Gorm Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 I'm running the BMS on my Cornscalas at -10 on the ALK ES crossovers. IMO, there is quite a bit of bass, almost too much, but at -9 they run too hot. Its a real balancing act. However, the speakers sound awesome, and I would not want to change them out for anything. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deang Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Bob Crites recommends this one on K-402 horns: http://www.usspeaker.com/Faital%20Pro%20HF200-1.htm I've heard the dual-diaphragm BMS compression driver (as in using your midrange horn as a 2-way loudspeaker instead of 3-way that you have now) - and I wasn't impressed: YMMV. I do recommend EQing it properly if you use them: Speaking in general, pro-drivers really aren't designed with the goal of reaching the highest level of fidelity -- it's not their highest priority. The BMS coaxial is a good example. There is an aftermarket passive section for the tweeter that was developed by one of DJK's friends. The 4591 and 4592-MID are both relatively flat where it matters -- but you have to go three way. These drivers are both similar in sonic signature to the K-55, except with much lower distortion numbers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longdrive03 Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Ellis, I've heard good things about the DH1A. May pull the trigger on those or the ND6X . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
absolve2525 Posted September 9, 2014 Author Share Posted September 9, 2014 Thanks for the suggestions! I'd certainly give the EVs a shot if I found them for a good price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorm Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 Did some extensive listening with my BMS's at -12 last night. The bass is significantly inhanced. I think i like the sound. Thanks Dean for the heads up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Morbius Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 I don't know, the Faital pro HF200 sounds super great to me. I guess it really depends on your horn selection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
absolve2525 Posted September 10, 2014 Author Share Posted September 10, 2014 Those Faital have some sweet specs! Has anyone compared them to the BMS? Or the Eminence? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justinsweber Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 Faital HF200 has worked really well for me. B&C DE85TN is another fantastic choice. I have a DE750... Id say the 85 is a better choice... The 750 seems much more efficient and required more padding to integrate well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
absolve2525 Posted December 8, 2014 Author Share Posted December 8, 2014 Thanks for the input, Justin. How does the Faital compare to the B&C? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justinsweber Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 Interchangable sonicly. Id go B&C as its true 2" driver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
absolve2525 Posted December 10, 2014 Author Share Posted December 10, 2014 That's good information! Thanks again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djk Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 "as its true 2" driver." Please explain this remark. the B&C DE85TN has a huge 12dB peak in the high end. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NBPK402 Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 "as its true 2" driver." Please explain this remark. the B&C DE85TN has a huge 12dB peak in the high end. If you go to their website it shows the high end slowly going down and then there is a spike before it goes down again... I think that is what he is talking about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justinsweber Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 No I mean its a true 2" exit. The Faital is a 1.4" driver with a adapter which expands to 2"... Works really well but is not a 2" driver... its a 1.4" with included adapter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvu80 Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 (edited) If this helps to illustrate the point, here is a DH1A with a true 2" exit, beside a Klipsch K-63-KN which has a true 1" exit. The DH1A uses a four-bolt attachment, and the K-63 is a screw-on type. There are also 2-bolt, and 3-bolt designs, used for the 1.4" and 1" throats. Edited December 12, 2014 by wvu80 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djk Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 "Works really well but is not a 2" driver... its a 1.4" with included adapter. " By your thinking the EV DH1A is not a true 2" driver, nor is any JBL made after the alnico models. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NBPK402 Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 "Works really well but is not a 2" driver... its a 1.4" with included adapter. " By your thinking the EV DH1A is not a true 2" driver, nor is any JBL made after the alnico models. Isn't the EVDH1a actually a 3" driver that is reduced to a 2"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvu80 Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 "Works really well but is not a 2" driver... its a 1.4" with included adapter. " By your thinking the EV DH1A is not a true 2" driver, nor is any JBL made after the alnico models. Isn't the EVDH1a actually a 3" driver that is reduced to a 2"? You are correct, sir! The spec sheet says 3.00 inch voice coil diameter, throat diameter 1.94 inch. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djk Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 "Isn't the EVDH1a actually a 3" driver that is reduced to a 2"?" Nobodey seems to get it. The exit hole means little, it's the diaphragm area. The bigger the diaphragm, the less pressure per square unit of throat area, the lower the distortion will be. Almost all compression drivers have a compression ratio of about 10:1 (diaphragm area to area of the openings in the phase plug), the Community M200 being an exception (and why it sounds so good despite not measuring the best). For midrange, the M200 (used in the Avantegarde Trio) sounds better than ........................(fill in the blank, including JBL, BMS, etc), but your tweeter will need to reach 4Khz. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justinsweber Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 My comment wa born of a few reasons... for me the most important being that I have greater access to horns with 2" openings than 1.4". The Faital with its elip horn will fit a cornwall bin... as will a B&C DE85 and a Eliptrac400. The HF200 and a eliptrac 400 will not fit. The HF200 and the HF140 are the same driver if I recall minus the adaptor. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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