funkyhambone Posted August 9, 2005 Share Posted August 9, 2005 well it looks like i have found what i have been looking for. i am going on a roadtrip this weekend to purchase some 1972 walnut oiled type b khorns. he sent both woofers to klipsch several years ago to be reconed. he has owned them for 25 years and he is the second owner. they have the aa crossover. what is the consensus on this year's model????? i own 6 cornwalls and two heresy and i have never had to recone a woofer. have i been really lucky? should i have any concerns??? looking forward to the knowledge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazytubepower Posted August 9, 2005 Share Posted August 9, 2005 Well he probably just blew the woofer's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daddy Dee Posted August 9, 2005 Share Posted August 9, 2005 I think they would be very good. I have got 73's and like them alot. One thing cool about this vintage is they have the old PWK monogram pie slice logo. The crossovers will almost certainly need to have fresh caps installed. Not a big deal. at all. Enjoy. post pics if you can. Congrats!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwinr Posted August 9, 2005 Share Posted August 9, 2005 ---------------- On 8/9/2005 10:51:27 PM funkyhambone wrote: well it looks like i have found what i have been looking for... ---------------- Congratulations. They should be great loudspeakers. Let us know how you get on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scriven Posted August 10, 2005 Share Posted August 10, 2005 Welcome to the forum! Congratulations on your new/old Khorns! I have '72s and love them! I don't know why you would need to recone the woofers. It is not age. Maybe you could ask? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joessportster Posted August 10, 2005 Share Posted August 10, 2005 the woofers would not deteriate around the edges as many foam edge speakers do so the only reason to have them reconed would be damage (blown for what ever reason Joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colterphoto1 Posted August 10, 2005 Share Posted August 10, 2005 Who on earth would blow two woofers at the same time. I would think that either some catastrophic hookup occurred, he played 1812 too loudly, or was just thinking of 'freshening up' the old guys. But do ask. Michael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groz Posted August 10, 2005 Share Posted August 10, 2005 Sorry to butt in but this is my first go on a forum and I couldn't work out how to start something !!. I need help, I have a late set of Klipschorns, they are set up correctly, in phase and in good nick. I am using them with gear I am familiar with. My problems are that the treble is rolled off (nowt above 17khz at all!) and the bass is very light (not much below 60hz). The speakers also lack transparency. I waited a long time for these speakers and words cannot express my disapointment. Any ideas would be gratefully recieved. Many thanks. GrOz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frzninvt Posted August 10, 2005 Share Posted August 10, 2005 Sounds like your crossovers need to be refreshed with newer parts as they have deteriorated over the years. In addition, the tweeters may need fresh diaphrams too if they are 25-30 years old. With a little investment you can bring them back to 100%+! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groz Posted August 10, 2005 Share Posted August 10, 2005 My speakers are a 2000 pair with almost no use, its very unlikely that the crossovers will have deteriorated and the tweeters sound fine, they just don't reach up. Both speakers behave identically. Thanks. Paul. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricktate Posted August 10, 2005 Share Posted August 10, 2005 Do you have them sealed in to the corners?The tailboards need to sealed to the wall.Not sure about the high freq. sound problem maybe the tweeters are blown easy to check though. Rick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groz Posted August 10, 2005 Share Posted August 10, 2005 Speakers are well sealed in the corners. I notice that the specs do actually show a droopy treble. The speakers sound fine in isolation (though lacking in air and a bit light), compare them with almost any other good speaker and suddenly you hear all the things that they are (or more accurately are not) doing. They fill the room well and image OK but sound a bit opaque when compared with other speakers. Dynamics etc are excellent, its just that they sound like a very big small speaker !!. I thought about supertweeters and subs but then I'm still stuck with the opaque midband............ I just hope someone here can help because they look excellent in the room. Cheers . Paul. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricktate Posted August 10, 2005 Share Posted August 10, 2005 Try checking the all the connections on the crossovers and check the tweeters with ohm meter.Rick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groz Posted August 10, 2005 Share Posted August 10, 2005 I'll do that when I get home. What should the tweeters read?. I know they work at all because they'll both play a 16khz test tone. Thanks mate. GrOz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricktate Posted August 10, 2005 Share Posted August 10, 2005 Hi funkyhambone???well i bought some 1974 Ks and in the process of restorng them i found a lot of airleaks in the bass bin so that may be why he needed to recone.So you may have to check the bass bin and seal it up easy to do though.rick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parrot Posted August 10, 2005 Share Posted August 10, 2005 Hi Groz, Khorns taper off at the extreme highs, but what music are you wanting to hear above 17KHz? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Posted August 10, 2005 Share Posted August 10, 2005 congrats - get ready to be blown away by how much better they are! make sure you have corners! my hearing tapers off at 12kHz, but speakers that go to 22kHz still sound better in the treble... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parrot Posted August 10, 2005 Share Posted August 10, 2005 funkyhambone, 1972 was a fine year for Khorns, not that I would reject *any* year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrestonTom Posted August 10, 2005 Share Posted August 10, 2005 Jim, Congratulations on the K-Horns. I am certain that you will love them. I would suggest that initially, do not worry about changing them. Just enjoy them! Although, do follow the advice about properly placing them in corners and try to get the listening chair to form an right triangle. (the first issue is quite important). -Enjoy .... P Groz, First off, do not panic! As pointed out above there is not much music above 17kHz and secondly you quite probably do not have much hearing up there either. I assume you are a male and past adolesence. I also assume that perhaps you have worked with power tools, listened to live pop music, ridden motorcycles .... Well the bad news is that you may not have the high frequency hearing that you used to have. If you are using a test tone and noticing that it is not as loud when you go up to 17kHz, that could be your hearing, it could be the speakers, or it could be limited bandwidth on some of the electronics (unlikely, but are you using a tube equipment ...) Regarding the low frequency bass. This could easily be room acoustics. The wavelengths are quite long and these are not easily broken up by drapes and carpet etc. Try a narrow band of noise instead of a tone or listen/measure at other locations. Actually I have gotten ahead of myself, first determine if the K-Horns are set up properly: tight in a corner. This is a must. Good luck, -Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunnysal Posted August 10, 2005 Share Posted August 10, 2005 remember put new caps in the crossovers, perhaps replace the coils with some litz wire versions, that should give you back the clarity (at both ends) the klipschorns once had. regards, tony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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