Coytee Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 17 minutes ago, RSVRMAN said: If I were to do it again, I'd probably follow Coyotees advice on hooking up bass bins first to ensure everything is good. According to Roy-Boy.... it's Coyotee-o (minus o) Such a card.... I think he needs to keep his day job! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khornukopia Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 Accurate sound reproduction is the main thing, but those veneer faces sure do make all these Jubilees look good. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speed Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 8 minutes ago, Coytee said: do you have the PDF and TLX files for the DX? I got it from your link, but it was for the K-69. I have the K-691. Luci Lew is a girl, it's only a half mask... Does the amp run straight to the HF driver? The bass bin has connections for the top and bottom woofer, how does one amp connect to them ? Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coytee Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 5 minutes ago, Speed said: I got it from your link, but it was for the K-69. I have the K-691. Luci Lew is a girl, it's only a half mask... Does the amp run straight to the HF driver? The bass bin has connections for the top and bottom woofer, how does one amp connect to them ? Thanks. Is this a B&C driver? (I don't know much about it) Here's the PDF for the B&C 75. If it is closer to your driver, great....but, I don't have the TLX file so you're forced to go manual. DX-38 settings for Jubilee with K402 & BNC 75.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebse2a3 Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 13 minutes ago, Coytee said: Is this a B&C driver? (I don't know much about it) Here's the PDF for the B&C 75. If it is closer to your driver, great....but, I don't have the TLX file so you're forced to go manual. DX-38 settings for Jubilee with K402 & BNC 75.pdf Roy said the BNC 75 settings work for the K-691 If you use this tlx setup file I suggest you confirm the settings of the tlx file since I wasn't the originator and I can't confirm it at the moment since I don't have race installed on this computer.... miketn RACE Jubilee with K402 & BNC 75.tlx 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Travis In Austin Posted April 15, 2017 Moderators Share Posted April 15, 2017 1 minute ago, mikebse2a3 said: Roy said the BNC 75 settings work for the K-691 RACE Jubilee with K402 & BNC 75.tlx And Roy has checked and approved those settings for the 691. Travis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speed Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 10 minutes ago, Coytee said: Is this a B&C driver? (I don't know much about it) Here's the PDF for the B&C 75. If it is closer to your driver, great....but, I don't have the TLX file so you're forced to go manual. DX-38 settings for Jubilee with K402 & BNC 75.pdf Manual it is... I still have windows vista, it's not compatible with anything anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Travis In Austin Posted April 15, 2017 Moderators Share Posted April 15, 2017 18 minutes ago, Speed said: I got it from your link, but it was for the K-69. I have the K-691. Luci Lew is a girl, it's only a half mask... Does the amp run straight to the HF driver? The bass bin has connections for the top and bottom woofer, how does one amp connect to them ? Thanks. The two LF sections on the Bass bin come bridged from the factory (connected together in the proper way) you hook up the connection to either one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speed Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 3 minutes ago, dwilawyer said: The two LF sections on the Bass bin come bridged from the factory (connected together in the proper way) you hook up the connection to either one. Thanks, surprised there are no basic instructions for wiring included. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebse2a3 Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 1 minute ago, Speed said: Thanks, surprised there are no basic instructions for wiring included. Can you post a picture of the new style input terminal...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Travis In Austin Posted April 15, 2017 Moderators Share Posted April 15, 2017 9 minutes ago, Speed said: Manual it is... I still have windows vista, it's not compatible with anything anymore. It will be compatible with Race software. I think Coyotee is the only one I know that suggests you use manual entry. The majority of people who tried manual missed a setting or two. It can take hours. If it were me I would get the right RS 232 cable to plug in computer. Go ahead and download Race from EV website and see if it work on your laptop. I would hook up your current amp and preamp to the Bass bin unless you have a LOT of experience listening to music through a bass bin only. It is going to sound like total crap and you are going to think something is wrong. You won't be able to wrap your mind around the fact that when the 402 comes in with the MF/HF the combination makes perfect sound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Travis In Austin Posted April 15, 2017 Moderators Share Posted April 15, 2017 2 minutes ago, mikebse2a3 said: Can you post a picture of the new style input terminal...? Speed @mikebse2a3 can tell you everything technical you need to know. He wrote the original Fact Sheets on Jubilees with @Chief bonehead input and apprival. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris A Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 8 minutes ago, dwilawyer said: I think Coyotee is the only one I know that suggests you use manual entry. The majority of people who tried manual missed a setting or two. It can take hours. It takes me about 10-15 minutes to enter the one-page of settings into a Dx38 front panel. If you're unaccustomed to the interface, it might take you as long as 45 minutes if you're really technically challenged. I also think that anyone that's tried to install use use RACE using an RS-232 port on their PC isn't counting this time. I wouldn't mess with that old RACE app unless you're motivated to use it and have a ready RS-232 data port. (I don't own any PCs/laptops with an RS-232 data port.) I actually recommend front-panel input since you don't need anything else, and can update the crossover on the fly without having to hook up anything at any time. I've found this capability useful. YMMV. Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speed Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 20 minutes ago, mikebse2a3 said: Roy said the BNC 75 settings work for the K-691 RACE Jubilee with K402 & BNC 75.tlx Thank you, i will try to do it with my computer is windows vista will let me. I downloaded the tlx, what program can I use to open it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwc Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 Did the new K402 come with the mumps? We need a picture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris A Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 I believe that the settings for the "BNC" driver (actually a B&C DE75 compression driver) aren't quite up to date for the current K-691 driver. There are a couple of PEQs that need modification. YMMV. Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Travis In Austin Posted April 15, 2017 Moderators Share Posted April 15, 2017 5 minutes ago, Chris A said: It takes me about 10-15 minutes to enter the one-page of settings into a Dx38 front panel. If you're unaccustomed to the interface, it might take you as long as 45 minutes if you're really technically challenged. I also think that anyone that's tried to install use use RACE using an RS-232 port on their PC isn't counting this time. I wouldn't mess with that old RACE app unless you're motivated to use it and have a ready RS-232 data port. (I don't own any PCs/laptops with an RS-232 data port.) I actually recommend front-panel input since you don't need anything else, and can update the crossover on the fly without having to hook up anything at any time. I've found this capability useful. YMMV. Chris Well that's two. That's a good point about the RS 232 data port, but you don't get an RS 232 to RS 232, you get a RS 232 to USB, there are 7 bucks. It will take a new user about an hour to manually input one set of settings. It took me five minutes enter the bass boost preset once that was available from Roy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speed Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 5 minutes ago, jwc said: Did the new K402 come with the mumps? We need a picture. I don't think so, they look really smooth... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris A Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 I believe that there are more than a few more than just myself and Richard that use the front panel inputs on a Dx38...not that it really matters... Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwc Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 Shucks.....figured it was out by now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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