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I bought a pair brand new awhile back and thought they were ok. I ended up replacing them with RB-75's and they blew the doors off the 81's, no comparison. I moved up from the 75's to a pair of RC-7 centers as my mains and feel they easily outperformed the 75's. The RC-7 center speakers have been sowing up for sale for fairly cheap lately, I'd try and find yourself a pair of those if you want to go with a bookshelf sized speaker.

Yes, this is the problem I was having when contemplating what to do with my new to me RF-3 II's. I paid $175 for a mint pair and was having a tough time talking myself into buying new drop in crossovers for $250 plus shipping. Having read through several different threads I decided to follow Deang's advice here and buy some new Dayton caps along with Mills resistors. Altogether parts cost me $40 shipped to my door and I paid a tech friend of mine to do the work for $50 so $90 total isn't bad. I'd like to comment that I've owned a few pairs of these speakers in the past and never really cared for them. After falling in love with my RF-5's though and realizing they are nearly identical (all the same drivers) as the RF-3's I wondered if it was possible to get similar performance out of them. I can say that this simple crossover change / update has brought them very close to the RF-5 quality that I really like so much. First impressions of the RF-3 stock was the bass really sucked, sounded misaligned? Tweeter lacked detail, sparkle and the sound stage seemed narrow and the overall sound was condensed / small sounding. I ended up flipping the speakers upside down which raised the horn up about 6 inches and really helped the sound of the horn although it still lacked detail. Bass output suffered though quite a bit as the ports are now about 6 feet off the ground. After the new crossovers were installed right away the bass seemed to be the biggest improvement even though nothing in the lower end of the crossover was changed? Very weird but certainly seems to be the case. Also the tweeter is very well defined now and accurate, sound is very much like my RC-7. Improvement was huge, these mediocre speakers are now competitive with the top quality Reference speakers in sound quality, highly recommend upgrading the crossovers, well worth the time and money.

The Quartets seem to be the best deal by far from what you describe, especially considering they already have the Crites updates which would cost you near the asking price alone. The Heresy II's would be my second choice out the three listed but the asking price is just too high in my opinion and you'd likely want to add a sub which would set you back even more. Of course if Chorus II's are in the realm of possibility I'd definitely go that route as they are (in my opinion) the ultimate Rock speaker.

I think everyone here is spot on as to pricing, $300 is probably fair in their current condition. They are great little speakers but understand about the Cornwalls, they are great too. Good luck with your sale!

I've never had the RT-12d but have had a couple of the RT-10d's, great little subwoofers. I thought the RT-10's were pretty comparable to the RSW-12 so I imagine the RT-12 would give the RSW-15 a good run for the money. If you need a sub why don't you just keep it? Can't imagine you'll do a lot better in a similar sized cabinet for the money. One thing to consider is the brand new Palladium subs are selling right now for $1950 shipped with warranty direct from Klipsch which should put a bit of a cap on your sale price considering its used, 10 years old? with no warranty. Still, I would think considering the performance and rarity of the RT-12 I'd think somewhere around the $1000 mark wouldn't be too far off. Nice system by the way and good luck with your sale!

They use the same tweeter and mid horn as the forte but the woofer is from the Heresy line. The Heresy II and forte I shared the same mid horn and driver. The T-5000 also used the same passive (although front firing) as the forte as well. All in all I'd say the T-5000 is somewhere in the middle of the Heresy II and the forte I, maybe a forte .75? I've owned all three speakers and to me the bass response of the T-5000 was better than the H-II's but lacking compared to the forte. Either way, great speakers, congrats on picking them up!

Last pair I had sold for $900. They were very near mint WO with Crites drop in crossovers and titanium tweeters. I believe I paid $500 for them then added the Crites stuff after I got them so all in all pretty much broke even on the pair, not bad considering I got to use them for about a year. I believe I've had about 5 or 6 pairs over the years, usual price paid was $500-$550 each pair. The most I've ever paid was $750 for a pair but they came with an older but pretty high end Denon Receiver which I was able to sell for $150. Really though I agree that the Chorus II is worth a lot more than I've been able to buy them for, especially if you compare them to the new Cornwall III or Heresy III costing thousands of dollars. In all honesty I'd take a pair of Crites modded Chorus II's any day over the new offerings. It would be interesting to compare a restored pair of Chorus II's to the new forte III's..

Horns can be a big pain in the arse! They are very sensitive to room acoustics, equipment matching, they are very directional and the high sensitivity of most horn systems really brings out the worst (and best) in recordings. I would say it is much easier to get things wrong when setting up a horn based system than a direct radiator designed system. Even when you get things absolutely correct and everything is bliss all it takes is one bad recording to make you question everything, it can be very frustrating at times.

Are you sure that's not an RC-3 center speaker? The horn screw hole positions look like the RC-3 not the 7. Those surrounds look like RS-3's as well but hard to tell. Nice set up, good luck with your sale!

They use the same woofers and have the same sensitivity rating, same horn design just slightly smaller in the RF-3's. The RC-3 may be the proper match but the 7 is a nice step up, either will work but the 7 is better.

I am currently running a RC-7 with a pair of RF-3 II's myself right now and they match up just fine. The RC-3 center is OK but seriously lacking compared to the 7.

I guess it would depend on what you're plans are for the speakers as to what advice to give here. Are you going to be keeping them long term? Are you just trying to get them working so you can sell them? If you plan on keeping them and have the money I'd say follow Moray's advice. If you're not confidant in your soldering skills you can pull your crossovers out and send them to Bob Crites for a re-cap ($135) and they'll be better than new. http://www.critesspeakers.com/

Hello, I'd suggest trying to find a RC-7 center speaker, one of the best ever made by Klipsch and a good match for what you have.

The connectors are spring loaded, you should be able to push down on it to insert the wire without removing the metal cup, I've done it myself several times over the last few days. The metal cup on my driver seems to wobble like it wants to come off and I've pulled on it quite a bit but it won't let go. From what I can see they are just siliconed in place but I don't think they were meant to be removed. Again, you should not have to remove it to plug the wires back in though.

I ran a RC-7 L C R for quite awhile and it sounded great. If you're near this deal I'd grab it quick before its gone..

Not mine but looks like a great deal Local only: Manor, TX, 78653 https://www.audiogon.com/listings/monitors-klipsch-rc-7-and-rs-7-surround-and-center-2017-03-20-speakers-78653-manor-tx

It seems anything Walnut in the KG line is fairly rare and the 5.5's are top of the heap so I don't think $500 is too far out of the ballpark as far as pricing. Have you written up a comparison between these two speakers? Maybe in a separate thread after the sale if you haven't? I'd be curious to hear about the differences between these two fine speakers. Anyway, good luck with your sale!

Have to be CF-4's, those woofers look larger than the 10's in the 5.5's.

I really don't think swapping Belles in place of the Chorus II's is going to help with your bass issue at all, in fact it would likely be a step in the wrong direction. Either they are not set up / powered properly or you could be battling the room itself, possibly a combination of both?

He has his TV room in a spare bedroom, I want to say 12x13?

A friend of mine uses the 2.2v for his center and 2.2's for rear surrounds with his 5.2's and in his smallish sized room it's a great combination. They're kind of a "mini" Academy and fairly decent. Do I think the other centers you mentioned are better? Yes. Are they an exact match for the 5.2's? No. Does it matter? I'll have to leave that for you to decide.

All I can add is that in all my years buying on eBay whenever I see a seller with a negative feedback for a deal gone wrong on a $10 item I think to myself why in the hell would anyone fight over and let things escalate to the point of receiving bad feedback for $10? Or $20? Too me a seller's reputation is everything and the next guy to click on one of your listings is not going to know the backstory or who was at fault or any details about the situation. What they will know is that you could not work things out on a $10 deal and what if things go bad with the purchase they're about to make?

Unfortunately if you care about your feedback rating "firing" the customer isn't an option. However, if you do send them a full refund and cancel the order through eBay it will stop his ability to leave you feedback. Stuff gets "lost" in the mail, that's why I always insist on signature requirements for everything I ship that way there is no question as to whether it was delivered or not. I sold a $60 remote to a guy about a year ago, it was being delivered to a mailbox store that accepts packages for people so I didn't add the signature requirement thinking they were professionals and I could trust them. Tracking number showed it was delivered, the business said they never received it. Luckily I had a few of the remotes so I just apologized to the customer and shipped out a new remote at my expense this time with a signature required, lesson learned.

I'd say $1500 if he throws in the sub

Congrats on the new Cornwalls! Sounds like they need a simple refresh and possible upgrade to get the best out of them. There are several threads already about updating old Cornwalls but I'd start with re-capping / upgrading or replacing the old crossovers with B-2's and replacing the mid driver / horn gaskets at the very minimum. As far as wiring the two sets of speakers together there are several reasons not to do it including the possibility of damaging your equipment so I'd be very cautious.