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Which Music player do you use for digital ? and why ?


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ASIO:CAUSAudio ASIO driver

 

So you are using an ASIO driver... I don't have that installed anywhere anymore so I can't tell you much about that.  In my old setup I had to change the device output in the ASIO setup panel.   I now use WASAPI on a Server 2012 install.  I'd check to hear if you are getting ANY sound from the PC.  Look at the Sound settings in control panel (Manage audio devices, Playback tab) and verify your default device.  Listen to hear if you are getting any sound from any source (such as system sounds, youtube or media player).  If you can get sound that way go back to Foobar and try the driver to that same device.  DS should work but probably isn't the best sounding choice.  It is nice to verify that it works though.  Oh, and also be sure not to test with high resolution files to start in case you are having an issue with those settings or it is too high for the DAC.

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My humble opinion would be - it is a lot of money also.

However, in my current setup combo Receiver-HardDrive-Headphones sound a bit better to my ears than combo Turntable-Phono preamp-Klipsch RF42s. It is probably due to unegsisting room treatment and speaker placement that I cannot change. Better speakers would help.

Headphones (which is where I live), are more revealing and will allow you to hear more of the media, further into the recording. However they loose soundstage which will aid in killing the reality that you are there.....................my current setup

 

laptop using J-River with 30000 lossless files, centrance dacmini cx, Kenzie headphone amp, HiFiman HE500 headphones.  supremely revealing with great extension, thunderous in your head bass, I hear more detail than ever before.  And yet I miss the soundstage

 

I dont feel like headphones nor speakers are a replacement for the other, I believe they each have there strengths and for a balanced approach to music enjoyment (FOR ME) both are needed

 

 

 

I agree on everything you wrote. My Beyerdynamics reveal more details than speakers in my current setup. They also give better soundstage (wider, deeper, better instruments placement etc...).

 

I do not know exactly what RF42-II are capable of regarding the soundstage, but based on what I heard from people who know about speakers, I cannot expect miracles from 42s. Thus Beyerdynamics win in that respect.

Not ot enter into discusion headphones vs. speakers but just for argument sake, the situation regarding that would probably change with better speakers. For example, I auditioned speakers that a guy in neighbourhood designed and built himself. They were up-firing woofer design. The detail and soundstage on a pair of those was just unbelievably good. We are talking about 30.000$ worth speakers here. Only the speaker’s cable must have cost more than my entire system. That is why I mentioned price in my post.

My headphones are almost as accurate on amount of details presented via those speakers but the soundstage was a whole different story.

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Well first I go to Frostwire (because Limewire got shut down). Then I search for the song I want and have to filter out all the ones that have porn words added as they are usually viruses. To get the most audiophile quality I make sure to only download the 320 kbps. Make sure you also turn off the option for people to download from you because thats how the Feds come after you. Once I have them downloaded I then run a few free trial software virus scans as I probably picked up something anyway.

 

If for whatever reason you cant find it on Frostwire then you download free software that rips Youtube videos to your computer then you simply Youtube search the song and rip it, its important here to ONLY do 720 or 1080 p or the sound quality wont be good.

 

Then you put the music into an itunes folder so you can put it on your ipod. After that you simply plug the headphone jack into your iPod and your receiver and you are good to go...

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I admit that I am a complete idiot when it comes to computers - which is one of the reasons I have stuck with iTunes. I use channel D pure music software that somehow sits in top of iTunes. IMHO they work great together. I just over the past couple of days have used jriver because that is what works with the pono. Personally I found the jriver interface cumbersome and non intuitive. I almost tossed the pono player because of my frustration with jriver. Again I admit I'm a computer idiot. I wouldn't even know how to turn on a windows computer. i haven't ever worked on a dos computer but I think the people who like jriver must be masters.

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Joshnich-

My brother is a Mac user. He had to call Pono support to get JRiver to work so he could load files onto his Pono player. Pono support was very helpful.

What are your impressions of Pono, now that you didn't toss it?

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J-River can be cumbersome but what I found helpful was to set up the import process for manual import, and to play with it like that, (I tried J-River a year ago and threw it out) but Thad convinced me to try it again and a little patience went a long way

 

It still has some weird issues for me like, I backup my files on a second external Hard drive name the file the same and the drive has the same identifier letter yet river wont recognize it and cant find the files, and there forum is definitely geared more to the pc genius of which I am not, I just screw around till I get lucky :D

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Pono works great. Sounds terriffic. Since my main system uses a mac mini server with channel D software and a Benchmark DAC2  I do not have much use for it there. I will use it for traveling, and for the bedroom system and the system in my office. Its a nice portable HD music player. As you have said, compared to other similar devices it is pretty inexpensive. I already have a lot of HD music in FLAC and AIFF the pono handles all the files that I have tried. I also have some DSD albums. Dont know if the pono can play those. I havent tried.

I do not see the need to buy music off the pono store but I certainly would if the price is on par with other sources. I have used both HDTracks and Acoustic Sounds for my HD music so far.

 

Shu

In my setup itunes only acts as the storage platform. I do not use the itunes player. The Channel D software does the upsampling when needed and the playing of DSD and FLAC - again only using I tunes for storage. It is interesting that I can store DSD and Flac on itunes but the itunes player cannot play them. Channel D software works very well in concert with itunes. So no I will not forget itunes!

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running J-River for about 2 weeks now have 12000+ files converted to flac and set up in the library, I find it much easier than Itunes or WMP.....................Color me happy

 

Only issue I have is when you want to use a backup hard drive it seems you have too clear the old library and import the files off the backup which then sets up you library again, a bit clunky but it works :D

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I find renaming things tricky... still have not figured out how to do it, f6.

 

I have some old downloads that were not named correctly by iTunes and another company... they play great in jRiver, but they need to be renamed.

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