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I have been experiencing some ear pain lately after just a few minutes of listening to my setup at high volumes. I am not sure if this is due to my speakers, receiver, room setup, or something else. The speakers are low end reference series - do I need to go higher end?

The room is about 12 by 15, and it opens up to the kitchen area. The floor is terracotta tile. Any ideas on what might be causing this and how it can be alleviated? I know some people will say to toss my onkyo out the door, but I am hoping to avoid this if possible :)

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"I have been experiencing some ear pain lately after just a few minutes of listening to my setup at high volumes"

I would suspect that it may be "something else"..... Please be careful with your hearing and "high volumes"; you can end up with permanent damage to your ears. Sorry if I sound like I'm "preaching", but there's a lot of folks out there who are my friends who learned the hard way.

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Thanks for the advice, and I definitely appreciate the concern. I will take your's and CECAA850's advice and measure just how loud I am listening. My instinct is that it is not dangerous levels, but I could be wrong. I usually turn the volume up just enough to where I can start to really feel the bass. What is the point of having a nice sound system if you cannot feel the power?

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Fini, you beat me to it -- Kevin, I think you should see an ENT physician, or at least an audiologist, and soon. I'd favor an ENT doc myself. If nothing else, get a baseline audiogram for future comparisons.

The pain part also concerns me. Too many lose hearing as it is who don't have pain to warn them.

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Do you recommend any specific model?

Radio shack has a couple. I doubt it's your speakers because to me even poor sounding speakers should not cause pain, unless your at ridiculous volumes.

Get DB meter and if possible see a doctor, that doesn't sound right.

Decibel (Loudness) Comparison Chart

Here are some interesting numbers, collected from a variety of sources, that
help one to understand the volume levels of various sources and how they can
affect our hearing.


Environmental Noise

Weakest sound heard 0dB
Whisper Quiet Library 30dB
Normal conversation (3-5') 60-70dB
Telephone dial tone 80dB
City Traffic (inside car) 85dB
Train whistle at 500', Truck Traffic 90dB
Subway train at 200' 95dB
Level at which sustained
exposure may result in hearing loss
90 -
95dB
Power mower at 3' 107dB
Snowmobile, Motorcycle 100dB
Power saw at 3' 110dB
Sandblasting, Loud Rock Concert 115dB
Pain begins 125dB
Pneumatic riveter at 4' 125dB
Even short term exposure can
cause permanent damage - Loudest recommended exposure WITH hearing
protection
140dB
Jet engine at 100', Gun Blast 140dB
Death of hearing tissue 180dB
Loudest sound possible 194dB
OSHA Daily Permissible Noise Level
Exposure
Hours per day Sound level
8 90dB
6 92dB
4 95dB
3 97dB
2 100dB
1.5 102dB
1 105dB
.5 110dB
.25 or less 115dB
Perceptions of Increases in Decibel
Level
Imperceptible Change 1dB
Barely Perceptible Change 3dB
Clearly Noticeable Change 5dB
About Twice as Loud 10dB
About Four Times as Loud 20dB
Sound Levels of Music
Normal piano practice 60 -70dB
Fortissimo Singer, 3' 70dB
Chamber music, small auditorium 75 - 85dB
Piano Fortissimo 84 - 103dB
Violin 82 - 92dB
Cello 85 -111dB
Oboe 95-112dB
Flute 92 -103dB
Piccolo 90 -106dB
Clarinet 85 - 114dB
French horn 90 - 106dB
Trombone 85 - 114dB
Tympani & bass drum 106dB
Walkman on 5/10 94dB
Symphonic music peak 120 - 137dB
Amplifier rock, 4-6' 120dB
Rock music peak 150dB

NOTES:


  • One-third of the total power of a 75-piece orchestra comes from the bass
    drum.
  • High frequency sounds of 2-4,000 Hz are the most damaging. The uppermost
    octave of the piccolo is 2,048-4,096 Hz.
  • Aging causes gradual hearing loss, mostly in the high frequencies.
  • Speech reception is not seriously impaired until there is about 30 dB loss;
    by that time severe damage may have occurred.
  • Hypertension and various psychological difficulties can be related to noise
    exposure.
  • The incidence of hearing loss in classical musicians has been estimated at
    4-43%, in rock musicians 13-30%.

Statistics for the Decibel (Loudness) Comparison Chart were taken from a
study by Marshall Chasin , M.Sc., Aud©, FAAA, Centre for Human Performance
& Health, Ontario, Canada. There were some conflicting readings and, in many
cases, authors did not specify at what distance the readings were taken or what
the musician was actually playing. In general, when there were several readings,
the higher one was chosen.

http://www.gcaudio.com/resources/howtos/loudness.html

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Get an SPL meter and see how loud you're actuall listening before you do anything else.

Yep.... DEFINITELY +1.....

You might be listening louder than you think, which can lead to hearing loss or damage.

I am betting this is the case.......

I like my music loud also, but I have been taming it down a bit, because I want to still hear Klipsch when I am 70.......

Good Luck.

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Fini, you beat me to it -- Kevin, I think you should see an ENT physician, or at least an audiologist, and soon. I'd favor an ENT doc myself. If nothing else, get a baseline audiogram for future comparisons.

The pain part also concerns me. Too many lose hearing as it is who don't have pain to warn them.

I knew you'd back me up, Larry!

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I convinced a freind to go to an ENT.

He did, and found a hair touching the eardrum.

The ENT suggested an MRI to look for a growth on the inside where the hair was touching.

The MRI showed a growth.

Treatment is being discussed.

Please go see the ENT asap.

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Studio Six Digital has an iPhone app that is a Real Time Analyzer (search for RTA on iTunes) which also does SPL, and a separate SPL meter that looks just like the old Rat Shack meter. Cost $1.99 although there is an entry level into a whole suite of audio test tools for like 9.99. I use it all the time on and around stage, it's pretty accurate.

Michael

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Wow, thanks for all of your responses! Just to elaborate, the pain is very slight and it was right after listening to about 20 minutes of the dark knight cranked up to what I thought was a reasonable level. The discomfort lasted for a few hours and then was gone. I will probably go to an ENT as many of you have suggested and will DEFINITELY be more careful in the future. Next purchase: SPL meter!

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  • 2 weeks later...

Sometimes a gig gob of earwax breaks loose because of heavy sound with hairs doing the paining. It kind of feels like you have a small tree stuck in there.

JJK

It's astonishing (and kinda gross) how much earwax can come out with a good cleaning.
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