Chris A Posted October 17, 2020 Author Share Posted October 17, 2020 I'd like to pull any remaining conversation back to those having degrees in law and are practicing or have practiced, since that's the title of the thread. Now that I've revealed the underlying purpose of my questions, I'll back up my request with this: my ballot for the 2020 (November) election has 22 judicial races on it, in addition to the one or two races that are favorites of the press (and seemingly everyone else). That's something like 40 different backgrounds/CVs to read (some races are uncontested), and some of those races have very little difference between the names on individual races. If each voter were serious about their citizenship (and I can see some sniping here on that essential function--which I don't appreciate, which I believe to be critical to the proper functioning of a representative democracy/republic), that's a lot to ask of voters, and having to do in-depth searches for voters guide (those documents put together by newspapers and other organizations--such as the League of Women Voters, etc.). So the real issue is deciding among these races of unknown candidates and even what function each court possesses. That's not a trivial matter, in my view. Chris 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Matthews Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, Chris A said: I'd like to pull any remaining conversation back to those having degrees in law and are practicing or have practiced, since that's the title of the thread. Now that I've revealed the underlying purpose of my questions, I'll back up my request with this: my ballot for the 2020 (November) election has 22 judicial races on it, in addition to the one or two races that are favorites of the press (and seemingly everyone else). That's something like 40 different backgrounds/CVs to read (some races are uncontested), and some of those races have very little difference between the names on individual races. If each voter were serious about their citizenship (and I can see some sniping here on that essential function--which I don't appreciate, which I believe to be critical to the proper functioning of a representative democracy/republic), that's a lot to ask of voters, and having to do in-depth searches for voters guide (those documents put together by newspapers and other organizations--such as the League of Women Voters, etc.). So the real issue is deciding among these races of unknown candidates and even what function each court possesses. That's not a trivial matter, in my view. Chris I recommend you look at endorsements by local bar associations. It's one step closer to people "in the know." 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybob Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, Jeff Matthews said: I recommend you look at endorsements by local bar associations. It's one step closer to people "in the know." Agree! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybob Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris A Posted October 17, 2020 Author Share Posted October 17, 2020 8 minutes ago, Jeff Matthews said: I recommend you look at endorsements by local bar associations. It's one step closer to people "in the know." Thanks--that helped a lot...for instance: https://s3.amazonaws.com/membercentralcdn/sitedocuments/tcbar/tcbar/0173/1639173.pdf?AWSAccessKeyId=AKIAIHKD6NT2OL2HNPMQ&Expires=1602953520&Signature=T%2FhJqoxGVohZuSqGH9h17eQhMIs%3D&response-content-disposition=inline%3B filename%3D"2020-Judicial-Candidate-Poll-Results.pdf"%3B filename*%3DUTF-8''2020%2DJudicial%2DCandidate%2DPoll%2DResults%2Epdf Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris A Posted October 17, 2020 Author Share Posted October 17, 2020 Now that I got a good answer to my questions, I'll release my request for attorney-only responses in this thread. Have a good day! Chris 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybob Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 On 10/17/2020 at 1:06 PM, Chris A said: Now that I got a good answer to my questions, I'll release my request for attorney-only responses in this thread. Have a good day! Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babadono Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 23 hours ago, DizRotus said: Failing to decide is always wrong. "If you choose not to choose, you still have made a choice" --Neil Peart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Traveler Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 1 hour ago, Chris A said: Thanks--that helped a lot...for instance: https://s3.amazonaws.com/membercentralcdn/sitedocuments/tcbar/tcbar/0173/1639173.pdf?AWSAccessKeyId=AKIAIHKD6NT2OL2HNPMQ&Expires=1602953520&Signature=T%2FhJqoxGVohZuSqGH9h17eQhMIs%3D&response-content-disposition=inline%3B filename%3D"2020-Judicial-Candidate-Poll-Results.pdf"%3B filename*%3DUTF-8''2020%2DJudicial%2DCandidate%2DPoll%2DResults%2Epdf Chris I click on this link and get an error code. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris A Posted October 17, 2020 Author Share Posted October 17, 2020 First link from this list: https://www.tarrantbar.org/index.cfm?pg=judicial-polls-and-links Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DizRotus Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 1 hour ago, babadono said: "If you choose not to choose, you still have made a choice" --Neil Peart Voting? Yes. Judicial rulings? No. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigerwoodKhorns Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 14 hours ago, Jeff Matthews said: What is "interstate commerce?" I studied engineering where 'laws' were very solid and not open to argument and twisting. F = MA. E = mc^2 When I studied law and learned about the commerce clause I was completely disgusted that this is all just a game played by power grabbing fat men in suits. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilbert Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 18 hours ago, DizRotus said: The fact that the U. S. Supreme Court doe not always reach a unanimous decision demonstrates that even at the highest level there can be honest disagreements. I have to ask.... sorry,...... what makes you believe that a disagreement between SCOTUS's is "Honest" and not "Political"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Matthews Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 2 hours ago, tigerwoodKhorns said: I studied engineering where 'laws' were very solid and not open to argument and twisting. F = MA. E = mc^2 When I studied law and learned about the commerce clause I was completely disgusted that this is all just a game played by power grabbing fat men in suits. It's pretty disingenuous, isn't it? Wickard vs Filburn held a federal statute prohibiting growing crops on your own land, to be consumed by livestock on your own land, is a valid exercise of Congress's power to regulate interstate commerce. Once you make that leap, it's pretty clear how it really works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJkizak Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 Clarity. Shiela Bair had it. JJK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OO1 Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 On 10/16/2020 at 7:57 PM, Jeff Matthews said: Some judges like to intimidate mere mortal attorneys. I dislike that very much when it happens. There is no reason for judges to get huffy and puffy when counsel are all being professional and courteous. reminds me of a movie scene - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybob Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 On 10/17/2020 at 12:38 PM, billybob said: That said, the ABA and your state bar association is worth noting. As to the information you are able to attain there, would keep an open mind, as to research on sitting judge. Agree... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigerwoodKhorns Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 19 hours ago, Jeff Matthews said: It's pretty disingenuous, isn't it? Wickard vs Filburn held a federal statute prohibiting growing crops on your own land, to be consumed by livestock on your own land, is a valid exercise of Congress's power to regulate interstate commerce. Once you make that leap, it's pretty clear how it really works. That is putting it mildly. When presented t us in law school, the professor used civil right as an example. A red herring to pull on heart strings. If there is meat in a cooler that came from out of state then a restaurant is involved in interstate commerce so the civil rights act applies. Definitely the right outcome, but the wrong reason. Other students were so impressed, I was appalled at how this game is played. Think about it, virtually all of the federal governments power is based on a power grab by the Supreme Court. I am not saying that we should have strong state governments and a weak federal government as originally planned by the founding fathers, but the fact that the entire system is based on such a lie discredits the entire system. Can you imagine explaining to the founders that the strongest government has most of its power come from an argument about the commerce clause that would get you laughed out of court. I seem the remember that there is a way to amend the constitution. Did that ever get used? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybob Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 15 minutes ago, RandyH000 said: reminds me of a movie scene - Paper Chase...the professor... John Millhouse? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigerwoodKhorns Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 Similar topic, why do we still vote for judges? We do not live in one horse towns anymore. I have no idea who most of these people are an d just follow the newspaper's picks. I do remember one person from law school running a few years ago. In class, this person wanted to know "yea, what's the deal with those tags on mattresses.' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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