Moderators dtel Posted November 2, 2014 Moderators Share Posted November 2, 2014 That's what it looks like, I had no idea but not surprised. http://news.yahoo.com/man-owns-smart-tv-says-afraid-using-reading-014529097.html Just like with other electronic devices that used to be “dumb,” TVs have become increasingly smart lately, but that doesn’t mean that’s necessarily a good thing, especially when it comes to user privacy. At least that’s what Brennan Center’s Michael Price seems to think after he replaced his older TV that could offer access just to TV programs with a smart TV model that also delivers “streaming multimedia content, games, apps, social media and Internet browsing.” “The only problem is that I’m now afraid to use it. You would be too — if you read through the 46-page privacy policy,” Price wrote. “The amount of data this thing collects is staggering. It logs where, when, how, and for how long you use the TV. It sets tracking cookies and beacons designed to detect ‘when you have viewed particular content or a particular email message.’ It records ‘the apps you use, the websites you visit, and how you interact with content.’ It ignores ‘do-not-track’ requests as a considered matter of policy.” On the other hand, this isn’t the first time a smart TV has been found capable of tracking your activities for advertising purposes, so buyers should always try to go through the privacy policies they agree to when using such a device, and try to limit tracking if and when possible. Furthermore, the device has a built-in camera with facial recognition and a microphone with voice recognition features, both tools that hackers or spy agencies could use to spy on unsuspecting buyers, Price says. In addition to being used for ad purposes, these smart devices might also be hacked only as long as they’re connected to the Internet. Owners could decide to remove Internet access from their smart TVs to protect themselves against tracking and spying, but they’d lose most of their smart features in the process. “I do not doubt that this data is important to providing customized content and convenience, but it is also incredibly personal, constitutionally protected information that should not be for sale to advertisers and should require a warrant for law enforcement to access,” Price said, further quoting former CIA chief General David Petraeus who once said the agency will be able to “spy on you through your dishwasher.” “Indeed, as the ‘Internet of Things’ matures, household appliances and physical objects will become more networked,” Price said. “Your ceiling lights, thermostat, and washing machine — even your socks — may be wired to interact online. The FBI will not have to bug your living room; you will do it yourself.” 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Steven1963 Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 In my youth, I worked for the NSA indirectly. That was back in the 1980's. Their capabilities then were mind-boggling and of course, I cannot go into detail. But, I will say this: if you are among those that do not believe the government is recording/storing your voice/text/email communications then you are naive. Some of you may be smirking at that. But I know what I know. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybob Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Hoping I get discovered for show biz. At my awards they will show a 2 minute excerpt of me watching the tube,drinking coffee,typing and holding a cat, while Nan is painting. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JL Sargent Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Around here we could care less if they know what we are watching on tv. I doubt anybody other than advertisers care either. Lets face it, unless you are a bomb maker or agent for North Korea or some other radical person working for a radical country, the US government doesn't care. Last night they could have watched me eat some red beans/rice while screaming at a football game. Now that is good stuff for sure. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gas0line Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Ohh snap! They pry watched me play destiny last night and swear at a bunch of 14 yr olds. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joessportster Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 (edited) USA no longer we the people, Now we the government backed by the wealthiest 1 %....................................... Of course it is We the peoples fault, as We have handed over all the freedoms we once enjoyed. People used to make fun of the Movie Big Brother is Watching You Now we live it.............................. Edited November 2, 2014 by joessportster 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Steven1963 Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 (edited) Around here we could care less if they know what we are watching on tv. I doubt anybody other than advertisers care either. Lets face it, unless you are a bomb maker or agent for North Korea or some other radical person working for a radical country, the US government doesn't care. Last night they could have watched me eat some red beans/rice while screaming at a football game. Now that is good stuff for sure. USA no longer we the people, Now we the government backed by the wealthiest 1 %....................................... Of course it is We the peoples fault, as We have handed over all the freedoms we once enjoyed. People used to make fun of the Movie Big Brother is Watching You Now we live it.............................. The attitude of the first post invites the over-reach in the second post. Even worse is that most people have bought the whole "we are looking for terrorists" mime as the excuse to invade your privacy and homes. If you do some minor research yourself it shows that looking for terrorists is not on their list of priorities. What is? I doubt anyone on here cares enough to do the research to actually find out. Don't believe it? Then please answer why/how the Boston Marathon was bombed by a couple guys that the Russians had previously warned us about? "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." ~~ Benjamin Franklin If you prefer to have THIS government spy on you under the pretext that they are protecting you, good luck with that road. And... "May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.” ~~ Samuel Adams Government is nothing more than a collection of Men. Men with power are inherently evil. Over time they will use that power against the people. You need only look throughout History to prove this statement and the United States is not immune from that demise. You might say that you don't care and that you will not suffer from it. But if you have children, they will. If that doesn't bother you then I'm glad I'm not one of your children. I have to leave this thread now, I am allowing it to become personal. Edited November 2, 2014 by Steven1963 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peshewah Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Maybe they can keep an eye on my chickens 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike stehr Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Maybe they know who ripped mine off... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators dtel Posted November 2, 2014 Author Moderators Share Posted November 2, 2014 If you have a smart Tv, once a day turn around and drop your pants and aim at the TV just in case there looking. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike stehr Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Give 'em the ol' chocolate starfish. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T2K Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Around here we could care less if they know what we are watching on tv. I doubt anybody other than advertisers care either. Lets face it, unless you are a bomb maker or agent for North Korea or some other radical person working for a radical country, the US government doesn't care. Last night they could have watched me eat some red beans/rice while screaming at a football game. Now that is good stuff for sure. USA no longer we the people, Now we the government backed by the wealthiest 1 %....................................... Of course it is We the peoples fault, as We have handed over all the freedoms we once enjoyed. People used to make fun of the Movie Big Brother is Watching You Now we live it.............................. The attitude of the first post invites the over-reach in the second post. Even worse is that most people have bought the whole "we are looking for terrorists" mime as the excuse to invade your privacy and homes. If you do some minor research yourself it shows that looking for terrorists is not on their list of priorities. What is? I doubt anyone on here cares enough to do the research to actually find out. Don't believe it? Then please answer why/how the Boston Marathon was bombed by a couple guys that the Russians had previously warned us about? "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." ~~ Benjamin Franklin If you prefer to have THIS government spy on you under the pretext that they are protecting you, good luck with that road. And... "May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.” ~~ Samuel Adams Government is nothing more than a collection of Men. Men with power are inherently evil. Over time they will use that power against the people. You need only look throughout History to prove this statement and the United States is not immune from that demise. You might say that you don't care and that you will not suffer from it. But if you have children, they will. If that doesn't bother you then I'm glad I'm not one of your children. I have to leave this thread now, I am allowing it to become personal. No one seems to give a schit about the future, but everyone gripes about what the guberment does to them. Meanwhile they send their money to China to pay for bullets for their children/grandchildren. Keith 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybob Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 We don't know what we don't know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Traveler Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 I have no doubt that information is being collected from all sorts of our "smart" devices and internet, but then again exactly who is paying them and what good is the information provided except for advertising purposes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Richard Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 The idiot box is now smart. How cute! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators dtel Posted November 3, 2014 Author Moderators Share Posted November 3, 2014 I would imagine all the laptops and other computers with a built in cameras are really easy for others to spy with also, bet they can see some crazy stuff. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldenough Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 Dtel, my computer's built in camera has been taped over since I bought it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators dtel Posted November 3, 2014 Author Moderators Share Posted November 3, 2014 I don't blame you, I don't like the whole idea, I wonder how the smart Tv's do this, I guess there is a little camera somewhere on it ? I guess the next popular thing will be a website where you can go look at what these cameras are seeing, people are already posting every move they make and every thing they do on facebook, guess it's just the next step ? I did see an advertisement once for an app that let's you know when your friends are in the general area of your phone wherever you happen to be. So it tracks you and your friends, if they have something like this for civilians what is really going on is much worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twk123 Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 USA no longer we the people, Now we the government backed by the wealthiest 1 %....................................... Of course it is We the peoples fault, as We have handed over all the freedoms we once enjoyed. People used to make fun of the Movie Big Brother is Watching You Now we live it.............................. I live in Utah and drive by the huge NSA Facility every day. Its a massive draconian bunkerlike building you can see from the freeway. Its definitely a sobering reminder of what our government is up to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joessportster Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 when I was working in DC I drove by the NSA building right off 295 twice a day, the exit stated employees only, and a cop with lights rolling sat there 24-7 guarding the exit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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