Mallette Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 How so? Has your city contracted with them to provide it as a public service? Can't see why they'd need to. They announced this a year or so ago and started replacing modems with those so equipped. May be some nefarious plot but I don't care as long as it costs me nothing in money, bandwidth, or privacy. Pretty sure I can shut it off, but have seen no reason to. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallette Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 When you "Beta" testers get done in a year or so, the hundreds of fixes should be well under way. It will also get cheaper, and untill then i do not fix what aint broke. I don't know, man. "Free" is pretty cheap. Dave 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallette Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Can't afford to upgrade to 10 as I have to purchase all new components. JJK You must have a real antique. One of my home machines is a 5 year old Dell T5500, and the other even older, a Dimension 9150. Both have no issues at all with it. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Matthews Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 How so? Has your city contracted with them to provide it as a public service? Can't see why they'd need to. They announced this a year or so ago and started replacing modems with those so equipped. May be some nefarious plot but I don't care as long as it costs me nothing in money, bandwidth, or privacy. Pretty sure I can shut it off, but have seen no reason to. Dave Why would AT&T broadcast wi-fi that is publicly accessible for free? I am just trying to see where the incentives are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joessportster Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Waiting till I hear how it interacts with Jriver from users of both, I am also a big believer in if it's not broke, don't fix it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The History Kid Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 (edited) Windows 10 should work with any Windows 8 or 7 program as it's built on the same interface and structure as 7 and Vista (the Vista Kernel). Every single industrial grade application that I typically use has been operating fine, that includes ArcGIS, GR:Earth, GRLevelX, Render Studio, and WinSCP. And actually, it plays nicer with the XDA-2 than Windows 8 did. I no longer get any drive disconnect error messages from the XDA with Windows 10. All of my music apps continue to function great too. Edited August 4, 2015 by IbizaFlame Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallette Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Why would AT&T broadcast wi-fi that is publicly accessible for free? I am just trying to see where the incentives are. I don't know anything about AT&T. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Matthews Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 What is a kernel and how does it work? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The History Kid Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 It's basically the core of the OS that everything is built around. From what I know, we're still in the sixth (Vista) Kernel in Windows (I.e...this is actually not Windows 10, it's Windows 6.4). Windows NT included 2000 and XP. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kernel_(operating_system) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JL Sargent Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 BUT, can I go directly from Windows 98 to 10? My 386 machine still going strong with original hard drive. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallette Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 (edited) What is a kernel and how does it work? While hardly perfect, the 'model, view, controller" concept is easiest to use to explain it. In this case, the kernel is the "model" and is sort of a switching center. You don't directly interact with it, but through a "controller." The controller translates what you do in a "view," which is what you see and interact with on screen. The kernel has many functions, but among them are dealing with memory requests, interrupt actions (which includes most hardware like drives, mouse, keyboard and such). You might consider it an engine. If you put an engine (model) on chassis and connect a drive train, brakes, steering, (controller) all controlled with pedals, steering wheel and dashboard, it's sort of the same thing. A kernel, like an engine, is a general purpose device. The controller and view make it into a specific purpose device. Dave Edited August 4, 2015 by Mallette 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Naseum Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Nice! I guess I wish the VIEW portion didn't change so much! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derrickdj1 Posted August 4, 2015 Author Share Posted August 4, 2015 Well, just an update, no Windows 10 for me. It has failed several times and keeps saying restart the computer. I think it is worth getting if you are running a Windows computer and you will eventually have to upgrade. I may call their tech suppot. This laptop is not that old and has 8.1 OS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babadono Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 How so? Has your city contracted with them to provide it as a public service? Can't see why they'd need to. They announced this a year or so ago and started replacing modems with those so equipped. May be some nefarious plot but I don't care as long as it costs me nothing in money, bandwidth, or privacy. Pretty sure I can shut it off, but have seen no reason to. Dave Why would AT&T broadcast wi-fi that is publicly accessible for free? I am just trying to see where the incentives are. to gather data on you and sell advertising Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJkizak Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Can't afford to upgrade to 10 as I have to purchase all new components. JJK You must have a real antique. One of my home machines is a 5 year old Dell T5500, and the other even older, a Dimension 9150. Both have no issues at all with it. Dave I forgot to mention I have to upgrade three of them, one multi-purpose, one back-up for that, and one movie editing computer. I had enough problems just upgrading to Win 7 Pro 32 and 64 bit. Video cards, printers, and some cards still have Vista drivers and that's the limit for these units. I am surprised the motherboards still function and all the memory is ddr2. The other problem is the Win 10 drivers for the older expensive apps. Let's see now there's two new 32 inch 4K monitors and?????? now pushing toward 10 grand just to go to Win 10. JJK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derrickdj1 Posted August 4, 2015 Author Share Posted August 4, 2015 Windows 10 finally is on the computer after 15 failed attemps. Conspiracy theroy to follow? So far, the new version of window looks and function great. A nice improvement over Vista, Windows 7 and Windows 8. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feezelbum Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 After some hesitation, I upgraded over the weekend. I typically do not jump on the latest OS with their history of stability issues upon release, but due to other ongoing problems with WIN7, I took a leap anyway. Minor video and audio driver issue that was quickly and easily corrected. Took a little over an hour from start to finish. Overall, quite satisfied so far, but I still need to get under the hood and make a few more tweaks, as times permits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallette Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Been through these threads on this forum since XP came out. There is no comparison in the overall positive response here to any of them. Mirrors my own experience, and like some others, this is the first time since before XP I upgraded before the first service pack. IMHO, 10 is better out of the block than the others at SP1. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WMcD Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 (edited) FWIW, I purchased a deeply discounted refurbished Win 8.1 HP laptop at Microcenter on Saturday. On start up it started downloading Win 10 and then got cranky. Eventually an error code led to the download of an app and then after a few more tries Win 10 is up and running. But every try had a "download 2.7 gigs. so let it run overnight, two or three times. I can see the problem MS had. Their keyboard interface like Win 7 was good but they couldn't get their touch screen versions adopted. So with Win 8 and 10 they force keyboard users to charms and tiles so that they will become adept at touch screen GUI. No matter that it is not suited to long time users of the keyboard GUI. There must be a gazillion man hours leaning traditional Windows and that is thrown under the bus. It's like saying that Elbonian users didn't appreciate us, and we'll solve that by having everyone learn Elbonian, like it or not, by gum.. Addition by Edit: And of course MS knows this will be met with resistance. So they have to give away the new GUI and OS for free. Smile, WMcD Edited August 5, 2015 by William F. Gil McDermott Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minermark Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 The quicker you use 10 the quicker they will fix the problems, so get on it sheep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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