MicroMara Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 I´m wondering how a simple question and cable project can cause such a rebellion LOL 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybob Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 5 minutes ago, MicroMara said: I´m wondering how a simple question and cable project can cause such a rebbelion LOL It's the little things that add up... Of a sudden...🤫 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClaudeJ1 Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 21 hours ago, Marvel said: It's 22 gauge... and you can just add on to one end. Are the wires on the satellites detachable? If not, splice on some more... the electrons won't care. But, do your wires like my pic. That way, even if tape comes off, they won't short together. The wire should have a stripe or marking on one side, so you can get the polarity correct. Great advice as a general splicing practice. Most times, simplicity wins! I really like the offset thing you propose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClaudeJ1 Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 38 minutes ago, MicroMara said: I´m wondering how a simple question and cable project can cause such a rebellion LOL No kidding. So let's not even start talking about Mundorf Capacitors and the like. LOL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MicroMara Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 15 minutes ago, ClaudeJ1 said: No kidding. So let's not even start talking about Mundorf Capacitors and the like. LOL. that´s too simple Sir ! @LarryC said ... While you're at it, try sticking a Dragonfly into the circuitry if there's a USB port to take it. You don't have to do any more than that -- no extra DAC'e, added amp connections or whatever. The Dragonfly seems to substitute some superior DAC circuitry into the works, without extra hooking up, and it sounds clearer, more musical to me the places I've tried it. --Larry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OO1 Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 13 hours ago, wstrickland1 said: Balls! @M4verick 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OO1 Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 1 hour ago, billybob said: It's the little things that add up... Of a sudden...🤫 cool thread , it was boring as hell 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pondoro Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 What irony! This morning I was messing around behind our TV and a crimp-connector came loose, I had to redo it. It connected an aftermarket amp to a Denon subwoofer that I had repaired (amp had died, speakers were OK.) I should have soldered! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MicroMara Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 19 minutes ago, Pondoro said: What irony! This morning I was messing around behind our TV and a crimp-connector came loose, I had to redo it. It connected an aftermarket amp to a Denon subwoofer that I had repaired (amp had died, speakers were OK.) I should have soldered! If insufficient force is applied during crimping, or if the wrong crimping tool is used, the wires will be crimped insufficiently or incorrectly. As a result of faulty contacting, the contact resistance between the wire and the ferrule increases due to corrosion on the individual strands. There is also the risk that an incompletely crimped wire can be pulled out of the crimp barrel. Likewise, the crimp connection must not be compressed too much. If the compression is too strong or the crimping tool is too small, the cross sections of solid and fine-stranded wires can be reduced inadmissibly. Furthermore, if the pressing force is exceeded extremely, there is a risk that individual conductors may be sheared off in the case of fine-stranded wires. As a result, the current-carrying capacity of the connection decreases inadmissibly due to the reduced cross-section. In addition, the sleeve of the crimp connector can become unusable due to cracks or breakage. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClaudeJ1 Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 1 minute ago, MicroMara said: If insufficient force is applied during crimping, or if the wrong crimping tool is used, the wires will be crimped insufficiently or incorrectly. As a result of faulty contacting, the contact resistance between the wire and the ferrule increases due to corrosion on the individual strands. There is also the risk that an incompletely crimped wire can be pulled out of the crimp barrel. Likewise, the crimp connection must not be compressed too much. If the compression is too strong or the crimping tool is too small, the cross sections of solid and fine-stranded wires can be reduced inadmissibly. Furthermore, if the pressing force is exceeded extremely, there is a risk that individual conductors may be sheared off in the case of fine-stranded wires. As a result, the current-carrying capacity of the connection decreases inadmissibly due to the reduced cross-section. In addition, the sleeve of the crimp connector can become unusable due to cracks or breakage. One word: SOLDER 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybob Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 Crimper... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Islander Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 15 hours ago, M4verick said: Sorry, but your blabbering about dog training and recommendation against splicing cables ( despite your complete ignorance about the speakers I bought) classify you as a class 1 know-it-all ignoramus. M4verick, you’ve just joined a group of audio fans who have been here for some time, more than a decade in many cases. We know each other, and in most cases, respect each other. When someone makes a helpful suggestion that turns out not to apply to your computer speakers, it’s a simple mistake. Many of us are unfamiliar with Klipsch computer speakers, because we have the more typical home audio models. I’m sure you will make your share of mistakes or false assumptions yourself, if you decide to hang around here. Insulting someone you don’t know, in a group that you have just joined, says a lot about you, and it’s not good. Let’s call your offensive response your first mistake, and move on with no hard feelings. Being in the Forum is a learning experience, so let’s learn from this, okay? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybob Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 Don't bite the hand that feeds you... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MicroMara Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 37 minutes ago, ClaudeJ1 said: One word: SOLDER In europe, yes is dependent on the V D E standards of electrical engineering. Power cables and plugs are not allowed to be soldered , must be crimped. Cinch cables with plugs must be soldered, for loudspeaker cables both can be used. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimjimbo Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 5 hours ago, MicroMara said: I´m wondering how a simple question and cable project can cause such a rebellion LOL I was wondering the same thing myself. Lighthearted banter gets turned into accusations of vitriol. BFD 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave A Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 5 hours ago, MicroMara said: I´m wondering how a simple question and cable project can cause such a rebellion LOL It is a cosmic rule of audio. Wires and capacitors can't be discussed without diving into all kinds of opinions. Some real and some amusing and some are audiophool. It is up to the reader to determine which he will believe. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Islander Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 M4verick, one more thing: to find the most discussions about ProMedia systems, the place to look is the Personal Music Systems section. There you’ll find lots of fellow ProMedia fans who are very familiar with what you have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richieb Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 22 minutes ago, jimjimbo said: I was wondering the same thing myself. Lighthearted banter gets turned into accusations of vitriol. BFD 16 minutes ago, Dave A said: It is a cosmic rule of audio. Wires and capacitors can't be discussed without diving into all kinds of opinions. Some real and some amusing and some are audiophool. It is up to the reader to determine which he will believe. Start this type of a lighthearted, simple thread question about oil in an automobile, motorcycle or oil forum (yes, they have those too) and watch the sparks fly. It won’t be long before every petroleum chemist or engine builder tells someone they are full of shite. Let alone someone who has drilled for crude in the Middle East. It’s the way of the keyboard world — 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wstrickland1 Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 2 hours ago, billybob said: Crimper... . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Islander Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 We call those Marr wire nuts in Canada, and the little ones are called Marrettes. Very popular with electricians. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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