davidtheman30 Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 Hi, I'm currently running a 5.1 reference setup with RF-82 IIs for the fronts. I'm thinking about upgrading the fronts to RF-7 IIs or would it be better to upgrade my entire system to Heritage speakers? If I did go the Heritage route, I'm looking at the Cornwall III or La Scala II. Between the Cornwall III and La Scala II, which is better? Also, I'm doing this upgrade for a 5.1 Home Theater setup. I watch movies about 90% of the time and sometimes listen to music. Please help. Thanks! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaddeus Smith Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 If you go Heritage, invest in a quality sub (or two) and then buy Heresies for the other 5 channels. Since your content is mostly movies, there's no point in spending money on speakers that can dig deep when you're just going to cross them over at 80hz to the sub anyways. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tromprof Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 If you have the money, go for La Scalas. Combine those with a good horn sub and you have a better sounding system than most theaters. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derrickdj1 Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 If you go Heritage, invest in a quality sub (or two) and then buy Heresies for the other 5 channels. Since your content is mostly movies, there's no point in spending money on speakers that can dig deep when you're just going to cross them over at 80hz to the sub anyways. I am like Michael on this one. No need for big speakers that dig deep when a sub/s is required. Music is different. I use the big RF 7's and xo them at 80 Hz. This makes them big satellites speakers. I coul;d get by with something smaller just for movies. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psg Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 If you go Heritage, invest in a quality sub (or two) and then buy Heresies for the other 5 channels. Since your content is mostly movies, there's no point in spending money on speakers that can dig deep when you're just going to cross them over at 80hz to the sub anyways. La Scalas don't dig deep, but they do 80 Hz and above very well! Better than the Heresy! What would you use as center? surrounds? Three LS II in the front would be awesome. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidtheman30 Posted October 16, 2014 Author Share Posted October 16, 2014 Thank you everyone for your suggestions! I'm definitely interested in a La Scala setup. Do you think tube amps will be needed with this setup for home theater use? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heritage_Head Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 Get the biggest Klipsch you can fit and afford is my advise. It will save you a lot of money in upgrades. Getting small Klipsch with a sub will mean smaller drivers and horns. It will matter I promise. My advise comes from my own mistakes. Learn from them 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heritage_Head Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 Thank you everyone for your suggestions! I'm definitely interested in a La Scala setup. Do you think tube amps will be needed with this setup for home theater use?Not needed no. You can run them off just your avr or any nice ss amp. A few watts is all they need. 3 of those would be a great upgrade from 82s. Can you fit one for a center? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrappydue Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 Can you fit three kpt-904's?? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psg Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 Thank you everyone for your suggestions! I'm definitely interested in a La Scala setup. Do you think tube amps will be needed with this setup for home theater use? No, not really. Look into the KPT-904 as well; good idea! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schu Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 (edited) dedicated HT... DEFINITELY look into two, four or five 904's, you will never look back. how big is your HT room OP? Edited October 16, 2014 by Schu 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrappydue Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 dedicated HT... DEFINITELY look into two, four or five 904's, you will never look back. how big is your HT room OP? whats wrong with three 904's? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AaronH Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 Should Blu ray music concerts be x over at 80? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willland Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 Should Blu ray music concerts be x over at 80? It is personal preference but I have my rig set that way. Most of the time I listen/watch concerts in multichannel but the occasional stereo mix I may drop the crossover down to 60Hz. Any specific concerts you have in mind? "Dave Matthews and Tim Reynolds Live at Radio City" is the best recorded(audio and video) BD concert I have ever experienced. The imaging and soundstage are second to none, IMO. Bill 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heritage_Head Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 (edited) Should Blu ray music concerts be x over at 80? Should Blu ray music concerts be x over at 80? It is personal preference but I have my rig set that way. Most of the time I listen/watch concerts in multichannel but the occasional stereo mix I may drop the crossover down to 60Hz. Any specific concerts you have in mind? "Dave Matthews and Tim Reynolds Live at Radio City" is the best recorded(audio and video) BD concert I have ever experienced. The imaging and soundstage are second to none, IMO. Bill Agreed. Best for you to try out different settings. I ran the 7s large and felt they sounded a little fuller. My new speakers I xo them at 80 right now. But do plan at some point to try a few other settings. My advise when you are trying new settings. Is to live with each setting for a few weeks or longer. Then when you change you will notice the small change for better or worse. If you just flip back and forth it will be harder. My point is it can be different in every case. Edited October 18, 2014 by reference_head 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BE36 Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 Thank you everyone for your suggestions! I'm definitely interested in a La Scala setup. Do you think tube amps will be needed with this setup for home theater use?Not needed no. You can run them off just your avr or any nice ss amp. A few watts is all they need. 3 of those would be a great upgrade from 82s. Can you fit one for a center? Agree tube amps are not required especially if 90% Movie. For movie I lean towards Solid State and keeping La Scalas stock unless Movies are musicals. Also agree 3 front speakers being same is important. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paducah Home Theater Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 As for x-ing over at 80 for blu ray concerts... not in my opinion. Lets just say that ive watched the metallica movie about 50 times on a wharfedale modus 8 setup as well as klipsch thx at 80. An hour ago I hooked up my new rf-7 ii's at full range. The bass guitar comes alive. Double bass and floor toms are much more powerful. Grungy electric guitar riffs are a wall of sound like at a concert. I play these instruments, I know what they are supposed to sound like live. This setup is much closer to that. I will never go back to cross in over at 80 Hz. This crap is as loud as I can stand it and these rf7ii's are barely breaking a sweat, easily keeping up with my 18's. However, I will say that dialogue sounds more realistic at above 80. So, pick your poison I guess. Dialogue seems better crossed over high. The metallica concert movie? Oh hell no, run it full range. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidtheman30 Posted October 22, 2014 Author Share Posted October 22, 2014 Great suggestions! My current HT is about 24 ft long and 20 ft wide. I'm curious to know how close the RF-7 II sounds to the La Scala II. Can anyone tell me on a scale from 1-10 (10 being an identical performance and sound of the La Scala II). Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaddeus Smith Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Great suggestions! My current HT is about 24 ft long and 20 ft wide. I'm curious to know how close the RF-7 II sounds to the La Scala II. Can anyone tell me on a scale from 1-10 (10 being an identical performance and sound of the La Scala II). Thanks! uh, 1. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidtheman30 Posted October 22, 2014 Author Share Posted October 22, 2014 That's interesting lol. Would you say that rating is because of the bass of the RF-7s or something else? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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