jkull Posted November 17, 2016 Author Share Posted November 17, 2016 1 hour ago, ATLAudio said: "I have a soft spot for tube amplification in my long experience with guitar and bass amps, as in that world, there is no comparison, tubes take the cake in all ways." For the purposes of musical PROduction, tubes' inherent advantages, softer clipping at distortion simply sounds better than solid state comes into play in ways it should NEVER come into play with REproduction. Since so much electric guitar and bass production is done at distortion it's a very good idea to go with tubes; in production. It's also the ART that is being produced. A musician could prefer an amp with a hole kicked in it and now it sounds perfect! "First off, i have done a few tube/SS comparisons now." Were your comparisons ABX and level matched? Probably not, I haven't either, but you can read about those which are. Tube lose all the time. Google machine. "a low wattage tube amp matched to them should enable enjoyable-low level listening" As would a well made SS amp of either low or high power, and cost less, or even way much less. At a later day you could also take the high power SS amp and crank it up. I think I know where you're coming from, and this sounds like a rehashed argument which I mentioned before. Up until the 70s the amount of crossover distortion, especially at low wattage made SS sound inferior. This argument has gone the way of the first dinosaur. Well made SS don't suffer from this. It kills me that this argument won't die! It's like telling me I still need to buy leaded gasoline. "no combination of amp/pre amp/source/speaker etc, will do every genre the best." Disagree on all but speakers. Assuming everything is of well-made quality your speaker (selection and placement) should account for any audio taste variation. This is especially the case when you bring a well made, rock solid flat SS to the table which costs less, lasts longer, etc A few of you are suggesting the la scalas over the cornwalls. The Lascalas are fully horn loaded and provide the advantages you said. The Scalas will more likely demand the need for a sub, but some say it's fine without depending on room and placement. For me, I'll always have subs Its not a rehashed argument. I enjoy the insight and discussion! And I do take acknowledgement to your logical points indeed. I did not have two system running side by side with the same components in the chain, level matched, no. I have ran a tube amp in comparison to SS in the chain, in the same room. There are some tube amps that sound more like solid state, and some that sound more lush etc, often due to the shortcomings of their performance coloring the sound. Sometimes in a nice way, sometimes not. 1 hour ago, Ski Bum said: Well, that just depends. Tubes done right, or at least conforming to prevailing engineering norms, are remarkably indistinguishable from solid state power. Bob Cordell used to do these sort of comparisons at trade shows like RMAF. When level matched and unclipped, nobody could reliably pick tubes from ss! Of course, such tube amps are costly. And what's the point if it costs an arm and a leg and sounds the same? I think that's why many of us like the more "hair shirt" designs like SET, because they indeed do sound different, not to mention simpler, easier to build, and far less expensive. Quote I am leaning towards the Line Magnetic 219ia at this point. 24w per channel 845/300B combo SET. Steve Huff reviewed this amp and claimed it as the most impressive amp he has ever heard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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