Shakeydeal Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 When I first saw that listening room pic in another thread, I thought it was a dealer I used to go to in Cary years ago. Didn't realize it was the Cary Audio listening room. Fantastic. I owned an SLP-98 years ago. Nice preamp. I am actually taking delivery of an SLI-80 integrated amp today. Looking forward to it. Shakey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guywithwine Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 (edited) Billy Wright is the President of CARY AUDIO. Billy is explaining the CAD-211 production run they were working on. Monica has been with CARY for 13 years and was showing the "old" schematics. She can assemble these blind folded. Will show more specifics soon. Edited July 6, 2018 by guywithwine incorrect model number Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guywithwine Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 Have asked Forum member Daryl Berk to comment on the pics. Daryl is the Product Manager for CARY AUDIO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Travis In Austin Posted May 11, 2018 Author Moderators Share Posted May 11, 2018 3 hours ago, guywithwine said: Have asked Forum member Daryl Berk to comment on the pics. Daryl is the Product Manager for CARY AUDIO. So where's he been hiding? Looking forward to hearing what he has to say. He has a lot of fans here. It would be interesting to hear what he thinks would be the perfect match for 2-way Jubilees. Travis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dberk Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 Hello All! Daryl Berk from Cary Audio here. Thanks for all the great posts. I’m on vacation and don’t have easy access to Wi-Fi, but hope to be able to get online Friday morning. At that time I would be very happy to chime in as I’m all thumbs (literally) using my phone see you tomorrow! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvu80 Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 20 minutes ago, Dberk said: Hello All! Daryl Berk from Cary Audio here. Thanks for all the great posts. I’m on vacation and don’t have easy access to Wi-Fi, but hope to be able to get online Friday morning. At that time I would be very happy to chime in as I’m all thumbs (literally) using my phone see you tomorrow! Hi Daryl, big welcome to the Klipsch forums! Great first post, I'm looking forward to hear your thoughts on anything audio you care to share. Enjoy your vacation, we will see you when you get back. -Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dberk Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 (edited) Hello again! Well, I finally have some Wi-Fi and a computer with a real keyboard for the moment. So, I better take advantage. To address some of the specific questions in some of the posts, the preamp being built is an SLP-98, which is our “mid-level” preamplifier. As for the mono block, that is the formidable CAD-211FE! Klipsch and Cary Audio have a long history of synergy. For the purpose of this topic I’m going to take for granted we’re mostly taking about the Heritage Series and or Jubilee’s. As a company, we manufacture various tube and solid state products. To break it down for simplification purposes, we essentially produce two styles of tube circuits, SET and Ultralinear. Each have different various styles, i.e. integrated amplifier or power amplifier, and sizes/price points. From our perspective (keeping in mind we also produce terrific solid state amplifiers) Klipsch and Cary tubes is a combination hard to beat on many levels. At minimum, we’d recommend using tube power on the mids and highs. Tubes can also sound wonderful on bass bins or the “woofers”. As for which style of tube circuit, well that’s a bit more complex. Let’s first address power at to take that part out of the equation. With the efficiency of the Heritage Series and Jubilee, any of our tube based products will have the power to drive them. What one most consider is the size of their space, the volume level they desire and the type of source material they will use, and is it a 2-channel or HT system. The SET designs are single ended triode (Class A). This is a very different circuit then utralinear but when it comes to 2-channel, lighter genres without the need for earthshaking bass in favor of wonderfully textured bass, the SET cannot be beat. It is magical on a scale its own. One could combine SET on the mids/highs and use solid state on the bass if they require harder hitting bass for HT or other more modern musical genres. SET and or biamping is certainly a bit more expensive. The ultralinear amplifiers and integrated amps are Class AB with some designs having a triode mode, which is all Class A but cuts the power output in half (Triode is not SET). All AB amp even in ultralinear mode will run in Class A for a small portion then switch over to make the Class AB. Our ultralinear designs overall are a bit more economical with greater output power while exploiting all the advantages of tubes. The exception is our CAD-211FE mono block. They are our most expensive amplifier and offer fantastic top to bottom sound with very high power with any source material. They are in use in many recoding and master studios around the world. In a nutshell, ultrlinear is more affordable, higher power, more “linear” sounding and are great with all musical genres. SET are more niche for incredible musicality with a greater mid-range richness and typically for lower listening levels on lighter genres of music. Of course one could biamp using SET on mids/highs and use utralinear or solid state on the bass for the “best of everything” scenario. I hope this helps. Many customer and companies around the world have discovered the magic of Cary Audio with Klipsch Heritage. If I can answer any additional questions, please let me know -Daryl Berk Cary Audio Edited May 11, 2018 by Dberk 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Travis In Austin Posted May 11, 2018 Author Moderators Share Posted May 11, 2018 30 minutes ago, Dberk said: Hello again! Well, I finally have some Wi-Fi and a computer with a real keyboard for the moment. So, I better take advantage. To address some of the specific questions in some of the posts, the preamp being built is an SLP-98, which is our “mid-level” preamplifier. As for the mono block, that is the formidable CAD-211FE! Klipsch and Cary Audio have a long history of synergy. For the purpose of this topic I’m going to take for granted we’re mostly taking about the Heritage Series and or Jubilee’s. As a company, we manufacture various tube and solid state products. To break it down for simplification purposes, we essentially produce two styles of tube circuits, SET and Ultralinear. Each have different various styles, i.e. integrated amplifier or power amplifier, and sizes/price points. From our perspective (keeping in mind we also produce terrific solid state amplifiers) Klipsch and Cary tubes is a combination hard to beat on many levels. At minimum, we’d recommend using tube power on the mids and highs. Tubes can also sound wonderful on bass bins or the “woofers”. As for which style of tube circuit, well that’s a bit more complex. Let’s first address power at to take that part out of the equation. With the efficiency of the Heritage Series and Jubilee, any of our tube based products will have the power to drive them. What one most consider is the size of their space, the volume level they desire and the type of source material they will use, and is it a 2-channel or HT system. The SET designs are single ended triode (Class A). This is a very different circuit then utralinear but when it comes to 2-channel, lighter genres without the need for earthshaking bass in favor of wonderfully textured bass, the SET cannot be beat. It is magical on a scale its own. One could combine SET on the mids/highs and use solid state on the bass if they require harder hitting bass for HT or other more modern musical genres. SET and or biamping is certainly a bit more expensive. The ultralinear amplifiers and integrated amps are Class AB with some designs having a triode mode, which is all Class A but cuts the power output in half (Triode is not SET). All AB amp even in ultralinear mode will run in Class A for a small portion then switch over to make the Class AB. Our ultralinear designs overall are a bit more economical with greater output power while exploiting all the advantages of tubes. The exception is our CAD-211FE mono block. They are our most expensive amplifier and offer fantastic top to bottom sound with very high power with any source material. They are in use in many recoding and master studios around the world. In a nutshell, ultrlinear is more affordable, higher power, more “linear” sounding and are great with all musical genres. SET are more niche for incredible musicality with a greater mid-range richness and typically for lower listening levels on lighter genres of music. Of course one could biamp using SET on mids/highs and use utralinear or solid state on the bass for the “best of everything” scenario. I hope this helps. Many customer and companies around the world have discovered the magic of Cary Audio with Klipsch Heritage. If I can answer any additional questions, please let me know -Daryl Berk Cary Audio Daryl: Thank you for that great post. I believe @mikebse2a3 runs your AD 2a3Ii integrated amp and CAD 2A3SE monoblocks, I am not sure if he is using those together or if he is switching them in and out. You have to bi-amp the Jubilees because they require an external crossover. Some run passive, but a lot run active crossovers. More than a few run tube amps on the top section, and SS on the LF. Travis 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Travis In Austin Posted May 11, 2018 Author Moderators Share Posted May 11, 2018 The last of the photos I resized. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Shakeydeal Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 Daryl, On a side note, I sent a message regarding tube substitution through the Cary Audio website on Monday. Today is Friday and no response. Is this normal? Thx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Travis In Austin Posted May 12, 2018 Author Moderators Share Posted May 12, 2018 7 hours ago, Shakeydeal said: Daryl, On a side note, I sent a message regarding tube substitution through the Cary Audio website on Monday. Today is Friday and no response. Is this normal? Thx Dude, they are in Munich, Germany for the worlds largest high end audio show. I think it is probably pretty normal for every high end audio manufacturer. Kind of like January for CES. I would shoot then another email or call next week. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvel Posted May 12, 2018 Share Posted May 12, 2018 The Western Electric folks are also in Munich... Bruce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvel Posted May 12, 2018 Share Posted May 12, 2018 I would add that I should have a tour of the new Western Electric facility in Rossville, GA within a couple of months (hopefully). Besides the WE 300B production, they have been showing their new 300B amplifier and CD player. The stereo 300B is built on a single PCB, with a SS power supply. The CD player will do 192k. More to come! Bruce 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mustang_flht Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 On 5/11/2018 at 7:04 PM, Shakeydeal said: Daryl, On a side note, I sent a message regarding tube substitution through the Cary Audio website on Monday. Today is Friday and no response. Is this normal? THX In 2016, I had done the same thing by contacting the technical support of their site to ask them about changing the valve rectify on my SLI50. He had fussed that I do a relaunch on the commercial contact of their site after ten days and the technician then quickly answered me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Travis In Austin Posted May 13, 2018 Author Moderators Share Posted May 13, 2018 22 hours ago, Marvel said: I would add that I should have a tour of the new Western Electric facility in Rossville, GA within a couple of months (hopefully). Besides the WE 300B production, they have been showing their new 300B amplifier and CD player. The stereo 300B is built on a single PCB, with a SS power supply. The CD player will do 192k. More to come! Bruce Great news Bruce, thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pallpoul Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 The amp in the picture showing the CAd 120S MKII’s is mine. It was being serviced for a minor him that they fixed ! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dberk Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 On 5/11/2018 at 1:04 PM, Shakeydeal said: Daryl, On a side note, I sent a message regarding tube substitution through the Cary Audio website on Monday. Today is Friday and no response. Is this normal? Thx Tech support can be reached at techsupport@caryaudio.com. We have been a been out of pocket last week due to the Munich show. If you do have a persistent issue contacting service,. please feel free to email me directly at daryl@caryaudio.com. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dberk Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 On a side note, forums are a fantastic way for folks of common interest to communicate and share information. However, Cary Audio as a company does not monitor forums because we feel they are the consumers domain. So, if anyone does need sales, customer service, or technical assistance and posts it here, we many not see it in a timely fashion or perhaps at all. Therefore, don't hesitate to contact us directly. That being said, I will try to jump in under this Topic from time to time and comment where appropriate. Thanks again and enjoy your Klipsch (and hopefully Cary Audio) systems! Sales, consulting, or CS issues: Daryl@caryaudio.com Repair, parts, upgrades, service issues: techsupport@caryaudio.com 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mustang_flht Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 On 5/11/2018 at 6:12 PM, dwilawyer said: Daryl: Thank you for that great post. I believe @mikebse2a3 runs your AD 2a3Ii integrated amp and CAD 2A3SE monoblocks, I am not sure if he is using those together or if he is switching them in and out. You have to bi-amp the Jubilees because they require an external crossover. Some run passive, but a lot run active crossovers. More than a few run tube amps on the top section, and SS on the LF. Travis As far as I am concerned, I am in passive bi-amplification. A Mc 2125 in the bottom and the fabulous Cary SLI 50 (version 1 : 2 x 30W in class A) and I am happy like that since 1998. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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