mark1101 Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 I would like to find one that decodes HDCD. A tube output stage would be a bonus. I think maybe one of Windows media players might decode HDCD but not really looking to use my PC to play CDs. Any that you know of would be appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris A Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 (edited) Tube output to PCA plugs? You're joking, right? Why not pipe the digital output (HDMI, USB, TOSLink, AES/EBU, etc.) through to your system DACs, which are going to be immune to common-ground noise sources--at least until they exit your preamp. I would recommend Oppo, but that's probably too low brow to be considered. Virtually any non-boutique disc player, including PS3's, will decode HDCD, but the format is obsolete. Microsoft discontinued the official HDCD website in 2005. In January 2007, there were roughly the same number of titles available on SACD as on HDCD-encoded CDs. You're right - there is an HDCD plugin for foobar2000 - and you can just convert the resulting tracks to 20-bit/44.1 kHz tracks and be done with it. Then you can edit them to get rid of the mastering curves applied to them. Chris Edited September 10, 2015 by Chris A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark1101 Posted September 10, 2015 Author Share Posted September 10, 2015 Answered my own question easy enough. Bunch of them. Advance Acoustic MCD 204 (CD Player)Arcam Diva DV 79 (DVD Player)Arcam Diva DV 135 (DVD Player)Arcam Diva DV 137 (DVD Player)Arcam FMJ DV 139 (DVD Player)Berkeley Audio Design Alpha DAC (DAC)Cambridge Audio Azur 650 BD (Blu-ray Player)Cayin CDT-15A (CD Player)CyberHome CH-DVD 635 (DVD-Player)Denon DBP-A100 (Blu-ray Player)Denon DBP-4010UD (Blu-ray Player)Denon DVD-A1UD (Blu-ray Player)Denon DVD-A11 (DVD/SACD Player)Denon DVD-A1XV (DVD/SACD Player)Denon DVD-A1XVA (DVD/SACD Player)Denon DVD 2800 mk2 (DVD/SACD Player)Denon DVD-2910 (DVD/SACD Player)Denon DVD-2930 (DVD/SACD Player)Denon DVD-3800 (DVD/SACD Player)Denon DVD-3910 (DVD/SACD Player)Denon DVD-3930 (DVD/SACD Player)Harman/Kardon FL-8370 (CD Multi Disc Player)Harman/Kardon HD-750 (CD Player)Linn Majik CD (CD Player)Mark Levinson ML 37 (CD Player)Mark Levinson ML 39 (CD Player)Mark Levinson ML 390S (CD Player)Mark Levinson No. 36 (DAC)Mark Levinson ML 360 (DAC)Mark Levinson ML 360S (DAC)Music Hall CD 25 (CD Player)NAD C 542 (CD Player)NAD M5 (SACD/CD Player)NAD M55 (SACD/DVD Player)NAD T 585 (SACD/DVD Player)Naim CDX2 (CD Player)Naim CD5x (CD Player)Naim CDS3 (CD Player)Naim CD555 (CD Player)OPPO BDP-80 (Blu-ray Player)OPPO BDP-83 (Blu-ray Player)OPPO BDP 93 (Blu-ray Player)OPPO BDP 95 (Blu-ray Player)OPPO DV-980H (DVD Player)OPPO DV-981HD (DVD Player)OPPO DV-983H (DVD Player)Original CD-A8T (CD Player)Panasonic DVD-S52 (DVD Player)Pioneer DVR-550H-S (DVD Player)Restek EPOS (CD Player) Rotel RCD-02 (CD Player)Rotel RCD-1072 (CD Player)Rotel RCD-991 AE (CD Player)T+A CD3000R (CD Player)Toshiba SD 500E (DVD Player)Vincent S1.1 (CD Player)Vincent S3 (CD Player)Vincent S5 (CD Player)Vincent S6 (CD Player) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willland Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 Answered my own question easy enough. Bunch of them. Advance Acoustic MCD 204 (CD Player) Arcam Diva DV 79 (DVD Player) Arcam Diva DV 135 (DVD Player) Arcam Diva DV 137 (DVD Player) Arcam FMJ DV 139 (DVD Player) Berkeley Audio Design Alpha DAC (DAC) Cambridge Audio Azur 650 BD (Blu-ray Player) Cayin CDT-15A (CD Player) CyberHome CH-DVD 635 (DVD-Player) Denon DBP-A100 (Blu-ray Player) Denon DBP-4010UD (Blu-ray Player) Denon DVD-A1UD (Blu-ray Player) Denon DVD-A11 (DVD/SACD Player) Denon DVD-A1XV (DVD/SACD Player) Denon DVD-A1XVA (DVD/SACD Player) Denon DVD 2800 mk2 (DVD/SACD Player) Denon DVD-2910 (DVD/SACD Player) Denon DVD-2930 (DVD/SACD Player) Denon DVD-3800 (DVD/SACD Player) Denon DVD-3910 (DVD/SACD Player) Denon DVD-3930 (DVD/SACD Player) Harman/Kardon FL-8370 (CD Multi Disc Player) Harman/Kardon HD-750 (CD Player) Linn Majik CD (CD Player) Mark Levinson ML 37 (CD Player) Mark Levinson ML 39 (CD Player) Mark Levinson ML 390S (CD Player) Mark Levinson No. 36 (DAC) Mark Levinson ML 360 (DAC) Mark Levinson ML 360S (DAC) Music Hall CD 25 (CD Player) NAD C 542 (CD Player) NAD M5 (SACD/CD Player) NAD M55 (SACD/DVD Player) NAD T 585 (SACD/DVD Player) Naim CDX2 (CD Player) Naim CD5x (CD Player) Naim CDS3 (CD Player) Naim CD555 (CD Player) OPPO BDP-80 (Blu-ray Player) OPPO BDP-83 (Blu-ray Player) OPPO BDP 93 (Blu-ray Player) OPPO BDP 95 (Blu-ray Player) OPPO DV-980H (DVD Player) OPPO DV-981HD (DVD Player) OPPO DV-983H (DVD Player) Original CD-A8T (CD Player) Panasonic DVD-S52 (DVD Player) Pioneer DVR-550H-S (DVD Player) Restek EPOS (CD Player) Rotel RCD-02 (CD Player) Rotel RCD-1072 (CD Player) Rotel RCD-991 AE (CD Player) T+A CD3000R (CD Player) Toshiba SD 500E (DVD Player) Vincent S1.1 (CD Player) Vincent S3 (CD Player) Vincent S5 (CD Player) Vincent S6 (CD Player) I love my NAD C542. Best sounding CD player I have ever owned and can be found used for less than $250.00 and maybe much less. Bill 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 I've had Cambridge, Rotel and Denon, all were good players. I had several oppos, maybe 5, just ok, nothing special. I'm sure Bills NAD, would sound fine. I've been looking at the Marantz 5007ud ,plays everything, 299 delivered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph Jove Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 This Yaqin SD-32A valve super-hifi HDCD player sounds very well. It's been discontinued, but you can grab one on EBay for around $600. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joessportster Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 This Yaqin SD-32A valve super-hifi HDCD player sounds very well. It's been discontinued, but you can grab one on EBay for around $600. Thats one cool looking cd player, even if you hated the sound it would be nice to look at Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pzannucci Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 I'll part with my DVD-3910 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark1101 Posted September 11, 2015 Author Share Posted September 11, 2015 Why not pipe the digital output (HDMI, USB, TOSLink, AES/EBU, etc.) through to your system DACs, which are going to be immune to common-ground noise sources--at least until they exit your preamp. Chris Having a tubed output stage allows choices and avoids the need for using an external tube buffer (of which I actually have a very nice one). I am feeding all my sources through a Benchmark DAC-2. I can choose digital or analog through it. If I choose analog it doesn't go through the DAC. It's a pass through. The DAC has 3 sets of outputs and feeds 3 different systems in my room. I enjoy listening to the tubed output just as much as the Benchmark DACed output. The Benchmark is an excellent DAC but what I found out is that on 16/44 it's really not any better than a decent CD player. It excels on the higher res stuff. I'd put the tube analog output stage of my simple Jolida JD-100 up against the analog stage of a "hi end" Oppo or other mid-fi DAC. Those certainly aren't concentrating on providing the best analog stages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris A Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 Agreed - I wouldn't recommend analog output with players at all - use the higher quality DACs and analog circuitry in your preamp, especially to be able to decode things like HDCD, etc. so that you don't have "pass through" effects using analog circuitry: digital transmission has zero losses if parity is enabled in your digital bus. Delaying conversion to analog to as late in the hardware stream as possible has significant fidelity-enhancing properties. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark1101 Posted September 11, 2015 Author Share Posted September 11, 2015 Yup. I get it and don't disagree. It's just that sometimes it honestly sounds better to listen to the tubed output vs. the digital output. I think you get what I'm saying. I feed both into the DAC. With a a button push I can listen to either. This way both versions are available to all 3 systems. Just another choice you get for free with the equipment. I have a ton of HDCDs. The entire Grateful Dead library is HDCD...........even the newest stuff like the shows they just did this past July. I never actually heard an HDCD played on an HDCD player. A little embarassed to say that since I have collected Dead CDs for years. That said, I will eventually get to it, and as long as the player has a digital output should be able to use it just like I describe I am doing now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris A Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 The entire Grateful Dead library is HDCD NOW I get it... I'm actually serious about the remastering thing--you will likely find that you hear amazing things if you undo deep bass attenuation below 50-60 Hz and smooth the highs out a bit. You'll also find yourself cranking it more than a bit, too. :emotion-29: :emotion-29: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark1101 Posted September 11, 2015 Author Share Posted September 11, 2015 I need to learn the music fix trick. I just don't have the time to sit down and do that.........or the desire really. It is mind boggling to think I would need to fix my entire music collection. You need to develop a device with some SW that detects the recording defects and fixes it automatically as it plays. I'll buy one from you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willland Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 I'll part with my DVD-3910 Very nice solid built player. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris A Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 You need to develop a device with some SW that detects the recording defects and fixes it automatically as it plays. I'll buy one from you. Actually there is a way to analyze tracks and do a batch run fix of them (i.e., many tracks processed in series), but...the real value to me is in the fine tuning. I don't know how to automate that yet. When I do, you'll be one of the first to know. That might be worth something (in terms of IP) Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinmi Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 I've got a Shanling T-100 cd player with tube output that decodes HDCD. I have a few HDCD's, but I cannot say that I was impressed by them. I can see why the format went away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swb Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 The EAD DSP-7000 Series III is outstanding. There are a few on ebay, but you must get the Series II version to get HDCD decoding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swb Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 Series III Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wuzzzer Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 On 4/4/2024 at 11:43 AM, swb said: The EAD DSP-7000 Series III is outstanding. There are a few on ebay, but you must get the Series II version to get HDCD decoding. Welcome! Any reason why you joined to reply to an almost nine year old post? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woofers and Tweeters Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 On 4/4/2024 at 12:43 PM, swb said: The EAD DSP-7000 Series III is outstanding. What is in the rest of your system? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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