sunnysal Posted August 29, 2004 Share Posted August 29, 2004 John Atkinson just wrote me to confirm he WOULD like to reivew the latest Klipschorn in Stereophile but that so far Klipsch has been unwilling to provide a pair for review. I could not believe it...Let's make some noise here guys to encourage Klipsch to send a pair a.s.a.p. to John for review... I, for one, would love to see a set of measurments for the k-horns and a full blown review, I say let the speakers get the coverage they deserve! Maybe Klipsch can make a deal, offer the k-horns if stereophile agrees to review another speaker from the klipsch lineup within a reaosnable period of time. (an RF-7? some new model). Come on guys voice your opinion, do we want to see a klipschorn review or not? regards, tony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdm56 Posted August 29, 2004 Share Posted August 29, 2004 The last American review I know of was the one in Audio magazine in 1986. It's time for a new look. So, let's "get 'er done!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwinr Posted August 29, 2004 Share Posted August 29, 2004 I don't think unwilling is the correct answer. I'd say it has more to do with the fact that Klipsch only make the Klipschorn to special order. It would also depend though, on the type of review proposed. Perhaps the proposed review is inconsistent with the status of the Klipschorn as a modern legend. Just a possibility, I guess. It would be nice though for Klipsch to make a Klipschorn available for a sensible review. Stereophile is an influential magazine and the flow on effects of such a review may reflect positively on other products in the Klipsch lineup. Perhaps Trey would care to comment? Incidently, the last American review was conducted by Constantine Soo in 3 August 2001 in StereoTimes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dale W Posted August 29, 2004 Share Posted August 29, 2004 Tony: Exciting and scary both at the same time , the review could go good or completly sideways. We all know what a tempramental beast the khorn can be , she's a lover of good quality components but she'll show faults quickly if presented. Secondly comes the setup ( corner sealing ) and a decent room in order to really bring home the true bass she's able to reproduce . I've listened to 20 pairs of khorns over the years all at different dealers with different rooms and setups , some sounded great and others would have turned me off forever if i had'nt already owned a pair. Reviews should be taken with a grain of salt , good or bad . Hopefully this goes good if it happens at all . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebse2a3 Posted August 29, 2004 Share Posted August 29, 2004 Do I want to see a review? IT DEPENDS I remember reading in some of PWK's papers that because of the incompetent ways some reviewers had shown he wasn't interested in having the speakers reviewed this way. I'd guess PWK's "Yellow Buttons" got used alot for the ways of some of these magazines/reviewers. I wonder how the review in Audio by Richard Heyser came about. "Maybe" it was that Mr. Heyser had shown that he could and would do a high quality review and properly install the KHORN.It would be interesting to know the background for this review. Anyway I would love to see a good review of the KHORN so that alot more audiophiles could see that the path PWK set us on in 1945 is still just as true today and like no other speaker it has definitly stood the test of time! But the real way for people to learn about the KHorn is to be exposed to the musical reproduction it is capable of and they will be hooked like all of us!!! What I wouldn't want to see is a review where the reviewer didn't take the time or steps to properly setup the KHorn which seems to happen in some of these so called reviews we see like on the internet. "This happens alot and not just to the KHorns" yet some people will read these reviews and think they know the product. If a magazine/reviewer can't properly accommodate the KHorns setup/needs then I would have no interest in the review because it would be useless. One other thought! Where where these magazines when PWK passed away? I was so disappointed and think they should be ashamed that they didn't cover this true pioneer's work and legacy!!! mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAPTORMAN Posted August 30, 2004 Share Posted August 30, 2004 Regardless of what comes out on the review-if they would give it one. My mind is already set. What I hear is what counts So my Khorns stays with me till death. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hightone Posted August 30, 2004 Share Posted August 30, 2004 Art D's living room is of good size for k-horns. I am not sure about corners though. I would love to see a review. I have seen the Klipsch name in sterophile a lot more often in a positive way. Whats to worry about? They don't give BAD reviews any way. Klipsch makes very little money in sales of K-horns so its low risk right? If anything Sterophile will get flooded with mail if they give a luke warm review. They may be holding out for the klipsch Premier line . I do not have the corners for K-horns and am just waiting for them to come out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djk Posted August 30, 2004 Share Posted August 30, 2004 The last time Stereophile reviewed the Klipschorn, Klipsch really howled about the review. Stereophile did not like the Klipschorn driven with a tube amp, they did however think it was OK driven by a Crown D150A. I don't think it would be in the best interest of Klipsch to see another review. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formica Posted August 30, 2004 Share Posted August 30, 2004 I'm not familiar with John Atkinson's writings... but I am not a big fan of Stereophile reviews. Although influential to some, I don't feel a Stereophile review would prove much whether it were positive or negative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ctiger2 Posted August 30, 2004 Share Posted August 30, 2004 Stereophile sucks. Please don't send them a pair of horns. Klipsch has been making the Klipschorn with very minimal changes since the 40's. It's hard to improve on near perfection... There's your review. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjones Posted August 30, 2004 Share Posted August 30, 2004 I have it from a very reliable source that for Stereophile Magazine to review your product you not only have to send them the unit for review but also pay a hefty fee. That makes me wonder just how objective their reviews really are. As much as I'd love to see Klipsch products reviewed in such a major publication stay away from Stereophile Magazine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artto Posted August 30, 2004 Share Posted August 30, 2004 We should consider ourselves fortunate. Neither Stereophile, nor John Atkinson, IMO, are qualified, nor have the proper facilities to perform a proper review of the Klipschorn. Stereophiles listening rooms/listening conditions are acoustically substandard in general, and certainly not adequate to evaluate a speaker such as the Klipschorn specifically. Not to mention that John Atkinson (nor anyone at Stereophile) is not technically competent to perform an objective analysis of this speaker system from a technical standpoint. If you want a REAL, and thorough technical review of the Klipschorn I suggest taking a look at Richard Heysers review in Audio Magazine, November, 1986 (reprinted in Best of Audio Volume IV, November 1989) which I supplied with the Klipsch Audio Papers (available at soundwise.org in PDF format). John Atkinson is not in the same technical league as Richard Heyser. And quite frankly, the facilities at Stereophile are not in the same league as my own listening room. I would even be willing to let Stereophile review the Klipschorn from my room if they want to. But you know it will never happen, because they would have to eat 30+ years of dissing words about the Klipschorn. And they would have to expound praise on a speaker and its company that is not a supporting advertiser. And will probably never be (and never has been as far as I know). And besides all that, do you really want the Klipschorn to be lumped in with all their other porno-priced equipment of the month crap? I sure dont. I guarantee you, these guys wont be eating their own words, which is really what we all want to see. As far as Im concerned, the customer demand that kept the speaker, essentially unchanged, in production for more than half a century is the best review ("opinion") one can get. What do we need Stereophiles blessing for? Theyre just a bunch of deaf schmucks over there anyway. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artto Posted August 30, 2004 Share Posted August 30, 2004 ---------------- On 8/29/2004 10:37:07 PM edwinr wrote: Incidently, the last American review was conducted by Constantine Soo in 3 August 2001 in StereoTimes. ---------------- I've read and responded to this review. It is completely inane. Constantine Soo is a complete idiot! (I've written to him and told him so). In fact, this is one of the most lame and incompetent reviews of the Klipschorn I've ever seen. And its a great example of why Stereophile shouldn't bother with a review of the Klipschorn either. Something similar will most likely happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfogg Posted August 30, 2004 Share Posted August 30, 2004 "Klipsch makes very little money in sales of K-horns so its low risk right? " I'd think it is just the opposite... high risk... low reward. Like you said Klipsch sells very little K'Horns. So even with a glowing review they probably won't make many additional sales off the review. And even if they did I wonder how much they would really want the sales? Do they make more on a pair of K'Horns then if they instead spent that time making X number of RF-7s (or whatever) for example? However, if for whatever reason they ended up getting a bad review Klipsch wouldn't loose much in the way of sales on the K'Horn. Those that were going to buy them probably still would, those that wouldn't.. wouldn't. But if the review was basically repeating the stereotype of 'All horns suck....' that could easily effect the sales of the rest of the Klipsch line where they do make their money. After all if their flagship isn't any good how can the lower priced models be decent? Shawn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parrot Posted August 30, 2004 Share Posted August 30, 2004 I'd want a review only if I respected the magazine, which I do not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seti Posted August 30, 2004 Share Posted August 30, 2004 Ah Hell make them got to Hope, AR to audition the system. Do they still have that room PWK built? Let them compare the system with different tube gear from pp to set maybe even PWK's favorite tube the 2a3. I like looking at the audiophile mags the same way I like looking at autophile mags while I'll never afford the new v10 porsche it sure is pretty to look at. I would like to see an audiophile mag that actually reviews equipment not priced in the stratosphere. Thank god for online forums like this and audioasylum etc.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radiob Posted August 30, 2004 Share Posted August 30, 2004 I think they should be reveiwed. Most high end speakers are. If they are perfection, then the reveiw will show it. It is 2004, and a lot of high end speakers have been built and then reveiwed by magazines, Fair is Fair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Audio Flynn Posted August 30, 2004 Share Posted August 30, 2004 Although i have never been there; I think the offer of Artto's room would be the best situation. If the review is done under the Stereophile conditions it most likely would be almost excelusively solid state amplification; unless Art Dudley would be the primary reviewer. Perhaps little for Klipsch to gain by this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steamer Posted August 30, 2004 Share Posted August 30, 2004 ---------------- On 8/30/2004 6:27:55 AM Ctiger2 wrote: Stereophile sucks. Ditto,canceled my subsciption and sold most of the gear that they recommended.I read too many times that horns are colored!I went back to my roots-LaScala's. The only way I would like to see a review is if a competent Klipsch rep.set them up. Greg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j-malotky Posted August 30, 2004 Share Posted August 30, 2004 The so called "Audiophile" community is just too biased, even if it would get a good review it would not help Klipsch that much in the big picture. The bios is the main reason I do not read Audio trade rags anymore. I think Klipsch needs to get more Khorns out in there dealerships so poeple can hear them for themselves. That is how i was sold on owning Khorns, and why I saved my pennies for a decade to afford a pair. JM 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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