forth with each other, and drove the price up over 800.00 today with 6 days left, thats just plain senseless to be polite, i didnt count but they had at least 5 or 6 bids each today, the corker is normally those are the guys that dont win the sale, just kinda urks me when it is something i waws interested in and wanted to vent somewhere thanks Joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott0527 Posted March 5, 2005 Share Posted March 5, 2005 Rookies or crooks. I think some people still don't understand proxy bidding. Put in you highest bid you're willing to go and forget it. How about those people who keep inching their bid up to either reach the reserve and or top the high bidder? They'll stick in 20 bids each one increasing by 5 bucks. Hilarious. Most of them are probably shills anyway. By now you would think anybody seriously using Ebay for something worth some bucks would understand how it works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WS65711 Posted March 5, 2005 Share Posted March 5, 2005 ---------------- On 3/5/2005 4:03:46 PM joessportster wrote: i understand putting in your max and leaving things at that but these 2 guys are not doing that they are back and forth with each other, and drove the price up over 800.00 today with 6 days left, thats just plain senseless to be polite, i didnt count but they had at least 5 or 6 bids each today, the corker is normally those are the guys that dont win the sale, just kinda urks me when it is something i waws interested in and wanted to vent somewhere thanks Joe ---------------- Look at the upside. You don't have to wait 6 days to bid on this item. You ALREADY know that you are no longer interested. You are free to move on to something else. Something that has absolutely NO bids until the last 5 seconds, then gets clobbered by the sniping machines. If you're lucky, you will have entered the highest bid into YOUR sniping machine, to beat out all the other snipers. Good Luck !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coytee Posted March 5, 2005 Share Posted March 5, 2005 Having just sold some jewlery for the wife on ebay, I had a couple (same) posters bid on the stuff to. Their bids were early & actually cheap, ie, not even in the ballpark of what the price was going to be. I wondered about that and another angle hit me... Maybe some people just get their jollies off in the process of bidding (acting like they're a bigshot) and don't really WANT to win... just the mere process of being the "high bidder" on a $5,000 item, even though the bid for them is at $50... makes them feel special?? Was only thing I could come up with. Seems to me that most things will find a reasonable market value, so these people are either dumb as a rock, thinking they will buy a pair of Khorns for $15 (example), or as I suggested, they just like the process of bidding, since they might back out when the bids get to $400 for the same Khorns. ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mandi Posted March 5, 2005 Share Posted March 5, 2005 My vote is dumb as a rock. The only time I kind of like it is when I am selling. Then I enjoy their enthusiasm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Budman Posted March 5, 2005 Share Posted March 5, 2005 if you are the seller you gotta love the bidding war and the goof balls that have a zero rating bidding it up. and if you are a buyer you hate it. i try to only bid once with 30 seconds or less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lipinski Posted March 5, 2005 Share Posted March 5, 2005 If I'm serious about an item; I wait til about 20 seconds left and try to ****** it at the last second. Cost me once. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joessportster Posted March 5, 2005 Author Share Posted March 5, 2005 my kinda people, i already started watching some lascalas let the monkeys beat themselves to death, i wont let 0 feedbacks bid my items up like that i try to follow my oun thoughts IE... i wont bid against a 0 feedback person if they look to be getting high as they have nothing to lose if they dont pay, cant go far down from zero, therefore i will cancel bids or email the bidder and ask for info. just my oun policy , Joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBrennan Posted March 5, 2005 Share Posted March 5, 2005 Joe---You sound like a guy at a Blackjack table who doesn't like the way I play because it effects his play. I'll play my game, you play yours. If you don't like it find another game. I bid what I'm willing to pay early. I don't care if it pushes the bidding up, I'm out to suit myself, not you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkrop Posted March 5, 2005 Share Posted March 5, 2005 If you want to be good at anything, it takes PRACTICE! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sputnik Posted March 5, 2005 Share Posted March 5, 2005 It's like debating zone defense over man to man coverage. Different conditions may warrant different bidding approaches. As far as bidding goes, I go both ways . You need to account for all levels of expertise and intelligence on eBay. Speaking of intelligence. Maybe everyone does this, but one interesting thing I look for are misspellings. Right now there are five Bang and Olufson items on eBay. There are some Solomon skis and ski boots. Also, some Calloway golf clubs. I think that most buyers search by product name more than by category so it cuts down on bidding competition. I don't think it's taking advantage of anyone as long they have the option to set a reserve or not. I'm always on the prowl for a Krel or Macintosh amplifier as well as those elusive Klipshorn speakers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Audible Nectar Posted March 6, 2005 Share Posted March 6, 2005 Tom's blackjack analogy is quite funny. As a former casino dealer, if I had a dollar for every time I heard a player bitc# about the other player's strategies, I would be retired. I typically am a "last minute" bidder as well, except in one circumstance: An item with no bids that I wish to remain posted until the end of the auction. If an item sits on ebay with no reserve and no bids, I like to place a minimum bid, so that the seller (hopefully) won't pull the auction. Bidding early and high generally serves no one (except the seller) well, IMO. To my way of thinking, having a $200 bid on a set of rare tubes 5 hours before the auction ends says "I dare you to outbid me". If you give someone enough time, someone just might do that, because you gave them time to talk themselves into it. If I wait until last minute, no one has the opportunity to ponder. I do, at times, wonder about unnecessary early bidding too - but that's the nature of ebay. Don't like blackjack players splitting tens? Find another table. Don't like bidding wars on ebay? Well, that's the nature of the game, so you might try audiogon or other sources for your goods. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joessportster Posted March 6, 2005 Author Share Posted March 6, 2005 ---------------- On 3/5/2005 11:20:00 PM TBrennan wrote: Joe---You sound like a guy at a Blackjack table who doesn't like the way I play because it effects his play. I'll play my game, you play yours. If you don't like it find another game. I bid what I'm willing to pay early. I don't care if it pushes the bidding up, I'm out to suit myself, not you. ---------------- you souund like a guy that knows what you are doing is a stupid way to bid on an auction so now to justify your ignorance you want to get on here and try to flame on me, enjoy bidding whatever you want to astronomical prices its your money, nobody cares least of all me. i get what i want in the end with or without you. i didnt start this thread to banter wit with anyone i simply made an observation and it has been my experience the people that take the most offense are the practicing whatever the observation was about, JOE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joessportster Posted March 6, 2005 Author Share Posted March 6, 2005 ---------------- On 3/6/2005 9:11:06 AM Audible Nectar wrote: Tom's blackjack analogy is quite funny. As a former casino dealer, if I had a dollar for every time I heard a player bitc# about the other player's strategies, I would be retired. I typically am a "last minute" bidder as well, except in one circumstance: An item with no bids that I wish to remain posted until the end of the auction. If an item sits on ebay with no reserve and no bids, I like to place a minimum bid, so that the seller (hopefully) won't pull the auction. Bidding early and high generally serves no one (except the seller) well, IMO. To my way of thinking, having a $200 bid on a set of rare tubes 5 hours before the auction ends says "I dare you to outbid me". If you give someone enough time, someone just might do that, because you gave them time to talk themselves into it. If I wait until last minute, no one has the opportunity to ponder. I do, at times, wonder about unnecessary early bidding too - but that's the nature of ebay. Don't like blackjack players splitting tens? Find another table. Don't like bidding wars on ebay? Well, that's the nature of the game, so you might try audiogon or other sources for your goods. ---------------- NOT COMPLAINING, AND NEVER SAID I DONT LIKE IT SAID I DONT UNDERSTAND IT, WHY WOULD ANY NORMAL HUMAN DRIVE THE PRICE OF WHAT THEY WANT TO BUY HIGHER COMMON SENSE, TO ME BUT WHATEVER I JUST BIDE MY TIME AND LOOK AT THE NEXT ITEM FOR SALE, JOE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Audible Nectar Posted March 6, 2005 Share Posted March 6, 2005 I do agree with you, joe - it's just a matter of doing what one can in response to a situation one cannot control.....which in this case is nothing. Like the fellow who splits 10's on a blackjack table - it irritates some, but we cannot control what others do - just how we react to those situations. That's the rub with ebay - it's a great place to find rare stuff, but we do jokingly call it "epay" for a reason, too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sputnik Posted March 6, 2005 Share Posted March 6, 2005 ---------------- On 3/6/2005 9:43:32 AM Audible Nectar wrote: Like the fellow who splits 10's on a blackjack table - it irritates some, but we cannot control what others do - just how we react to those situations. ---------------- Watch those guys carefully. In most card counting systems, you split tens when the count approaches plus five or better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fletcherkane Posted March 8, 2005 Share Posted March 8, 2005 Sniping bugs me. However, I use ebay all the time. (Its the only site I am on more than this one. I know that some people use bidding wars like a gambling addiction. They bid and bid, often paying way more for an item than it is worth, and often for something they didn't even want just for the thrill it gives them by winning. I use proxy bidding all the time. If I find an item that I want, I enter the most I would be willing to pay for it, and forget about it. I have lost auctions many times, but I've never gotten in a bidding war and paid more than what something was worth. Just my two cents... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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