russ69 Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 Well, it's not a glowing review by Art Dudley. No mention of what equipment he used for the review. I can't say I agree, he says the treble was raspy and tiresome. I find the Heresy to be very neutral in my system so I'm not sure what he is hearing. I'll agree that the tweeter is perhaps the weak link, lacking air and extension (my words) but I can't say I hear the same things he is hearing. Anyway, life goes on... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators dtel Posted October 14, 2012 Moderators Share Posted October 14, 2012 One thing to remember is many speakers out there are much more laid back and polite, Myself I like the more live dynamic sound as long as it's not overly bright. I tend to not take very seriously what is reviewed except maby design flaws or obvious shortcomings. Mostly because even when they try not to price seems to change the opinion sometimes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derrickdj1 Posted October 14, 2012 Share Posted October 14, 2012 Reviewers and like movie critics, sometimes they are way off the mark. The review also depends on how many advertising dollars a company spends in regards to that magazine, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Islander Posted October 14, 2012 Share Posted October 14, 2012 Reviews by Art Dudley tend to be more like impressions than in-depth reviews. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seti Posted October 14, 2012 Share Posted October 14, 2012 The tractrix tweeter in the HIII is excellent. Perhaps if Klipsch had tripled the price there would have been more respect. Stereophile is vile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moray james Posted October 14, 2012 Share Posted October 14, 2012 Bingo. Best regards Moray James. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quiet_Hollow Posted October 14, 2012 Share Posted October 14, 2012 I guess that sums it up. Dudley and I are not on the same page. [8-)] I feel like Paul Klipsch in saying that in order to get the Heresy III to sound harsh, one has to intentionally make it sound that way. Bad source, bad gain, bad placement, using the volume to look for bass ...or any combination thereof, but certainly not the speaker's fault. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigerwoodKhorns Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 Sam Telling's article described the La Scala II's midrange and treble as exceptionally smooth. No fatigue with SS amps, no colorations, etc. Same tweeter, right? http://www.tubeaudio.be/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/30786_eprint.pdf Reviews really have little to no value. I can't even make my way through one anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moray james Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 SSDD: we are all subject to our personal bias when we listen Happens to all of us I include myself there too and I make a great effort to be aware of it. We see the very same thing here, take a Heresy ll and a Forte same horns with some minor differences in the networks even a Cornwall has a K700 and tangents with the same Heresy ll parts and look at the varried opinions that we see.Debates over how different the sound is between a Foorte ll and a Chorus ll exact same horns different woofer so much more alike than different. You have to know that the abuse any manufacturer takes is generally because they are making the competition nervous. Lets see where they are in 20 years from now. Hope that Iam still hanging around here then, I like the company. Best regards Moray James. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidF Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 Well, it's not a glowing review by Art Dudley. No mention of what equipment he used for the review. I can't say I agree, he says the treble was raspy and tiresome. I find the Heresy to be very neutral in my system so I'm not sure what he is hearing. I'll agree that the tweeter is perhaps the weak link, lacking air and extension (my words) but I can't say I hear the same things he is hearing. Anyway, life goes on... Raspy in the treble sounds more like the mid range driver. Some folks just don't like horn/compression driver sound and find ways to express their bias in what they hear. I have heard that for years about "horn sound" and take it as that- a bias. I have not read the article so I better wait before I say more about the review. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidF Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 Double post edit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RT FAN Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 Now I have to sell all of my Klipsch speakers. [] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbsl Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 Tone Audio mag has a review of the Heresy iii. Link is below download pdf file and go to page 152. I tried to cut and paste from the PDF file but it would not let me. http://www.tonepublications.com/magazine/issue-38/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neo33 Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 I have all models in the Heresy line. In my opinion, the Heresy I with Alnico tweeter sounded the best. With 15 pairs of Heresy (2 pairs of Heresy III, 3 pairs of Heresy II and 10 pairs of Heresy I) in the last 9 years, you'd think I would know? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallette Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 No mention of what equipment he used for the review. I can't say I agree, he says the treble was raspy and tiresome. Sounds like he was hearing what an accurate transducer does with a transistor amp. I was high on Dudley at Listener magazine and I think you'd have seen a different review there from him, but he sold out big time to high priced snake oil when he went to work for $tereophile. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigerwoodKhorns Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 I have all models in the Heresy line. In my opinion, the Heresy I with Alnico tweeter sounded the best. With 15 pairs of Heresy (2 pairs of Heresy III, 3 pairs of Heresy II and 10 pairs of Heresy I) in the last 9 years, you'd think I would know? Nah, your biased, 2/3rds of your Heresys being H1's. Now if you had equal amounts of each speaker we could defer to you. [] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Islander Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 When I upgraded one of my Heresy IIs to Heresy III spec with the Klipsch upgrade kit, the sound was improved in every way: stronger and deeper bass, clearer mids and highs, along with the 2dB sensitivity increase. I was using it as a front centre speaker, but it has been replaced with a Belle, and is now serving as the rear centre speaker. I plan to upgrade the rest of the Heresy IIs at some point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeFord Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 I don't know if its still true, but there used to be a difference of opinion on the distance a speaker should have flat frequency response at, 1M or listening positio, the latter having a much hotter top end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heritage_Head Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 The tractrix tweeter in the HIII is excellent. Perhaps if Klipsch had tripled the price there would have been more respect. Stereophile is vile. That is so true. If they cost 25k, had solid gold speaker terminals and a large advertising contract with that magazine they probably would have been the best speakers he’s heard in years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heritage_Head Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 I have all models in the Heresy line. In my opinion, the Heresy I with Alnico tweeter sounded the best. With 15 pairs of Heresy (2 pairs of Heresy III, 3 pairs of Heresy II and 10 pairs of Heresy I) in the last 9 years, you'd think I would know? What do you guys think of these? http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/dak/ele/3412727988.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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