Guest Steven1963 Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 If your wi-fi is secured, they would still need your access codes to get in right? From what I gather, no. The codes become irrelevant for your 'friends.' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A1UC Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 no hurry to upgrade from win 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarheel Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Just reserved free "10". Now on "8". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Naseum Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 I mostly use application software on a PC. I don't have much interest in the os. Playing with os is a time sink I hate. My apps don't run any different with 8.1 or 8 or 7 or XP or 95. All that happens is the os makes me waste a lot of time changing, fixing, updating it. If you listen to microsofties they would have you believe the purpose of owing a PC is plying with the OS. Imagine if you bought a new hot car and had to change and play with the OS constantly instead of driving the car? Or constantly change os in your TV? Giant nuisance to me. The fact that OS needs so much attention is a judge of the poor quality of the design. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Matthews Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 I mostly use application software on a PC. I don't have much interest in the os. Playing with os is a time sink I hate. My apps don't run any different with 8.1 or 8 or 7 or XP or 95. All that happens is the os makes me waste a lot of time changing, fixing, updating it. If you listen to microsofties they would have you believe the purpose of owing a PC is plying with the OS. Imagine if you bought a new hot car and had to change and play with the OS constantly instead of driving the car? Or constantly change os in your TV? Giant nuisance to me. The fact that OS needs so much attention is a judge of the poor quality of the design. LOL! Your point is very, very valid to a limit. A new skin is like trading-in a perfectly good car toward the latest model. Some people just want to keep up with whatever is the latest. In addition, there are pretty cool features which come with the latest. Sometimes, bad calls are made as to some of the upgrades, and the public's review is mixed or even worse. But all in all, let's compare where we've come from. There are some very big steps. I am too old to sit and figure out everything which has changed from version to version, but I found out a few things about 8 (which I think are new to 8) which make me think Windows development just might be headed in the direction of inducing people to be "power users." One of those features was typing into the Metro menu to find an app. This was nice, as opposed to the old way of either (1) looking through 1,000 desktop icons, or (2) navigating a seemingly endless tree of apps, starting from the "Start" branch and winding up wherever you hope to go. I really like the quick boot-time. If you get into more technical, lower-level tools, your chances of having to re-start the system increase quite a bit. Re-booting Win 7 five times would be a small chunk of one's day. Not so with 8. 8 is fast! I just reserved 10. I used to not upgrade with the masses, but 8 got me interested again. I just reserved 10 for free. If it was for sale, I feel pretty sure I would not have rushed out to buy it. I really need to spend more time finding out the various features of the latest OS's as they come out. I don't even know what would be the best resource to use for that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallette Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 I think I mentioned that boot time from post to login was 8 seconds on a 5 year old machine with a fast SSD and 24gb RAM. That was worth it alone. The new browser...and it has NO IE code in it...is almost up with Chrome on HTML5 capability. For the vast majority of users it's fully compatible. While it's a claim to be proven, the new code base is said to be far more secure than IE and will require fewer patches. Another thing that remains to be proven is that this is the "last" Windows and will be only upgraded in the future by additions or improved code to the existing kernel. . Dave 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mighty Favog Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Jeff - I would usually go to our local Best Buy and play with a new machine for an hour and see what it'll do. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Matthews Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Jeff - I would usually go to our local Best Buy and play with a new machine for an hour and see what it'll do. What I meant was that I don't know what would be the best primer, in terms of brevity and information quality, to be a power user of the latest OS. I would be willing to spend a couple of days if there was stuff to learn that would make navigating the OS much faster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Matthews Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 (edited) The new browser...and it has NO IE code in it...is almost up with Chrome on HTML5 capability. From my experience, I don't consider Chrome to be a badge of honor in the browser segment. Maybe it inherently is, but when it comes to many of the better web-apps out there, it seems to me that they write them to work in the order of popularity/number of users. They make them compatible with IE, first. Then, they debug to make it work for the others. I have noticed this behavior on major websites, such as my bank and my cell provider, etc. The new response is, "If it doesn't work in Chrome, try IE." It mostly works there. Yet, I still browse in Chrome. Go figure. Edited August 4, 2015 by Jeff Matthews Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prerich Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 As to it going smooth, part of the reason mine go smooth is that having been with Windows since 3.15 for Workgroups I have learned and taught my family and staff NEVER keep files on a system partition. It's gonna die at some point. When I upgrade, it's always a clean install to get rid of a few years of detritus in the registry and other garbage in the attic. Yes, have to re-install software and settings, but I find it worth it. The moment it is stable, I clone the drive to a good working drive I don't need, label it, and put it away. If something goes wrong I can either shove it in and keep working, or clone back to the system drive. Costs a little time and you need a spare drive...though that drive needn't be top of the line...but it's saved me a LOT of hassles over the years. Regards, Dave Very similar procedure to what I do, except I put an image on a NAS or another external device. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Naseum Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 woke up today and my Samsung TV had a NEW OS that updated overnite - version 387.92X. well, ok. i went to use the remote and got confused. it looks like they changed the word "channel" to "entertainment opportunity" and in place of the time on the grid, they have the picture of a sundial. weirdly, they list isn't arranged by channel, or entertainment opportunity, but its sorted by most popular shows of my neightbors! the old "menu" is now called the "change selector." i couldn't find the volume because they changed it to "sonic air preswsure." all i wanted to do was watch jim cramer and have some coffee. in place of the name of shows, they had line drawings of the main character on the show. i finally played with the new OS enough to find the TV PROGRAM I was looking for and got it "loaded" to view. Dang! the program itself didn't look one bit different than it did yesterday on OS version 387.92J! then i woke up from the dream. it was a nightmare. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Matthews Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 lol. true Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prerich Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 If your wi-fi is secured, they would still need your access codes to get in right? From what I gather, no. The codes become irrelevant for your 'friends.' Here's the real skinny on this....You have to set up wi-fi sense and share it out. I would never do this!!!! "WiFi Sense is designed to make sharing and connecting to wireless networks easier among trusted contacts. Contacts like the family members and friends that you chat with on Skype and Facebook. Pick a network, share it out, and choose who has access to it, and they’ve got access whenever they drop by your place to hang out." You still have to actively pick a network, share it, and pick who has access to it (without a passcode). Sorry friends and family....you'll always have to deal with the hassle at my place, my WiFi is not a "hangout" spot!!!! My own son chose to remember my password, and I immediately changed it !!!! He's like - How come? I'm like, because I can, and it's my data!!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Chad Posted August 4, 2015 Administrators Share Posted August 4, 2015 That's what multi-network wifi routers are for. I have a public and a private wifi network at home. Family/friends can you my public (open) wifi if they want. Everything else is on our private network. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallette Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Comcast in our area has a hotspot that is wide open. It does not allow access to you personal network or PCs and they claim it uses none of your bandwidth. It has the generic name of "xfinity wifi" on any hotspot, so if someone is sitting on the street uploading porn it isn't you. Rarely have anyone who needs it, but I suppose it could be handy. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Matthews Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Comcast in our area has a hotspot that is wide open. It does not allow access to you personal network or PCs and they claim it uses none of your bandwidth. It has the generic name of "xfinity wifi" on any hotspot, so if someone is sitting on the street uploading porn it isn't you. Rarely have anyone who needs it, but I suppose it could be handy. Dave How so? Has your city contracted with them to provide it as a public service? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarryC Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 As a long-term Word Perfect user, I was much relieved when the Windows Compatibility Center said that WP12 is compatible with Windows 10. It's been very compatible with Windows 7, but I suppose that can't last forever. Corel left WP dead by the side of the road when it collapsed. https://www.microsoft.com/en-in/windows/compatibility/CompatCenter/ProductDetailsViewer?Type=Software&Name=Corel+WordPerfect+Office&ModelOrVersion=12&Vendor=Corel&Locale=1033%2C2057%2C3081%2C4105%2C16393&LastSearchTerm=wordperfect&BreadcrumbPath=wordperfect&TempOsid=Windows+10 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minermark Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 When you "Beta" testers get done in a year or so, the hundreds of fixes should be well under way. It will also get cheaper, and untill then i do not fix what aint broke. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luv_sum_Horns Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 I gave up on winders after getting 95 to do bit perfect output from my soundcard. Just too much crap to put up with. I never became vested in MS file formats which made it easy to move to Linux. All the software I need is readily available and applications actually work better with less fustration than the stuff I used to pay for. Linux used to be difficult to run, but nowadays it's about as hard as falling of a log. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJkizak Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Can't afford to upgrade to 10 as I have to purchase all new components. JJK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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