Dale W Posted June 12, 2004 Share Posted June 12, 2004 Does anyone have plans for or a internal exploded view of the Belle ? I'd consider taking a crack at building one , or a pair if i could find some exact plans . Any help guys ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackBurner Posted June 12, 2004 Share Posted June 12, 2004 These really suck but it's all i have in my filing system on the belle . http://www.onthenod.com/LaBelle.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Klappenberger Posted June 12, 2004 Share Posted June 12, 2004 That drawing is NOT a Belle! I have looked inside mine and they don't look like that. Al K. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Mobley Posted June 14, 2004 Share Posted June 14, 2004 I'm interested in this too. Any plans anywhere for the Belle? I don't recall ever seeing any. Al, you've seen the insides of yours, how hard do you think it would be to derive the dimensions of the individual pieces of wood? Do-able at all? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daddy Dee Posted June 14, 2004 Share Posted June 14, 2004 If HDBRBuilder is out there, his take on this would be interesting. I think he could do precisely what you are wondering about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnA Posted June 14, 2004 Share Posted June 14, 2004 I'm pretty sure that is not a Belle Klipsch, but it looks like a nice design. I think I'd rather have more braces and single ply walls. How big it it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Robin Posted June 14, 2004 Share Posted June 14, 2004 I would also like to see some plans for building the Belle's. I have asked the ones on ebay that sell the plans for LaScala`s and Khorns but they dont have them. So if anyone comes up with them i would like to see them. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frzninvt Posted June 14, 2004 Share Posted June 14, 2004 There is a forum member (Don) that has built mini Belle's and Khorn's to scale so he must have plans I would guess. He is in Vermont and I do have his email address I can contact him if you like. I wonder if he has those mini Belle's for sale still, hhmmmmmm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Klappenberger Posted June 14, 2004 Share Posted June 14, 2004 Guys, Opening a Belle to get dimensions would be difficult and probably only half the story. I'd get up with HDBRbuilder. I think he as talked about the difficulty in building Belles before. Al K. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rdmarsiii Posted June 14, 2004 Share Posted June 14, 2004 I want to build some Belles... Very doubtful, but do you think Klipsch would loan us the plans? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwardre Posted June 14, 2004 Share Posted June 14, 2004 I built a Belle to match my 'factory' '74 Belle center to use as a rear center. Piece of cake if you have a decent table saw and some woodworking aptitude. Cuts were very straightforward. I have several sets of Belle plans, but what worked best for me was to use the plans then verify the measurements again to make sure. Took about 2 weeks as I only had an hour or so after work to work on it. Need plans? I believe that I have the originals stowed somewhere....they are cryptic but with them and additional 'just to make sure' measurements you too should have no trouble. I'll root around for the plans, if you are interested, shoot me a PM and I will send you what I have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Mobley Posted June 14, 2004 Share Posted June 14, 2004 You've got PM and email. Thanks for being willing to help out here. When you say use the plans and measure, do you mean measure the existing factory Belle? Could it be done with no Belle laying around to compare to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rdmarsiii Posted June 14, 2004 Share Posted June 14, 2004 I guess itll have to be done that way, I dont have a Belle to measure it to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwardre Posted June 14, 2004 Share Posted June 14, 2004 Hi Tom....yup, got your PM.....it'll take me a couple of days to rustle up the plans then I'll send them to you along with any notations I can think of. "Yes", that is what I meant, looking at the plans and answering my own questions by measuring the factory Belle....you know how it is with plans, they are 2D for a 3D world. I can assure you that you will have questions, if you do, just send me your questions and I'll confirm measurements, take pics, or whatever it takes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formica Posted June 14, 2004 Share Posted June 14, 2004 ---------------- On 6/14/2004 1:48:01 PM edwardre wrote: I'll root around for the plans, if you are interested, shoot me a PM and I will send you what I have. ---------------- I'd be interested as well... I could PM you... or how about getting them posted on here? BTW, last i heard, Don still had his mini-belles and a pair of mini-klipschorns he build as well. He has some great woodworking skills... Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dale W Posted June 14, 2004 Author Share Posted June 14, 2004 Hey ED !! Could you send them to me as well ? I did some inter-net searching and came up with a few hand drawn pictures and some plans over at the bd design forum , those guys build just about anything over there . some good lascalas plans as well , even just the lascala bass bin plans ( for use with a top oris horn ) . Andy !! where are you ??? Theres so many guys here that want a belle as a center channel old andy should come out of retirement for awhile Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WMcD Posted June 14, 2004 Share Posted June 14, 2004 I'd like to give an opinion here. And perhaps dispell some worry. It is that there is no magic to an exact replication of either the Belle or the LaScala. When you start off, there is the natural thought that any small deviation in a home built unit, away from the Belle or LS, from the factory unit, is going to lead to a disaster in performance. But that can't be true. The Belle and LS are dimensionally different in many respects. Yet in performance, PWK compairs them as pretty much equivalent. So there is no reason to worry about small deviations at all. Naturally, the back box has to sealed and good woodworking skills are necesssary. You may see where my argumement is going. If your error in dimensions in making an LS is off, then it looks more like a Belle. And if your error in making a Belle is off, then it is looks more like an LS. But both are equivalent. Such sophistry aside, the reality is that these designs are pretty much based on the same parameters. Those being horn length, mouth size, back volume, and throat size. A few inches here or there is not going to make a difference. Gil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvel Posted June 16, 2004 Share Posted June 16, 2004 Tom, If, when you get the plans, I would pay for a copy. I will also try to make up a 3D rendering (exploded view) of one as well, as I did with the LaScalas. Marvel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Mobley Posted June 16, 2004 Share Posted June 16, 2004 marvel, that's a cool offer. consider it done. Edwarde, I sent you PM and email, but the Klipsch server is unable to contact/connect to the email server in your profile. looks like an address at *****valleygr***.com? is it still valid? might want to check into it. Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formica Posted June 16, 2004 Share Posted June 16, 2004 ---------------- On 6/16/2004 7:02:40 AM Marvel wrote: 3D rendering (exploded view) of one as well, as I did with the LaScalas ---------------- I've been wanting to mention that your 3D rendering came out realy nice on the LaScalas... A Klipschorn would probably be too complex? Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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