PrestonTom

Congratulations to Roy and the folks at Klipsch ! The newest version of the Forte was listed as a finalist for both Stereophile's Speaker of the year and also as Editor's Choice for Component of the Year. In looking at the reviews and the competitors' prices, It might make sense for Klipsch to raise their prices to something astronomical. Congratulations to all .... -Tom https://www.stereophile.com/content/stereophiles-products-2021-component-year

This is progress, a tentative congratulations. I will say, these must have been beat up during the move or storage.

The same hunches are bing re-hashed. Important: this happened to both speakers not just one. Let's not get carried away by an improbable "coincidence" Important: The OP said the bass was lost to an extent "that they sounded like headphones". "Sounding like headphones" is a major (not minor) deficit. And with other speakers in the room "those sounded normal" Obviously two things would be helpful. ) First - an inspection of the wiring and a volt meter to check for a open circuit (crossover or blown woofer and by some weird coincidence it happened to both). Second - run some pure tones through the speaker (at least an octave or two below the crossover point). Those would be interesting results (and some have already mentioned these diagnostics).

What is perplexing is that both speakers are showing the problem. Well, at least no one has yet suggested that you need ---- 1) to use a tube amp, 2) to use a SS amp, 3) use vinyl, 4) put a few inches of foam along the south wall, 5) replace all crossover caps with $800 poly-metal-film-copper-etc caps. The last time something like this happened to me, I had modified something and intended to get back and finish it up. Instead I put the item in a closet and forgot I was in the middle of something and 2 years later I fired it up and it sounded like crap. I hope you have not fallen into my bad habits.

Just to be clear - Both speakers are showing the same symptoms? If so, is there a possibility the EQ was left in some "funny mode"?

Create a CD with test tones (sine waves) spaced every third octave (at least). If it is distorting, you will hear a "harshness". At what frequency does that occur? This will help narrow down whether it is a driver or a rattle in your cabinet. Determine the frequency, don't try and guess the frequency.

I am starting to regret that I asked the question about drop-shipping. So I feel obligated to share my experience. About 10 years ago I purchased the K-402 package (horn, driver and stand) from American Cinema Equipment. My understanding is that these were drop-shipped from Hope to my house. The packaging was carefully done and they arrived intact. It was clearly packaged at the factory and not by a third party. They were so well-packed that I can't imagine them ever being damaged in transit. However, I know this sometimes happens and I have to assume that someone would have to be an idiot when stacking them or using a fork lift. I certainly had no complaints.

Keywords: Practice first

This is going to be a fun project !

That is interesting. Their competitor, American Cinema Equipment, sold a ton of "underground Jubilees" over the last 15 years. In their case, the product was drop-shipped from Hope. Although they were a selling the Pro stuff and not Heritage/Home stuff.

I am curious about the logistics on these "new" Jubilees. Does the vendor get a "demo version" for their store and subsequent orders are drop-shipped from Hope to the buyer or are all Jubilees shipped from Hope to the vendor and then delivered to the buyer?

I am afraid you are trying to use logic. Some are believing in using magic. You will have problems if you try and take away the magic.

You have a PM

This is very sad news. I have the utmost respect for Gil, he is truly one of the good guys on the forum. I sincerely hope things take a turn for the better.

Those DSP units (depending on their configuration and whether they are working) are worth a small fortune.

This may explain why some of us, including me, were confused by the configuration of the bass bin. This was released by Klipsch (I assume) some months ago. For those of you just entering the morass, apparently this is NOT the configuration of the Jubilee bass bin that will soon be released. However it is still worth a look. -Tom

I see that I have already answered this question over a number of years (it is an old thread). The thoughts still count

With all due respect .... if the OP is suffering a medical issue, then talk to a medical expert. The Klipsch forum is not a substitute. Tinnitus can be a result of Noise exposure. There are ways of preventing further damage. If it is a symptom of an underlying disorder, then it should be treated. Any talk of whether a "speaker is the cause" is ridiculous. Treat this seriously and not as some audiophile nonsense.

Without a spec sheet I am only guessing so please correct me if I am wrong ...... It looks like the DSP unit does not provide for a digital input. I grew up in the early days of DSP, and it was drilled into our brains that you want to avoid an "extra" A to D conversion (CD to analog out to DSP analog in then to Digital for the DSP processing then back to analog for the amplifier). So are there only analog inputs on the DSP box (both balanced and unbalanced)?

Trey, Once again I am confused. This is a two-way system (woofer and tweeter). Why would it require tri-amping? What am I missing?

Mike, Thanks for your clear explanation. My confusion came from the sketchiness of some of the other descriptions and also from a "preliminary spec sheet" that was a floating around a couple of months ago. That spec sheet indicated a very different configuration. I guess the development of the bass bins has been an ongoing evolution and included some major last minute changes. I apologize if my direct statements ruffled any feathers.

Actually that picture shows "anti-mumps". Incidentally, the JBL horn and driver are very good (I have had both the K-402 and the JBL .....)

Maybe we should let Roy explain. Your picture may or may not be accurate and Corey's description was certainly not very good on the technical aspects. Why not let Roy explain what was actually done. Otherwise we will be knee-deep in conjecture

This is sad news. My deepest sympathy to Roger's family and friends.

Well this is the EPILOGUE. Yesterday the Jubilees went to a new and loving home. The transaction could not have been smoother. The buyer had not heard Jubilees before, but had distant memories of Klipschorns from his youth. The demo consisted of Tracy Chapman, Cowboy Junkies, Dave Brubeck, Natalie Merchant as I recall. The grin on his face was classic. For those of you fortunate enough to have Jubilees, remember back to your first experience - yes, it was that kind of grin! For those of you interested, the advertisement generated a good deal of activity. Location, transportation, size of the big beasts, and lack of cash were the prime deal breakers. I am confident that they will continue to bring pleasure to the listener in their new home. My girl friend stopped by with some freshly baked bread as a bit of a Bon Voyage gift (Sourdough with rosemary - it has been our pandemic hobby). I really think she wanted to see if I had a tear in my eye. After a glass of wine I waved good bye. During the time I have enjoyed this passion for big Klipsch speakers, I have met some truly great and wonderful folks. Yesterday was no exception. -Tom