mustang guy Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 In the world of conspicuous consumption, can anything really compare to this for absurdity? http://www.jewelryexchange.com/diamonddetails.aspx?diamondID=263081 Very easily: http://www.bluenile.com/diamond-details/LD04902446 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Richard Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 TAS=BS People who buy $1K+ power cords=stupid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moray james Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 not here to pee into the cornflakes you guys are having a bonding moment here. Just want to say that there are views which are opposed to yours. None of you need to look to know that cables are probably one of most volatile topics in audio. So there is a lot of debate. Many feel very differently than you do about cables, I do. I have been designing and building cables since I met up with David Saulz of Wire World then of Straight Wire and now Wire World. Dave was my first cable mentor and is a very nice guy. Calling people stupid for buying what they like the sound of is not a very inclusive method of insuring a balanced discussion but I get the impression that this is not what this thread is looking for. I expect better here at the Klipsch forum and you should too. Have a very happy Christmas and a better new year. Best regards Moray James. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moray james Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 Thanks mdeneen: I understand the feelings and the frustration. I remember telling Dave over dinner that the whole business looked to me to be a bit of a hoax and that it did not seem to be so very difficult to figure out. I got into this because I built up a bunch of cable ideas that Dave had suggested and then some more of my own and I was amazed by what I heard. Disagreement and arguments are good they foster discussion and help to develop fresh thinking. You can start a conflict or you can start a discussion. Hope your day today is a good one. The forum should strive to be open and to involve members to discuss and to share so we can learn it should be a safe place to ask what sometimes feel like stupid questions. Best regards Moray James. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Richard Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 (edited) Calling people stupid for buying what they like the sound of is not a very inclusive method of insuring a balanced discussion I did not call anyone stupid for buying something that they liked the sound of. They are stupid for spending stupid amounts of money on a power cord. There is no such thing as a stupid question, nor did I suggest there was. As far as power cords and audio AC power goes, use a large gauge wire, #12 or #10 would be good. Use hospital grade plugs and receptacles - they are made much better than contractor grade stuff, and offer measurable performance benefits. Easy to DIY and for way less than $100 each. Edited December 24, 2014 by Don Richard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moray james Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 oh ok Don that makes everything all better you didn't call me stupid I just am. So glad that you have saved me from myself and provided me with your wisdom. A simple I disagree or I think that you are wrong works a lot better don't you think? Have a great Christmas. Best regards Moray James. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallette Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 Well, I always insist on 100% copper... I've been of the persuasion for years that people can learn to detect differences from all sorts of differences from all sorts of things. I can tell a difference by moving a chair around in the room. What is stupid is to think you know what another person hears. As a more music oriented and less equipment oriented guy, I've made it my "speciality" to hear various microphones, placements, location qualities, encoding and recording methods, and such as opposed to cables, caps, etc. One insanity per audiophile is enough... Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike stehr Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 Say a guy is a super billionaire rich slob that happens to be a audio enthusiast, and he has a 300,000 dollar system with disposable cash to change/buy whatever he wants. Would a $1500 dollar power cord matter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muel Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 The good news Mr. James, is that none of the comments were aimed at you personally. [emoji3] As to what constitutes a stupid purchase, the most general definition is, "what the other guy bought." [emoji4] I'm sorry to say that I have been the "other guy" a few times. Fortunately it usually hasn't been too expensive except for the times it had to do with stupid contractors who were unable or unwilling to do the job as promised. I find blowing my nose or taking an antihistamine will change the sound as much or more than most equipment changes. Of course, if I take enough Benedryl then I don't hear anything 'cause I'm asleep. There's a very dark background you might say! Mark, I'm pleasantly surprised to see you using emoticons! Sometimes a picture will suffice after all. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallette Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 Mark, I'm pleasantly surprised to see you using emoticons! 12 step program... Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Richard Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 Say a guy is a super billionaire rich slob that happens to be a audio enthusiast, and he has a 300,000 dollar system with disposable cash to change/buy whatever he wants. Would a $1500 dollar power cord matter? It would prove that just because he has a lot of money doesn't mean he's smart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mustang guy Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 I can absolutely believe that speaker and interconnects can make a difference, but a power cord? I would hope it would be connected to a power conditioner for pure sine A/C, as plugging it into a wall outlet is only going to make a difference in the 6' it runs. I cannot for the life of me wrap my head around a power cable making any perceivable difference in audio. As for a millionaire spending money, that is a good thing. We want them to be consumers not savers. It's good for the economy. That is a fact! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallette Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 "...'er we go, 'er we go, 'er we go. It's the only words that we know!' (Sung to "Stars and Stripes Forever") Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris A Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 And for your last-minute Xmas shopping--for the audiophile that already owns his $10,000 cables: http://www.machinadynamica.com/machina31.htm Lowell Wood probably didn't have this in mind when he coined the phrase. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muel Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 Mark, I'm pleasantly surprised to see you using emoticons! Sometimes a picture will suffice after all. Hey , even a very old dog can learn new tricks! I'm not overdoing it, am I? Nope! Clear and concise communication. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minermark Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 I learned quite some time ago there are people in every hobby that can afford everything presented in the hobby, some real fact/logic based, and some Fantasy. I also learned you will never convince anyone who spends whatever it takes to attain "Their Sound" that they are nuts. My views are based on math/fact/logic and after throwing that out there for years, the only comeback from high end spenders is "I Can Hear The Difference", well when they say that, there is pretty much no point and nowhere to go with the conversation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallette Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 "I Can Hear The Difference", well when they say that, there is pretty much no point and nowhere to go with the conversation. End of story...never had a moments time for somebody who thinks they know what someone else is hearing. Dave 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimjimbo Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 Conspicuous consumption, stupidity, high end BS......look at my previous post in this thread....I stand by that with all conviction....and I'll bet she and her wonderful hubby buy solid silver power cords..... http://latenightcreep.com/2013/09/08/top-25-kim-kardashian-playboy-photos-nsfw/2/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike stehr Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 "Kim Kardashian is so sexy. Her butt is like a big mountain of pudding!" -Leopold Butters Scotch 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The History Kid Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 I love how one of the prerequisites to be a "true audiophile" who spends a ton of money on things like wires is that you have to be an absolute a**hole to everyone who thinks that notion is ridiculous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.