Speedball Posted October 16, 2005 Share Posted October 16, 2005 I am all for you putting testimonials on your website, but billboarding the request on the Klipsch Forum is a bit much. "billboarding" is an odd word and I don't see anything wrong with it......so what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOSValves Posted October 16, 2005 Author Share Posted October 16, 2005 The absolute fact here is KLIPSCH has come out when these very same arguments were raised in the past and point blank stated THEY DO NOT MIND! They feel that Dean, AL, Bob and myself help support there products and are a welcome contribution. You know this is correct!! Unless they come out and say they have changed this policy or state that I have stepped over the line. This is absolutely none of any of you three gripers business. Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan Songer Posted October 16, 2005 Share Posted October 16, 2005 Craig, I will post what I want where I want to post it unless the people who OWN this website ask me to do differently. If it's OK with Klipsch then BY ALL MEANS continue with your marketing program, no matter HOW bad it makes you look! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Mandaville Posted October 16, 2005 Share Posted October 16, 2005 Craig: "This is absolutely none of any of you three gripers business." LOL![] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deang Posted October 16, 2005 Share Posted October 16, 2005 DON'T buy Craig's amps, buy MY networks - mine! mine! mine! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOSValves Posted October 16, 2005 Author Share Posted October 16, 2005 Craig, I will post what I want where I want to post it unless the people who OWN this website ask me to do differently. If it's OK with Klipsch then BY ALL MEANS continue with your marketing program, no matter HOW bad it makes you look! I believe they have ask you to stop before! I've never been banned can you say that? Keep up the bull and I bet you end up gone again. I'd like to hear from how many people think this looks bad. Its just a simple request that was way easier to do this way then the way you suggest and will most likely bring back better results. Keeping crapping in my thread and see what happens. Your breaking way more rules then I am. Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan Songer Posted October 16, 2005 Share Posted October 16, 2005 DON'T buy Craig's amps, buy MY networks - mine! mine! mine! I did buy a pair of your networks. Then I sold them a few months later at a loss because they didn't sound as good as the ones I built myself (hat tip to ALK). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Landau Posted October 16, 2005 Share Posted October 16, 2005 DON'T buy Craig's amps, buy MY networks - mine! mine! mine! Or buy my equipment. It's waaaaayyyyy better than Craig's amps or Dean's networks.[] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joessportster Posted October 16, 2005 Share Posted October 16, 2005 hello craig i shot you an email, sorry i was remiss and hadnt sent you anything earlier, as im sure word of mouth is you best advertiseing. i cant say enough about how you went out of your way to help with my purchase, even buying up some old gear thanks alot Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st. patrick Posted October 16, 2005 Share Posted October 16, 2005 . . . . and just the other day I was thinking (yes, sometimes I engage the grey matter) to myself: "Self, ya know, kinda seems like the ol' K forum has been a bit boring as of late . .. " Thank the good Lord (redundant, I know) weez about to party again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan Songer Posted October 16, 2005 Share Posted October 16, 2005 I think we should do a poll. What do you think? Something like: "Do you think it is appropriate for Craig to use the Klipsch Forum for his shameless marketing program for NOS Valves?" Maybe that's too much of a "push poll" question! How about: "Do Craig's marketing posts for NOS Valves make you more or less likely to use his services?" I think that one is better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robster Posted October 16, 2005 Share Posted October 16, 2005 Craig is my HERO!! he answers his email. ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deang Posted October 16, 2005 Share Posted October 16, 2005 ROTFLOL! Hey, I'm getting ready to do my email -- doesn't that count? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOSValves Posted October 16, 2005 Author Share Posted October 16, 2005 I think we should do a poll. What do you think? Something like: "Do you think that Craig using the Klipsch Forum for his shamless marketing program for NOS Valves is appropriate?" No that is leading ! I think it should be simple. Do you mind Craig's post that reference to his business NOS Valves? Be my guest Allan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Landau Posted October 16, 2005 Share Posted October 16, 2005 All this mess because of 2 VRD owners, one ex-owner and one stubborn tech....heh. I love this place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan Songer Posted October 16, 2005 Share Posted October 16, 2005 I have NO PROBLEM with you stepping in to an existing thread and offering your services or even posting references from others to help sell your services! Really, I DON'T!! When someone says "I need help" you should be able to say "I will help you. Just ask XZY for a reference." That's not FISHING. But you shouldn't be STARTING any of these threads ("VRD Owners!" or "Look how well I rebuilt this C 22!") in my opinion. Maybe you don't see it, but there IS a difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOSValves Posted October 16, 2005 Author Share Posted October 16, 2005 Chicken afraid your pole will lose?? I could be wrong but I bet not. Allan really we have been over this before. If you don't like it tough. It is none of your business. Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOSValves Posted October 16, 2005 Author Share Posted October 16, 2005 All this mess because of 2 VRD owners, one ex-owner and one stubborn tech....heh. I love this place. What Ex-owner? Steve still has his as far as I know. Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anarchist Posted October 16, 2005 Share Posted October 16, 2005 While it would seem directly corresponding with one's customers via a mailing list would be far more efficient and appropriate, I don't think the better alternative makes the lesser alternative inappropriate and necessarily deserving of the insults and hostility. Why must we always have this same bitterness towards those members who have started a business because of their membership on the Klipsch forum when they mention it on the forum. Shameless advertising at times? Yes. So what? Craig, Dean, or anyone else should be able to mention their business whenever they want and corresponding with Klipsch members via the forum shouldn't be an issue - everyone knows it is less efficient particularly when dealing with Dean... If you want to take them to task because you feel they come off as pompous or arrogant, then attack them on those points. If you wish to mention you believe they owe their involvement in tubes to Kelly, then do so - but whining everytime you think they are 'advertising' is pointless. Craig, you do owe Allan one helluva thank you. His post, while disagreeing with your tactics, is the best testimonial you could have asked for as Dean alluded. PS. I don't think Craig has actually marketed his VRD's on this forum as effectively or efficiently as he could have. Frankly, he is generally quiet about drawing a distinction between them and Dynaco's nor does he really correlate the benefits of using his amps with Klipsch. Perhaps Allan could assist him with the marketing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOSValves Posted October 16, 2005 Author Share Posted October 16, 2005 Allan, Thanks for the kind words about my VRD amplifiers. Now Butt out[] Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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